Whether u like it or not...

AGENT707 · Jul 28, 2003

I think Bush will get re-elected...i feel there is no one strong enuff in the democratic party to over take him...if he gets re-elected it is going to be an interesting future....i think i read That Hilary Clinton is a Dem. fav...they need more then that..its getting pathetic...AND also,... now arnold is thinking about governing CALI!..what the hell is going on!..I DONT SEE ANYTHING GETTING BETTER IN BOTH CALIFORNIA AND THE U.S...SEEMS PEOPLE WILL BE UNHAPPY FOR A WHILE(UNLESS UR INSANELY RICH)....

P.S.
@ HERESY: what u have written in ur "Location" is just plain stupid. Bush isn't out in the battlefield...its people like u and me who might not have the same opinion as Bush..u cannot deny saddam and his sons were three HORRIBLE people...the WMD'S might be BS...thats a different disucussion though...the years of torture, raping,genocide, ETC, has been put to a halt...u cant be so anti-US...it makes u like very bias...it seems u kinda "control" this forum...and people respect ur views and opinions including myself...but "fight with ur brothers"...LOL...strap some tnt to ur fucking chest and blow ur self up if ur so down with the cause dawg...people like you are so black and white...no grey..either u hate or like the US...there is always room for mixed feelings..i hate to say this cuz its co cliche...but go to Iraq and see how much ur brothers want to fight the US...I gaurantee THE MAJORITY are happier now that uday and qusay are dead

askG · Jul 28, 2003

im in a gray area

i love this country

i hate the ppl that run it...the government doesnt give a shit about you...why should you give a fuck about them.

2-0-Sixx · Jul 28, 2003

(Im not necessarally speaking to you AGENT707)
I cannot believe how many americans actually think we are in Iraq to liberate or we are at war because of the horrible things Saddam has done. During the initial assault on Baghdad, soldiers set up forward bases named Camp Shell and Camp Exxon. Those soldiers knew right then and there why we were in Iraq.

Lets not forget Saddam was doing horrible things when he was our ally and recieving weapons and aid from us.

Sound familiar? Bin Ladin ring a bell? "I guess if your a terrorist for the U.S. then its o.k. " -DP

The cycle of violence is sad, isn't it?

Mcleanhatch · Jul 29, 2003

AGENT707 said:

i am happier now than i was when Clinton was in office and i aint a millionaire. i am not poor (far from it) by i also am not rich, yet i am happy with the current leaders and their conservative views

2-0-Sixx said:

not many, those are just icing on the cake everybody and their grandmas know why we are there and thats WMD.

2-0-Sixx said:

so because he WAS our friend at one time, because his enemy was in our eyes more evil and dangerous to us than he was, lets not do anything to him now.

MC_PM$ · Jul 29, 2003

One word: Al Gore

HERESY · Jul 29, 2003

you and this thread are stupid. how about that?

who said he was? if you think my sig implies that (one hundred to one odds say you do) you're one stupid american.

big deal.

i can deny that. iraqi citizens deny it also. i dont know saddam. i dont know if allegations of murder and rape are true. i dont know if he gassed the kurds (evidence shows that he DIDNT).

might be? DIFFERENT DISCUSSION?

LOL! SAYS WHO? THE AMERICAN MEDIA? THE ASSOCIATED PRESS? WAKE UP JUNIOR. YOU ARE JUST AS BRAINWASHED AS TYPEDEE AND MONDAY NITRO.

I CAN BE WHAT I WANT TO BE. I AM WHAT I AM.

WOW!!!!!! WE HAVE EINSTEIN ON OUR HANDS PEOPLE! GIVE HIM THE LATEST PRIZE FROM THE CRACKER JACK BOX!

SERIOUSLY MAN YOU'VE EARNED A ONE WAY TICKET TO LA LA LAND. ENJOY YOUR STAY.

THE MODS AND OWNER CONTROL IT. NOT I.

