Who is the real p4p King?

[Arson]

fedor has NEVER lost(his one loss is bull shit), silva has lost 4 fights, and been submited, fedor could drop to 205, and MURPH the fuck outta silva, he fights at 230 with a gut. He fights dudes way bigger then him, when has silva ever fought anybody with 40 pounds on him? or more?

anybody who thinks fedor isnt the p4p king, and the best EVER its a fucking groupie fan.

 

[naner12]

fedor has NEVER lost(his one loss is bull shit), silva has lost 4 fights, and been submited, fedor could drop to 205, and MURPH the fuck outta silva, he fights at 230 with a gut. He fights dudes way bigger then him, when has silva ever fought anybody with 40 pounds on him? or more?

anybody who thinks fedor isnt the p4p king, and the best EVER its a fucking groupie fan.

Fedor dropping in weight to fight Silva isn't even what P4P mean, but alright.

If P4P king means all time then I'll agree .. but current isn't all time.

 

[Arson]

Fedor dropping in weight to fight Silva isn't even what P4P mean, but alright.

If P4P king means all time then I'll agree .. but current isn't all time.

I know what it means, but silva losing 4 fights, to fedor losing none, makes fedor the true king, usually the p4p king gotta be undefeated.

 

[RED HEAD STEVE]

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[SuiPSYedKing]

^^^^^
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[KrazeeRDM]

I know what it means, but silva losing 4 fights, to fedor losing none, makes fedor the true king, usually the p4p king gotta be undefeated.

incase u didnt notice anderson silva has improved alot from when he lost them fights. as of right now it's silva without question IMO. and silva just moved up in weight and destroyed a decent fighter as well. P4P best right now is silva. fuck looking at the past look at the now.

 

[naner12]

I know what it means, but silva losing 4 fights, to fedor losing none, makes fedor the true king, usually the p4p king gotta be undefeated.

I agree and it is debatable. I usually don't get too involved in P4P rankings cause it's too subjective. I will say this Fedor will be remembered as MMA's first true great heavyweight and will be talked about for as long as MMA is watched. It'll be like in boxing where people are like "yea but would he have been able to beat Joe Louis?"

Either way they're both dope fighters and I hope they both keep fighting top fighters .. Fedor going back into obscurity after making a big splash in the U.S. by dismantling Tim in under a minute would be the wackest thing possible.

 

[WXS STOMP3R]

NOT TAKING NOTHING FROM ANDERSON WHO IS A HELL OF A FIGHTER. BUT LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE (NOT JUST THE PAST AND FUTURE BUT EVERYTHING) THE AMOUNT OF WINS (28 VS 22), THE VICTORIES OVER THE CURRENT AND FORMER UFC HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPS (NOT TOO MENTION OTHER TOP RANKED HEAVYWEIGHTS), 1 BULLSHIT LOSS, AND LABELED THE BEST POUND FOR POUND FIGHTER BY THE MAJORITY OF THE MMA COMMUNITY (THE REASON RANDY COUTURE IS NO LONGER FIGHTING FOR THE UFC AND WAITING FOR HIS CRACK AT THE MAN)
HOW IS THIS AN ARGUMENT?
YOU TUF KIDS MAKE ME LAUGH.

 

[SuiPSYedKing]

incase u didnt notice anderson silva has improved alot from when he lost them fights. as of right now it's silva without question IMO. and silva just moved up in weight and destroyed a decent fighter as well. P4P best right now is silva. fuck looking at the past look at the now.

James Irvin was a giveaway fight for Anderson. They should of put him against at least someone in the top 15.





and those who say fedor hasnt fought anyone good since cro cop, I say bring them all back on and let him beat them all again, and once and for all prove he is the best P4P ever in MMA. IMO

 

[naner12]

NOT TAKING NOTHING FROM ANDERSON WHO IS A HELL OF A FIGHTER. BUT LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE (NOT JUST THE PAST AND FUTURE BUT EVERYTHING) THE AMOUNT OF WINS (28 VS 22), THE VICTORIES OVER THE CURRENT AND FORMER UFC HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPS (NOT TOO MENTION OTHER TOP RANKED HEAVYWEIGHTS), 1 BULLSHIT LOSS, AND LABELED THE BEST POUND FOR POUND FIGHTER BY THE MAJORITY OF THE MMA COMMUNITY (THE REASON RANDY COUTURE IS NO LONGER FIGHTING FOR THE UFC AND WAITING FOR HIS CRACK AT THE MAN)
HOW IS THIS AN ARGUMENT?
YOU TUF KIDS MAKE ME LAUGH.

LOL @ being a TUF kid because I don't agree with you. I follow this shit more than most I can guarantee you that. They had a poll on Sherdog after the 19th asking who the best P4P is currently after the fights and Anderson Silva was in the lead .. how does that include the majority of the MMA community? Looking at the big picture would mean entire career which would mean Fedor which I agreed with you earlier in the thread that all time it's Fedor hands down .. apparently you didn't read you just type in caps like that makes you automatically right.

