whut do you think convicts deserve (this one pissed me off)

[Tooper]

ok i was watching the john walsh show and it had the familys of convicts and people who have had their family killed from these convicts and the convicts were on death row.

this pissed me off the family of those that had sumone killed did'nt think that convicts deserved a -candy bar or soda- and this bitch had the nerve to talk shit to the family of the killer saying that she had no compasion for them.

now whut pissed me off is she is talking shit to the mother and sister of the killer.

if it was her son (killer) i can accept that.

but the family was like we understand your loss but we suffer too.
which is in all reality true.no one raises there kid to become a killer.she said we are all losers here we lost our son (the killer) and the other family lossed their family member to death.

that hit close to home for me cause people make mistakes in life but the family don't raise anybody to be a killer or prisoner.so to talk shit to the family fucked me up.

everybody was clapping and only listening to the lady that had her husband killed.and she was saying she had no compasion for the family of the killer.

the lady even was working on not having prisoners eat a candy bar or soda and that was her main view that prisoners don't deserve that and at the same time talking shit to the family.

while everyone was clapping all i seen were bitter and angry people clapping for suffering and ignorance.

why should'nt a prisoner get to buy a candy bar or soda?

why do people get to decide and play a part in getting sumone on death row have a voice to say wether they die or not.that makes you a killer too.

i don't believe in the death penalty but in sum instances i find myself gratified that sumone is put to death but in general i don't believe in it.

but thats just my opinion.

my main beef is thinking the family of those convicts don't suffer too.cause everybody is hurt by whut a convict has done the family of those who have been hurt by that convict AND the family who loses their family member to prison.

it is'nt one sided...

 

[Cameron]

Nice post!

 

[TRAGIC LOSSES]

1.this pissed me off the family of those that had sumone killed did'nt think that convicts deserved a -candy bar or soda- and this bitch had the nerve to talk shit to the family of the killer saying that she had no compasion for them.




2.everybody was clapping and only listening to the lady that had her husband killed.and she was saying she had no compasion for the family of the killer.



3.why should'nt a prisoner get to buy a candy bar or soda?

4.why do people get to decide and play a part in getting sumone on death row have a voice to say wether they die or not.that makes you a killer too.



5.my main beef is thinking the family of those convicts don't suffer too.cause everybody is hurt by whut a convict has done the family of those who have been hurt by that convict AND the family who loses their family member to prison.

it is'nt one sided...

OK,MY RESPONCES.....

1.THEY DON'T DESERVE A CANDY BAR OR SODA......THEY ARE KILLERS....NOWHERE IN THE LAWBOOKS DOES IT SAY THAT KILLERS ARE ENTITLED TO SUCH "LUXURIES"AS SNACKS AND DRINKS..........IF IT WAS UP TO ME,THEY WOULD HAVE BREAD AND WATER ONLY......

2.I HAVE NO COMPASSION FOR THE FAMILIES OF KILLERS EITHER....MAYBE IF THEY HAD RAISED HIM BETTER......ANYWAY,THEIR PAIN IS DIFFERENT FROM THE VICTIMS FAMILY.....AT LEAST THE KILLERS FAM CAN GO VISIT,THE VICTIMS FAM DOESNT GET SHIT BUT HEARTACHE......

3.WHY SHOULD THEY GET THESE PRIVILEDGES?YOU TELL ME......DO THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE THESE THINGS????

4.NO IT DOESN'T.....THEY COMMITED THE CRIME....THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES......ITS A PART OF LIFE TO DEAL WITH THINGS YOU HAVE DONE.....DONT CRY WHEN THE EFFECTS CATCH UP TO YOU.

5.SEE #2

 

[Tooper]

well they do get to have candy and soda so i don't understand whut your talking about.

bread and water.this is'nt the 1800's...

and no nobody is raised to become a killer or prisoner unless your sum racists bred into hate.

 

[Cameron]

Re: Re: whut do you think convicts deserve (this one pissed me off)

OK,MY RESPONCES.....

1.THEY DON'T DESERVE A CANDY BAR OR SODA......THEY ARE KILLERS....NOWHERE IN THE LAWBOOKS DOES IT SAY THAT KILLERS ARE ENTITLED TO SUCH "LUXURIES"AS SNACKS AND DRINKS..........IF IT WAS UP TO ME,THEY WOULD HAVE BREAD AND WATER ONLY......