ONLY A FOOLISH PERSON WOULD SAY SUCH A THING. WHY WOULD I STRAP TNT TO MY CHEST? IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER TO STRAP A COUPLE OF PIECES TO YOUR MOUTH AND USE YOU AS THE CRASH DUMMY. BETTER YET WHY WASTE THE TNT? JUST USE YOU AS A HUMAN SHIELD AND EVERYONE IS HAPPY.

:SHAKING HIS HEAD:

AND THE MAJORITY WANT THE AMERICAN TROOPS TO LEAVE.

@MCLEANSMACK YOU SAID

WERE ARE THOSE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION????????

:h:

PS WHEN YOU COME AT ME SIDEWAYS I WILL PLAY YOUR GAME...IF IM BORED...

Ender · Jul 29, 2003

@Heresy,

Do you believe in every single thing that Saddam does, and agree with every single decision he's made?

MC_PM$ · Jul 29, 2003

Al Gore would have not plummeted this mess!

HERESY · Jul 29, 2003

Ender said:

NO.

IT IS SAID THAT HE HAD WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. IF THATS THE CASE I DISAGREE WITH HIS CHOICE OF NOT USING THEM AGAINST THE AMERICAN SOLDIERS.

IM NOT SAYING THAT SADDAM IS A SAINT. WHAT IM SAYING IS THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN THAT COUNTRY WHO SUPPORT HIM.

LET THE IRAQIS SOLVE THE PROBLEMS.

WE HAVE PROBLEMS HERE THAT WE NEED TO SOLVE. RACE RELATIONS,ECONOMICS,UNEMPLOYMENT,HEALTH CARE,MISSLE DEFENSE SYSTEM,SOCIAL SECURITY.....

:H:

Ender · Jul 29, 2003

@Heresy

Okay now go over to iraq take up arms with your fellow iraqian brethren and tell Saddam that you disagree withsome of the stuff he's doing, and after he tortures you, kills your family, and rapes your dog, and you are in the last fleeting seconds of your life, I want you to sit back and think how horrible America really is, and how really stupid, blind, and mindless you think the American soldiers are that would of come to save you, but decided not to, cuz you were tryin to shoot they asses.

Respect your country fool, or bounce. Shit you even have that freedom here.

Ender fuckin LOVES America.

Quit with all that traitor ass slander bullshit. It's people like you that tear the unity this country was founded on apart. It's people like you that have other countries laughing in our faces because they think we're weak cuz our own fuckin people don't stand with us. It's people like you that give Dumbass The Terrorist the notion that we'll be easy as a country to crumble with little or no weapons or bombs at all, just a bunch of weakass lies should get us fighting our damn selves.

And no I'm not just talk, I signed up for the Army a couple of months ago and am gonna try for the Special Forces who's motherfuckin motto is "To Free the Oppressed" NOT "To sit back and talk a bunch of bullshit and whine and complain about shit when I should get off my ass and die for what I believe in and for my real American brothers and sisters who still believe we're on the right track". And like my brother who is already in Special Forces in the Marine Corps, and my other brother who is retired Air Force and is now a Sherriff, I'm gonna cut the throats of anybody who would motherfuckin dare take us for soft hearted fools, and whip some ass on the streets of America on people who would try to topple us from within like the snake in the grass faggotass cowards they hope nobody sees they are.

I've done my drugs, I've done my sitting around and complaining, and I've done my seeing that this place needs some fixin and protectin, now I come to fight. What the fuck are you doin?

2-0-Sixx · Jul 29, 2003

Ender said:

AHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Why is it that people must say this???? The biggest bullshit statement ever!

Love this country or leave it! Follow bush or your ANTI AMERICAN! YOUR NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE AN OPINION!

Fuck that shit and this drunkin patriotism.

HERESY · Jul 29, 2003

SERIOUSLY I'D RATHER GO TO THE PLANET TALLON ON METROID PRIME AND HUNT ALIENS.

THIS GUY....

THATS GREAT ENDER. WHAT KIND OF COOKIE DO YOU WANT? CHOCOLATE CHIP? OATMEAL RAISIN? SUGAR?

