WHO WOULD YOU CONSIDER A SELLOUT?

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At Ironic Commando

Ok you got me. Well now that I think about it you are right I dont say yeah last night I fucked this fine bitch and got fucked up smoked about a 8 ball of tweek grandma what did you do last night. And
I probably wouldnt list any successfull shootings I got away with on a job application as a prior job or something Im most proud of. What Im saying is people I hang around would all know me the same way. A few times I thought I knew a person only to find out that they were totally different around other people. But yeah I guess your right I wouldnt go to a job interview strapped and pull out my pipe and take a hit or two and discuss how the food in jail sucks. But I thought that went with out being said. I didnt say I was a fucking idiot G.
 
Dec 13, 2003
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Str8SickLoco said:
At Ironic Commando
I probably wouldnt list any successfull shootings I got away with on a job application as a prior job or something Im most proud of.
lmao! that made day...and the day just started. lol

i do feel ya. there are a lot black " chads and bradfords" out there puttin on a show for the public. but when it comes to money...i aint gonna knock someone's hustle...cause thats all it is when it comes down to it.
 
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Ironic Commando said:
goes to school to make money...and when they do get that money...move out of the hood for better surrounding.
IT AINT ABOUT JUST MOVING, ITS ABOUT ACKNOWLEDING WHERE YOUR FROM. IF YOU MOVE TO THE SUBURBS AND PEOPLE ASK YOU "WHERE YOU FROM?" AND YOU LIE ABOUT IT, THATS WHEN YOUR A SELL OUT. I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE PRIDE IN THEIR UPBRINGING AND HOW THEY WERE RAISED, AND SHOULDNT LIE ABOUT IT
 

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"SELL-OUT- ONE WHO DOESN'T EMBRACE HIS PEOPLE'S WAYS(DOES THE OPPOSITE) AND CLOWNS THEM ALL THE TIME, WORSER THAN THE WHITEMAN."



THAT WOULD BE ME.....THAT WOULD ALSO BE MARCUS GARVEY, MALCOLM X, NAT TURNER AND A GANGLOAD OF OTHER BLACK MEN WHO DIDN'T AGREE WITH THE TAP DANCING SHUCKING AND JIVING NIGGER.

THE FOLLOWING IS FROM A BLACK PERSPECTIVE (MINE).

MODERN SELLOUTS=THOSE WHO SLANG AND BANG THUS KILLING OFF FUTURE GENERATIONS OF BLACKS.


MODERN SELLOUTS= THOSE WHO SHUCK AND JIVE FOR THE WHITE MAN. (CLARENCE THOMAS) OR THOSE WHO LOOK FOR HAND OUTS FROM THE WHITE MAN. (MAKE YOUR OWN EMPIRE)


MODERN SELLOUTS=WHO SAY BITCH THIS, HOE THAT, YET MAKE SONGS ABOUT WE ALL APPRECIATE IT AND DEAR MOMMA....TUPAC WOULD COME TO MIND.


MODERN SELLOUTS= THOSE WHO FORSAKE THE POSITIVE ASPECTS/ROOTS OF ONES CULTURE.


PERSONALLY I FEEL THE BLACK RACE WILL NEVER ADVANCE. I ALSO FEEL THAT IF IT WERE TO ADVANCE THE MAJORITY OF BLACKS IN AMERICA WOULD HAVE TO BE EXTERMINATED. JUST MY *OPINION*



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PERSONALLY I FEEL THE BLACK RACE WILL NEVER ADVANCE. I ALSO FEEL THAT IF IT WERE TO ADVANCE THE MAJORITY OF BLACKS IN AMERICA WOULD HAVE TO BE EXTERMINATED. JUST MY *OPINION*
i respect that. that would be the answer if the black mind wasnt capable of being enlightened. i can ba an example of a changed mind.
 
Dec 18, 2002
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MC_PM$ said:
I think tribalist or anti-culturist would be a more descriptive term than racist.

If you look at it this way, there are 6 basic races, but hundreds of cultures and nationalities. People that do hate on others based on basic skin color and features, then there are most people that hate on a certain way of life with or without the added racial features. I consider most people anti-culturist since it is the culture and way of life that is hated upon more than the race.

For example, a latino and a native american are the same race, but they both posess a lot of different cultures and sub cultures! Same with a black person from New York/East Side and a black person from LA/West Side, they both have the same main culture but both are from different sub-cultures.
This is basically how i feel on the subject, America is HOME for too many different types of humans for people to be "racist" anymore. Have you ever listened to a racist talk about different colored people? They always mimic the ways of life that some "races" live. Sellouts are people who arent proud of their culture,personality,life-style and doesnt have the motivation to change anything for themselves so they lie or act differently, the type of people sickloco described...
 