A current P4P list is strictly opinion and can be argued all day as long as you have two current dominating champions.

 

[WXS STOMP3R]

LOL @ being a TUF kid because I don't agree with you. I follow this shit more than most I can guarantee you that. They had a poll on Sherdog after the 19th asking who the best P4P is currently after the fights and Anderson Silva was in the lead .. how does that include the majority of the MMA community? Looking at the big picture would mean entire career which would mean Fedor which I agreed with you earlier in the thread that all time it's Fedor hands down .. apparently you didn't read you just type in caps like that makes you automatically right.

A current P4P list is strictly opinion and can be argued all day as long as you have two current dominating champions.

ACTUALLY THIS WASNT DIRECTED TOWARDS YOU, BUT LIKE THEY SAY IF THE SHOE FITS?!?!?


did i mention he's a grand prix champ too. with more than one fight in one day?

 

[KrazeeRDM]

NOT TAKING NOTHING FROM ANDERSON WHO IS A HELL OF A FIGHTER. BUT LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE (NOT JUST THE PAST AND FUTURE BUT EVERYTHING) THE AMOUNT OF WINS (28 VS 22), THE VICTORIES OVER THE CURRENT AND FORMER UFC HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPS (NOT TOO MENTION OTHER TOP RANKED HEAVYWEIGHTS), 1 BULLSHIT LOSS, AND LABELED THE BEST POUND FOR POUND FIGHTER BY THE MAJORITY OF THE MMA COMMUNITY (THE REASON RANDY COUTURE IS NO LONGER FIGHTING FOR THE UFC AND WAITING FOR HIS CRACK AT THE MAN)
HOW IS THIS AN ARGUMENT?
YOU TUF KIDS MAKE ME LAUGH.

1st thanks for the compliment of calling me tuf. and yes the shoe fits there lol. well u say how he fought and beat the ufc title holder twice and everything but failed to mention that anderson silva is a title holder and destroys anyone in his path just like fedor does. see to me right now anderson is easily the PFP king but all time is questionable IMO. maybe it's not anderson or Fedor ya know. it's all opions and theres no real answere. for u to think ur opinion is more dominant than another is just stupid. i respect urs and maybe u should try and respect others. just because they disagree with you doesnt mean there wrong.

James Irvin was a giveaway fight for Anderson. They should of put him against at least someone in the top 15.





and those who say fedor hasnt fought anyone good since cro cop, I say bring them all back on and let him beat them all again, and once and for all prove he is the best P4P ever in MMA. IMO

it was anderson's 1st fight in that weight division. u gotta work ur way up and everything dummy lol. and that guy was a decent fighter (not great) and look what anderson did and that wasnt in his comfortable weightclass. thats P4P right there IMO.

 

[naner12]

ACTUALLY THIS WASNT DIRECTED TOWARDS YOU, BUT LIKE THEY SAY IF THE SHOE FITS?!?!?


did i mention he's a grand prix champ too. with more than one fight in one day?

Surely someone who follows this as much as you knows that the Big Nog final ended with the clash of heads NC in a few minutes, if you consider that a fight. He did fight twice in a night in Rings though.

Also I never slammed Fedor's career or accomplishment, I stated my opinion. It's funny how people get butthurt to the point it gets in the way of actually reading.

HOW IS THIS AN ARGUMENT?
YOU TUF KIDS MAKE ME LAUGH.

How is that not directed at someone arguing it?

 

[SuiPSYedKing]

1st thanks for the compliment of calling me tuf. and yes the shoe fits there lol. well u say how he fought and beat the ufc title holder twice and everything but failed to mention that anderson silva is a title holder and destroys anyone in his path just like fedor does. see to me right now anderson is easily the PFP king but all time is questionable IMO. maybe it's not anderson or Fedor ya know. it's all opions and theres no real answere. for u to think ur opinion is more dominant than another is just stupid. i respect urs and maybe u should try and respect others. just because they disagree with you doesnt mean there wrong.



it was anderson's 1st fight in that weight division. u gotta work ur way up and everything dummy lol. and that guy was a decent fighter (not great) and look what anderson did and that wasnt in his comfortable weightclass. thats P4P right there IMO.

OK dummy time for school TUF = "The Ultimate Figther" meaning you a mma bandwagoner, your mma career started when ufc was on spike for the 1st series. Not so much a good thing in the eye's of true MMA fan, but as you say If the shoe fits then walk in them.

Do you know anderson, did he tell you he wasnt comfortable in 205? You are aware he has fought 205 compitetion before right? This may be his UFC debut @ 205 but he has fought Jermey Horn @ 205 aswell as Alexander Otsuka, and im sure theres others. Do some homework on their careers.


Dont get me wrong either i like watching anderson fight, always have even back in pride and out of. Its just ive seen them both coming up and fedor has always been on top, where as A.S. has the past 2 years. mid 06',07',mid08'

 

[WXS STOMP3R]

OK dummy time for school TUF = "The Ultimate Figther" meaning you a mma bandwagoner, your mma career started when ufc was on spike for the 1st series. Not so much a good thing in the eye's of true MMA fan, but as you say If the shoe fits then walk in them.

