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@Broadd


There is the entity...

and covering the entity is the body.


Fortunately, the body is temporary. It will be thrown away like old clothes in due time.

One should, therefore, not lament for clothes.

Heresy may tell you that there are cultural traits which define people. This is true, but only on a material level.

These things only define the clothes. Some clothes have been weathered through certain conditions, which may either taint their perspective or make it stronger. Nevertheless, to identify with the clothes is known as the false ego.

You will not find truth of self under the temporal identification of "black woman". Nor will Heresy find it under "black man".

I hope my words don't go oblivious to you. Unfortunately, I realize more and more that most people are not ready for this type of liberation.

I have been accused by some of trying to strip people of their identity. But eventually the clothes must come off and the naked truth be shown. Everyone should know the inevitability of this. This is spiritual truth and those who are not spiritual will try to find fault with this philosophy.

In conclusion, people may define how you act as being "white", but these words are but perverted reflections of the truth. Even if what you do was exclusive to the "white" culture, this still would not define you as an individual. So, when Heresy attempts to categorize your actions into being "white" or "black", he is missing the point. And such knowledge of the origins of clothes are the traits of a fashion designer...
 

HERESY

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^^^ DID YOU READ THE THREAD? OBVIOUSLY NOT.

Heresy may tell you that there are cultural traits which define people. This is true, but only on a material level.
::SHAKING HIS HEAD::

You will not find truth of self under the temporal identification of "black woman". Nor will Heresy find it under "black man".
::SHAKING HIS HEAD::
So, when Heresy attempts to categorize your actions into being "white" or "black", he is missing the point. And such knowledge of the origins of clothes are the traits of a fashion designer...
DID YOU READ THE THREAD? DID YOU READ BROADDS FIRST POST?

White kids get a lotta flack for "acting black"..but my mother posed a very funny question to me the other day..
"Why are you doing that white people shit"?-love her to death but not the most umm OPENMINDED.This question was brought on with my recent fascination with getting piercings, my longstanding fascination with tats, and spinning System of a Down 24/7. I never thought of doing these things as a white/black issue, just things i like. A few more things that have been brought to my attention by other black people:
SO WAS IT BROADDS MOTHER OR MYSELF WHO CATEGORIZED HER ACTIONS?

ACCORDING TO BROADD IT WAS HER *MOTHER*.

HERE ARE STATEMENTS THAT I MADE:

"HOW CAN ONE "ACT BLACK"?

"I DONT UNDERSTAND THE RELEVENCY OF THIS STATEMENT. SO YOU BELIEVE IN UNIVERSAL ORDER (WHATEVER THAT IS) WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH BEING BLACK?"

"YOUR PREFERENCE YOU'RE THE ONE WHO HAS TO LIVE WITH THAT PERSON...NOT ME. PERSONALLY I WOULD NEVER DATE A WHITE WOMAN. JUST A MATTER OF PREFERENCE."

"IF YOU ARENT INTO RAP AND R&B THATS YOU."

CAN YOU SHOW ME WHERE I CATEGORIZED HER ACTIONS? SHOW ME WHERE I SAID HER ACTIONS WERE "WHITE" OR "BLACK".

I SAID THE FOLLOWING:
BY TALKING WHITE DOES THAT MEAN YOU TALK LIKE A "VALLEY GIRL"?
IN RESPONSE TO BROADDS STATEMENT THAT:
noone has said.." you should speak in ebonics more"..its more like "you talk white sometimes"
NOW CAN YOU SEE WHY I ASKED HER?

916 DID YOU MISS THE PART WHERE I SAID:
NONE OF THE THINGS YOU DO ARE "EXCLUSIVE" TO "WHITE" CULTURE.
???????? IF I SAID THAT NONE OF HER ACTIONS ARE EXCLUSIVE TO WHITE CULTURE HOW AM I CATEGORIZING HER ACTIONS AS "WHITE" OR "BLACK"??????????

:dead: :dead: :dead:

STOP ACCUSING PEOPLE OF THINGS THEY HAVENT DONE. I CONSTANTLY HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT. WHY IS MY NAME CONSTANTLY FLOWING FROM YOUR FINGERS?

BROADD I DONT MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT BUT I HAVE A QUESTION TO ASK YOU.

DO YOU FEEL MY POSTS AND WORDS TOWARDS YOU WERE CATEGORIZING YOUR ACTIONS AS "WHITE" OR "BLACK"?

:H:
 
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@Heresy


I read the whole thread.

Yes, it was her mother she was talking about.

Your responses to Broadd were unuseful. You missed the underlying truth and instead you decided on telling her the things she likes weren't "white". Whether they are or not doesn't matter, that is what I was trying to convey. I may have jumped on you a little, but thats because we have had this debate before and I know where you stand.
 

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::SHAKING HIS HEAD ONCE AGAIN::

Your responses to Broadd were unuseful. You missed the underlying truth and instead you decided on telling her the things she likes weren't "white".
...ROFL!

YOU JUST SAID:

So, when Heresy attempts to categorize your actions into being "white" or "black", he is missing the point. And such knowledge of the origins of clothes are the traits of a fashion designer...
HER ACTIONS ARE *NEITHER*. THEY ARE NOT "WHITE" NOR ARE THEY "BLACK". THEY ARE NOT EXCLUSIVE TO *ANY* COLOR,RACE, CREED OR RELIGION. I *NEVER* ATTEMPTED TO CATEGORIZE HER ACTIONS.

LOL@UNDERLYING TRUTH.

HONESTLY MAN *YOU* DONT KNOW IF BROAD AND MYSELF FINISHED THE CONVO IN PM OR OFFLINE. SO ITS YOUR "OPINION" THAT IT WAS "UNUSEFUL".

Whether they are or not doesn't matter, that is what I was trying to convey.
WHO SAID THAT IT MATTERED? IT DOESNT MATTER AND BROADD IS INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THIS.
I may have jumped on you a little, but thats because we have had this debate before and I know where you stand.
YOU DONT KNOW WHERE I STAND AND I HAVENT HAD THIS DEBATE WITH YOU.

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Thank both of you for your opinions.

Heresy-
i didnt get the impression that u catergorized my actions, i felt your questions were to probe maybe another side to the issue.