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Str8SickLoco said:
Damm sounds like Nitro the Guru and MC_PM$ are inteligent deep thinkers. I like what you both said. I always thought Aresino Hall was a sell out. Because he acted white when he interviewed a white guest and black for a black guest. I talk with the same slang and have the same views whoever Im speaking to it doesnt varry to please who Im speaking with. Being real is something that should be standard in friendships but with the way people are now a days I view it as a valuable and rare when it should just be the way it is.
Yo thanks str8. Arsenio Hall.....lol I don't know what to think of that guy anymore. I don't consider him a sellout, but at the same time I am not denying that aspects of him are artificial!

I agree with the fact that he is fake when he changes his style from white to black when a person representing that form of culture is faced with him, but in another way that is kind of logical for a person of his position. I mean the dude is out to put food on his table and get cash, and logic speaks for itself if in order to do that you have to bullshit a little.

In my opinion, logic and honesty/realism do not mix well together, especially when it comes to business.
 
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EDJ said:
SELL-OUT- ONE WHO DOESN'T EMBRACE HIS PEOPLE'S WAYS(DOES THE OPPOSITE) AND CLOWNS THEM ALL THE TIME, WORSER THAN THE WHITEMAN.
There is a difference between embracing your peoples ways and seeing it as an excuse to further or detract from to gain your own benefit out of it.

I see a lot of prideful motherfuckers these days, and I honestly consider pride to be a severely unhealthy way of asserting an aspect of that lifestyle in to your daily life!

I especially see this deadly form of pride with racial gangs that concern Mexicans, Negros, Asians, and other Latinos. I mean let's just say for example a fake mexican overdisplays him/herself with the use of his/her countrys ways and such and you can almost certainly tell in their actions that the way they go about it is a lost cause in the way that they come across with their egos. A real mexican on the other hand does not have to do that kind of bullshit since he/she would already be living that lifestyle and would not have to put themselves on display as in to tell whitey who the fuck he/she is. You know what I mean right?

Hip Hop is severely perverted in that sense as well since now a days it's the glitter of your ice, the banner of your set, or your national pride over what really matters in terms of lyrics, beats, and a general understanding of the music once you listen to it.

I mean do you see me with a bent baseball cap and those flash ass pieces of clothing? Hell no, I usually rock a wife beater with a black shirt and jeans, with no extra bling or caps or ice or any of that bullshit!
 
Apr 17, 2004
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Mexicans are completely different from everyone else when it comes to the race issue. You can be mexican but if you don't speak spanish your not a real mexican and they consider you a white person. You get clowned on because you have no culture, girls who gave you their number and liked you at first don't return your calls when they find out you don't speak spanish. So how can you have pride in your ethnicity when your own people won't accept you? See blacks don't have that problem because when your black your black and unless there's something weird about you you will get accepted as a black person even if you didn't grow up around any black people. You don't have to speak another language or have ANY african culture whatsoever to be accepted by blacks if your a black person. But When your mexican if you didn't grow up in a mexican area and don't speak spanish your as good as white. But whites are gonna be accepted by whites no matter where they go, same goes for asians, middle easterner, etc. So in a large percentage of mexicans eyes your a sellout even if you want to embrace your culture because you should have had that culture from day 1.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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speaking spanish doesnt make you anymore mexican , all that behavior of if you dont speak spanish you aint mexican is childess ,i can see mexicans from mexico acting like that some of them do fuck them , some pochos who lived in america all there life have that attitude but thats stuip , i dont speak spanish but ever questioned my pride of who i am. a mexican sell out is one who says im spanish but my parents are mexicans , i cant stand closet mexicans.presonaly no mexican has ever questioned me like that , just some of us speak spanish some of us speak english shit deep down in mexico way south of mexicans dont speak either and just speak our orginal tounge
 
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nahh.. i don't think race has to do with it.. its culture..I have 2 white parents, but i vgrew up in a chicano neighborhood, learned spanish from 1st grade, ate at my friends houses, and thats my culture.. i was never a 'rocker' and never dated white men, and i don't eat casseroles.. so what's race got to do with it.. u gonna call me a wanna be?? i can break down the chicano movement and mexican american history better than any "mexican" i ksnow.. but i'm white, my parents are white.. i don't try to 'look' different or 'talk' different but people thinbk i'm in denial and that vi'm really mexican... don't ask me why.. but a sell-out or wanna be, i think not..
Arsenio grew up with white folks.. thats his culture- a black man who got along with whirtes..he didn't deny it.
we are the product of our environment..