2.I HAVE NO COMPASSION FOR THE FAMILIES OF KILLERS EITHER....MAYBE IF THEY HAD RAISED HIM BETTER......ANYWAY,THEIR PAIN IS DIFFERENT FROM THE VICTIMS FAMILY.....AT LEAST THE KILLERS FAM CAN GO VISIT,THE VICTIMS FAM DOESNT GET SHIT BUT HEARTACHE......

3.WHY SHOULD THEY GET THESE PRIVILEDGES?YOU TELL ME......DO THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE THESE THINGS????

4.NO IT DOESN'T.....THEY COMMITED THE CRIME....THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES......ITS A PART OF LIFE TO DEAL WITH THINGS YOU HAVE DONE.....DONT CRY WHEN THE EFFECTS CATCH UP TO YOU.

5.SEE #2

what about the families of these people? Do they deserve to get looked down upon?

 

[Tooper]

forgive me i don't hang with sqeeky clean sqaures.nore do i accept that point of view

exactly from tragic losses point of view our suffering is accepted as crying?

explain to me then why this lady is going out of her way "CRYING" that prisoners should'nt be able to get candy and soda?

come on that's gay!

 

[Blight]

As long as your alive you should be treated fair. Even if you kiled someone. WHAT IF IT WAS AN ACCIDENT? Or a real case of temporary insanity. Or the person lost their common sense in a fight? THEY COULD BE A GOOD PERSON STILL.

 

[Cameron]

^^Exactly. Nobody has the right to kill. So don't do wrong for a wrong.

 

[P-Nut]

Both families lost someone, yet the family of the killed lost the. The family of the killer lost their blood as well, yet they still had the chance to say goodbye. They're both victims, so I wouldnt say I sympathize with the family of. Yet, noone convicted or not should be stripped of their rights as a human being. And if you're on deathrow, hell you're sentenced to die, you could least be treated as a human being in your last days. Some prisoners are allowed to drink cappuccino's behind bars, why cant one (especially a deathrow inmate) have one last soda or candybar before being sentenced to die?

The killer being executed (also known as KILLING) is being called inhumane for taking a life (killing), so they're not allowed to enjoy a snack. If thats acceptable, how come by that same rationale , the ones flippin the switch to execute (kill) the killer can be allowed to enjoy a snack when they're done with their "inhumane" murder ?

oops, I mean execution

 

[P-Nut]

Re: forgive me i don't hang with sqeeky clean sqaures.nore do i accept that point of view

explain to me then why this lady is going out of her way "CRYING" that prisoners should'nt be able to get candy and soda?

come on that's gay!

Exactly, sounds to me like she's bitter about her loss and feels ALL prisoners should suffer. The one who committed the crime against her family gettin punished isnt enough for her

 

[TRAGIC LOSSES]

Re: Re: Re: whut do you think convicts deserve (this one pissed me off)

what about the families of these people? Do they deserve to get looked down upon?

NO,NOT REALLY....BUT THEY SHOULDN'T EXPECT SYMPATHY EITHER FROM THE VICTIMS FAMILY.

 

[TRAGIC LOSSES]

Re: forgive me i don't hang with sqeeky clean sqaures.nore do i accept that point of view

exactly from tragic losses point of view our suffering is accepted as crying?

explain to me then why this lady is going out of her way "CRYING" that prisoners should'nt be able to get candy and soda?

come on that's gay!