Do you know anderson, did he tell you he wasnt comfortable in 205? You are aware he has fought 205 compitetion before right? This may be his UFC debut @ 205 but he has fought Jermey Horn @ 205 aswell as Alexander Otsuka, and im sure theres others. Do some homework on their careers.


Dont get me wrong either i like watching anderson fight, always have even back in pride and out of. Its just ive seen them both coming up and fedor has always been on top, where as A.S. has the past 2 years. mid 06',07',mid08'

THANK YOU. I KNOW IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO RECOGNIZES.




QUOTE=naner12;3802965]Surely someone who follows this as much as you knows that the Big Nog final ended with the clash of heads NC in a few minutes, if you consider that a fight. He did fight twice in a night in Rings though.

Also I never slammed Fedor's career or accomplishment, I stated my opinion. It's funny how people get butthurt to the point it gets in the way of actually reading.

QUOTE]

AND YOU DO KNOW THEY FOUGHT A FEW MONTHS LATER TO MAKE UP THAT SAME FIGHT WHICH WAS STOPPED BY A GASH...AND TO THE SAME RESULTS!!! FEDOR WHOOPED BIG NOG'S ASS AGAIN, SO THEY FOUGHT A TOTAL OF THREE FIGHTS...NOBODIES GETTING BUTTHURT HOMIE...BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE FOLLOWED THE SPORT TO DEBATE WITH SOME SENSE. IF YOU DONT FOLLOW THE DETAILS YOUR ARGUMENT IS WEAK.

 

[Arson]

another thing people forget, is fedor has been TAGGED, and survived, lets see when somebody finally chin checks silva how he will respond, at the heavy weight level, anybody can knock anybody out in a flash.

 

[naner12]

AND YOU DO KNOW THEY FOUGHT A FEW MONTHS LATER TO MAKE UP THAT SAME FIGHT WHICH WAS STOPPED BY A GASH...AND TO THE SAME RESULTS!!! FEDOR WHOOPED BIG NOG'S ASS AGAIN, SO THEY FOUGHT A TOTAL OF THREE FIGHTS...NOBODIES GETTING BUTTHURT HOMIE...BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE FOLLOWED THE SPORT TO DEBATE WITH SOME SENSE. IF YOU DONT FOLLOW THE DETAILS YOUR ARGUMENT IS WEAK.

You can read any of my posts discussing MMA. When did I say that Fedor isn't good or that I don't think he's worthy of being #1? You should read where I said Fedor's career is hands down better than Silvas and that he'll be remembered as a greater fighter.

My posts are directed at CURRENT and not entire career which I made sure to mention several times. It's called opinions homie and that's all P4P is, an opinion. There's MMA radio talk show hosts that argue who's the current P4P #1 and I'd like to think they follow the sport alright. It seems most people think you have to have one certain mindset to be a "real MMA fan" and anyone else HAS to be a wannabe fan.

 

[KrazeeRDM]

OK dummy time for school TUF = "The Ultimate Figther" meaning you a mma bandwagoner, your mma career started when ufc was on spike for the 1st series. Not so much a good thing in the eye's of true MMA fan, but as you say If the shoe fits then walk in them.

Do you know anderson, did he tell you he wasnt comfortable in 205? You are aware he has fought 205 compitetion before right? This may be his UFC debut @ 205 but he has fought Jermey Horn @ 205 aswell as Alexander Otsuka, and im sure theres others. Do some homework on their careers.


Dont get me wrong either i like watching anderson fight, always have even back in pride and out of. Its just ive seen them both coming up and fedor has always been on top, where as A.S. has the past 2 years. mid 06',07',mid08'

didnt cath that T.U.F. thing, never heard it used around so my b on that lol. and all i was trying to say is everybody has a valid point and no1 is correct in the matter. fedor has had the better career no doubt and all i'm talking about is where they are right now and IMO anderson is P4P king right now. that is all i am trying to say lol.

 

[KrazeeRDM]

and for the record i never really watch the ultimate fighter unless it's the last episode so i guess i'm not TUF after all

 

[WXS STOMP3R]

You can read any of my posts discussing MMA. When did I say that Fedor isn't good or that I don't think he's worthy of being #1? You should read where I said Fedor's career is hands down better than Silvas and that he'll be remembered as a greater fighter.

My posts are directed at CURRENT and not entire career which I made sure to mention several times. It's called opinions homie and that's all P4P is, an opinion. There's MMA radio talk show hosts that argue who's the current P4P #1 and I'd like to think they follow the sport alright. It seems most people think you have to have one certain mindset to be a "real MMA fan" and anyone else HAS to be a wannabe fan.

DOG I AINT TAKING IT PERSONAL. YOU WANNA DEBATE THE FACTS...THEN KNOW THEM. YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT NOG AND FEDOR FOUGHT THREE TIMES...SO WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.