and i hear people all the time say that going mainstream isn't selling out- its makin ends.. so eazy e and too short and 2 live crew making "clean" albums wasn't selling out.. i mean they didn't just edit- they rewropte the songs to get radio play-- now what about that????? its so funny my lil sister in law had 'shorty the player' and i had "shorty the Pimp" and i remember thinkin ..wtf.. too short really did that to be in the columbioa house catalogue?? thats just fucked up.. but he increased his audience.. so its justifiable, right?? :siccness:
 
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Ironic Commando said:
smokiloc=most retarded comment of the month=IM MEXICAN NOT A RACIST

MAN YOU TYPE SOME OUTLANDISH SHIT YOUR SELF HOW THE FUCK WAS THAT COMENT RETARTED I DONT CARE HOW PEOPLE ACT AS LONG AS IT DOSNT AFFECT ME.



real spit...i've gotten more racist comments from latinos then any other race.
MAN YOU GOT ISSUES WERE YOU ACTING STUPID IS THAT WHY THEY MADE COMMENTS TWARDS YOU.LISTEN I DONT RELIE ON NEGATIVEITY TO FUNCTION BUT THATS WHAT THIS WORLD IS BASICALLY AND ILL BE DAMED IF SOME SQUIRT ON A MESSAGE BOARD ?'S MY PERSONAL INTEGRATY.SO A WORD OF ADVICE IF YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE 2 TYPE AS IN REGARDS 2 THIS SUBJECT.DONT THEY WERE ONLY ?'S.
 
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WOW

SOME PEOPLE GET HEATED OVER THIS SUBJECT AND THEY SHOULD.BE TRUE 2 YOURSELFS.IF YOUR GETTING MAD ABOUT THESE QUESTIONS ASK YOURSELF WHY.MABY ITS TIME 2 REIVAULATE YOUR LIFE.EVERYONE'S GOT OPINIONS AND THATS COOL,BUT WHEN YOU START ATACKING PEOPLE ON THE NET OF ALL PLACES LOL THAT MAKES YOU LOOK 2 YEARS OLD,NAH I TAKE THAT BACK THATS NOT FAIR FOR THE 2 YEAR OLDS.
 
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I agree with most of the sellout definitions and no doubt that we have ALOT of sellouts. People not being true to what/who they are, where they come from, etc.
Let me make a quick point right quick on this definition that us blacks have on selling out...
You might see a brotha go to college, speak correct english, working in an office and wearing suits & shyt. Whats the first thing we do? Call him a sellout and he say he tryin to act white. But when we see a brotha on the corner selling dope, actin ignorant, in and outta jail, sittin back blamin the white man for problems he created for himself...we call that being real, or being black.
We need to cut that bullshyt out because if we keep thinking that like that, we'll never make it any farther in this world.
P.S...But sellout also means turning your back on your people for financial, or any kinda personal gain.
 
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Mista Sinista said:
P.S...But sellout also means turning your back on your people for financial, or any kinda personal gain.
so, like sellin g dope to your own people, knowing its fucking up the integrity of your people and stunting upward mobility???
 
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SMOKIELOCS said:
MAN YOU GOT ISSUES WERE YOU ACTING STUPID IS THAT WHY THEY MADE COMMENTS TWARDS YOU.LISTEN I DONT RELIE ON NEGATIVEITY TO FUNCTION BUT THATS WHAT THIS WORLD IS BASICALLY AND ILL BE DAMED IF SOME SQUIRT ON A MESSAGE BOARD ?'S MY PERSONAL INTEGRATY.SO A WORD OF ADVICE IF YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE 2 TYPE AS IN REGARDS 2 THIS SUBJECT.DONT THEY WERE ONLY ?'S.
you might wanna take it down a notch. you speakin on situations you know nothing about. to say that its my fault i got a racist comment is another example of how you know little about the way the world works. i dont kick it with mexicans...so i dont give them a reason to come at me sideways. its the people who aint got shit to do that make comments (black, white, asian, mexican...whatever). i came from salinas...and just being black alone in that town is enough to catch some uncalled for racist shit directed at you. trust...i've seen my potnas catch worse shit...because they black and chillin at a party with some drunk ass mexcians
i mean really...you actin like you got a puffed chest and a tear in ya eye sittin at ya PC. i mearly made a comment on how retarded that statement was...you commin at me at me sideways...obviously you feel threatened by a "squirt" on the internet to directly address me .next time...if you wanna attempt insluts...dig deep and try harder.

integraty...please. how much of that shit you got tryin to defend it online to a screen name? get off the PC...you too sensitive.