IN MY OPINION,PRISONERS SHOULD BE GIVEN THE BASICS FOR SURVIVAL......CANDY AND SODAS PEOPLE CAN LIVE WITHOUT....I HAVE WORKED IN A PRISON BEFORE IN VISITATON AND WITH THE PAROLE BOARD....I'VE SEEN KILLERS AND CHILD MOLESTERS GO ON WITH THEIR LIVES AS IF THEY DID NOTHING WRONG......DURING VISITS,THEIR FAMILIES CAN BUY THEM AS MUCH STUFF FROM THE MACHINES AS THEY WANT.....I SAT AND WATCHED THESE SICK FUCKS SIT AND EAT ICE CREAM AND DRINK SODAS ALL DAY ENJOYING THEIR FAMILIES WHILE THEIR VICTIMS LAY IN THE GROUND OR EMOTIONALLY FUCKED FROM ABUSE SUFFERED....IS THAT RIGHT???HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN A PRISON WHERE YOU SEE KILLERS AND MOLESTERS GO ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS?????I DID FOR 6 MONTH'S WHILE I WAS LAID OFF FROM MY JOB......IT WAS SICKENING.....A LOT OF THESE GUYS MOLESTED THEIR OWN CHILDREN AND RUINED THEM FOR LIFE.....I SAT IN ON PAROLE HEARINGS WHERE THESE GUYS DESCRIBED IN DETAIL WHAT THEY DID.....MOST STILL SHOWED NO REMORSE NOR DENIED THAT THEY DID IT...IT MADE ME PHYSICALLY SICK EACH TIME I WAS ASSIGNED THAT DUTY......ARE YOU SAYING THAT THESE PIECES OF HUMAN SHIT DESERVE ANYTHING???I'VE BEEN THERE,SEEN AND HEARD SHIT YOU COULDN'T IMAGINE......NOW THATS TRAGIC.

 

[The Bo$$ Hogg]

Re: Re: forgive me i don't hang with sqeeky clean sqaures.nore do i accept that point of view

IN MY OPINION,PRISONERS SHOULD BE GIVEN THE BASICS FOR SURVIVAL......CANDY AND SODAS PEOPLE CAN LIVE WITHOUT....I HAVE WORKED IN A PRISON BEFORE IN VISITATON AND WITH THE PAROLE BOARD....I'VE SEEN KILLERS AND CHILD MOLESTERS GO ON WITH THEIR LIVES AS IF THEY DID NOTHING WRONG......DURING VISITS,THEIR FAMILIES CAN BUY THEM AS MUCH STUFF FROM THE MACHINES AS THEY WANT.....I SAT AND WATCHED THESE SICK FUCKS SIT AND EAT ICE CREAM AND DRINK SODAS ALL DAY ENJOYING THEIR FAMILIES WHILE THEIR VICTIMS LAY IN THE GROUND OR EMOTIONALLY FUCKED FROM ABUSE SUFFERED....IS THAT RIGHT???HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN A PRISON WHERE YOU SEE KILLERS AND MOLESTERS GO ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS?????I DID FOR 6 MONTH'S WHILE I WAS LAID OFF FROM MY JOB......IT WAS SICKENING.....A LOT OF THESE GUYS MOLESTED THEIR OWN CHILDREN AND RUINED THEM FOR LIFE.....I SAT IN ON PAROLE HEARINGS WHERE THESE GUYS DESCRIBED IN DETAIL WHAT THEY DID.....MOST STILL SHOWED NO REMORSE NOR DENIED THAT THEY DID IT...IT MADE ME PHYSICALLY SICK EACH TIME I WAS ASSIGNED THAT DUTY......ARE YOU SAYING THAT THESE PIECES OF HUMAN SHIT DESERVE ANYTHING???I'VE BEEN THERE,SEEN AND HEARD SHIT YOU COULDN'T IMAGINE......NOW THATS TRAGIC.

Damn cuz, U got a lot of anger bout this, U sure there ain't more 2 the story??

 

[TRAGIC LOSSES]

Re: Re: Re: forgive me i don't hang with sqeeky clean sqaures.nore do i accept that point of view

Damn cuz, U got a lot of anger bout this, U sure there ain't more 2 the story??

NOPE.......WHEN YOU HEAR A GUY TALK ABOUT MOLESTING HIS 9 MONTH OLD DAUGHTER AND THEN SLAMMING HER HEAD INTO THE FLOOR TILL SHE DIED BECAUSE SHE WOULDNT STOP CRYING,YOU WOULD BE MAD ABOUT THAT SHIT TOO.......I ACTUALLY CRIED AT THAT HEARING AND WAS REMOVED FROM THE ROOM....

AND FOR THE RECORD,NO INMATE GAVE ME ANY TROUBLE OR SHIT LIKE THAT.....AND NO I WASNT MOLESTED AS A KID OR NOTHING LIKE THAT IF THAT WAS WHAT YOU MEANT....I SAW THESE PEOPLE FOR WHAT THEY ARE.......YALL DON'T KNOW THE HALF ABOUT THESE PIECES OF SHIT.

 

[Tooper]

whut were you doing at the parole hearing?whut was your business there?

and yea i been to my brothers visits in the pen.i'm the one who bought his candy and food and clothes for his packages.

just for the record people get locked up for different situations.they are not all killers and molesters.

 

[drankedout]

I dont think anyone is defending child molesters. But I'm not sure about this but most people on death row are not child molesters. If someone is about to die what is the harm in giving the a candy bar and a soda? What if they are innocent. Not everyone in jail is guilty.

Good post tooper.

 

[Tooper]

whut i don't understand is how can a person of god who goes to church and all that have a say in weather sumone dies or not.

thats makes you a killer too cause whut you said had influence on wether that man dies or not.

it's all for guilty pleasure nothing more.

and they prolly still won't be satisfied.

 

[The Bo$$ Hogg]

Re: Re: Re: Re: forgive me i don't hang with sqeeky clean sqaures.nore do i accept that point of vie

NOPE.......WHEN YOU HEAR A GUY TALK ABOUT MOLESTING HIS 9 MONTH OLD DAUGHTER AND THEN SLAMMING HER HEAD INTO THE FLOOR TILL SHE DIED BECAUSE SHE WOULDNT STOP CRYING,YOU WOULD BE MAD ABOUT THAT SHIT TOO.......I ACTUALLY CRIED AT THAT HEARING AND WAS REMOVED FROM THE ROOM....

AND FOR THE RECORD,NO INMATE GAVE ME ANY TROUBLE OR SHIT LIKE THAT.....AND NO I WASNT MOLESTED AS A KID OR NOTHING LIKE THAT IF THAT WAS WHAT YOU MEANT....I SAW THESE PEOPLE FOR WHAT THEY ARE.......YALL DON'T KNOW THE HALF ABOUT THESE PIECES OF SHIT.

:beard: Naw dogg I didn't mean any of that, I was just curious if U had some loss or some shit, cause U R very heated over this topic. I agree with U I think someone who did that shit that U said shouldn't get no soda or candy as a matter of fact that mutha fucka should be castrated and anally fucced everyday by other inmates, and his death very slow and very painful. As far as Murderers...some of them don't deserve anythang, but pain and sufferin', but others made a mistake, or were defendin' theirs. I don't think we should just say fucc them, They get enough depravation in the pen, so if simple things like candy and soda can help bring a little bit of civilization 2 em, then I say let it be. Cause some of them cats R goin' bacc in2 the general population were they could be killed or raped at any time. It ain't nothin' nice. So I think U have a very valid point, but so does old boy who started this thread.

 

[JazzFan]

Re: Re: whut do you think convicts deserve (this one pissed me off)

Qouted from Tragic Losses

1.THEY DON'T DESERVE A CANDY BAR OR SODA......THEY ARE KILLERS....NOWHERE IN THE LAWBOOKS DOES IT SAY THAT KILLERS ARE ENTITLED TO SUCH "LUXURIES"AS SNACKS AND DRINKS..........IF IT WAS UP TO ME,THEY WOULD HAVE BREAD AND WATER ONLY......

Who are you to say what they deserve?

2.I HAVE NO COMPASSION FOR THE FAMILIES OF KILLERS EITHER....MAYBE IF THEY HAD RAISED HIM BETTER......ANYWAY,THEIR PAIN IS DIFFERENT FROM THE VICTIMS FAMILY.....AT LEAST THE KILLERS FAM CAN GO VISIT,THE VICTIMS FAM DOESNT GET SHIT BUT HEARTACHE......

Who says the killers were raised wrong in the first place, most serial killers come from nice middle class backgrounds.
Both familes suffer from losing a loved one!

3.WHY SHOULD THEY GET THESE PRIVILEDGES?YOU TELL ME......DO THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE THESE THINGS????[

What priviledges? buying a candy bar!?! people that fight against things like that are just full of hate and should instead spend the time praying and be working to forgive the one who sinned against them

4.NO IT DOESN'T.....THEY COMMITED THE CRIME....THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES......ITS A PART OF LIFE TO DEAL WITH THINGS YOU HAVE DONE.....DONT CRY WHEN THE EFFECTS CATCH UP TO YOU.

All true!

5.SEE #2

 

[Tooper]

exactly sum people are in there for mistakes and defending themselves.

just cause they used a weapon thats it they are sent up state and there will be a day they get out.

for those who have served their time and are making it back in the real world more power to them.