?!? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

THIS COUNTRY WAS NOT FOUNDED ON UNITY. IT WAS FOUNDED ON DIVISION. DIVIDE THE AFRICAN AND NATIVE FAMILIES. GET THEM TO KILL ONE ANOTHER,DISTRUST ONE ANOTHER....IT'S PEOPLE LIKE YOU DONT PUT THE BLAME ON ME. I DONT HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOUR VIEWS AND UNITE WITH YOU AND AMERICA.

:IN ROBOT VOICE: "IM NOT A ROBOT. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO FOLLOW BLINDLY"

?????? NO ITS PEOPLE LIKE BUSH. PEOPLE WHO INVADE, KILL AND DO IT IN THE NAME OF GOD AND FREEDOM.

THATS GREAT. I HOPE YOU DONT CATCH A BULLET TO THE SKULL WHEN THE *REAL* WAR STARTS.

NICE MOTTO. I HAVE A COUPLE OF MOTTOS OF MY OWN

"SHUT THE FUCK UP"

"SIT BACK AND SHUT THE FUCK UP"

"SIT YOUR STUPID ASS DOWN AND SHUT THE FUCK UP"

"REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING...SHUT THE FUCK UP"

"YOUR POST IS BULLSHIT SHUT THE FUCK UP"

I LIKE THE LAST ONE THE BEST

LISTEN. WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE IN SO ITS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO DIE FOR THAT. YOU CAN GO ON AND CATCH BULLETS. HELL CATCH THE ONES THAT ARE INTENDED FOR ME. IM SURE BUSH AND OR WHOEVER IS PRESIDENT WILL PLACE A FLOWER ON YOUR CORPSE AND REMEMBER YOU AND YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS.

1.WHO IS COMPLAINING? IM SIMPLY STATING MY VIEWS. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO SO.

2.YOU DONT KNOW *WHAT* I AM DOING. END OF DISCUSSION

REAL KILLERS DONT TALK.

I HAVE 4 BROTHERS WHO WERE IN THE MILLITARY. THEY KNOW AMERICA ISNT SHIT. ALL 4 HAD STRIPES.

MY *****FATHER***** WAS IN THE MILLITARY AND SERVED IN A WAR. HE KNOWS AMERICA ISNT SHIT. HE HAS STRIPES.

MY NIECE IS CURRENTLY IN THE MILLITARY. SHE KNOWS IT ISNT SHIT.SHE IS ON HER WAY TO GETTING STRIPES.

I HAVE TWO BROTHER IN LAWS WHO WERE IN THE MILLITARY. THEY KNOW IT ISNT SHIT (WELL ONE OF THEM DOES) THEY BOTH HAVE STRIPES.

WHAT IS YOUR REASON FOR TELLING ME ABOUT YOUR BROTHERS AND WHAT YOU WILL DO TO SOMEONE?

YOU WONT DO A DAMN THING TO ME SO WHATS YOUR POINT OF TELLING ME WHAT YOU WILL DO?

THE PATRIOT,MR.AMERICA OR KURT ANGLE....

I WILL TELL YOU WHAT IM DOIN.

1.IM WAITING ON THIS LARGE ROUND TABLE PIZZA.

2.IM DRINKING A COKE (IT HAS THAT FROZEN TEXTURE BECAUSE I TOOK IT OUT THE FREEZER)

3.IM REPLYING TO THIS RETARDED POST

4.IM ON MY WAY DOWNSTAIRS TO PLAY METROID PRIME.

THATS WHAT IM DOING.

:h:

Ender · Jul 30, 2003

^Cokes, pizza, Metroid prime, sitting around...

I don't know what your doin? Remember real killers don't talk. I'm glad your putting your heart into preparing for the "real" war on planet metroid. LOL!

I won't do shit to you? Your right. I won't have too, you'll die of a cholesterol induced heart attack by the time your "real" war starts. I got bigger fish to fry homey. And I'm the blind robot right, caught up in the masses?

Why don't you tell that theory to Samus.

Ender · Jul 30, 2003

On a serious note tho Heresy.

If I understand where your comin from, your sayin that if you don't believe in what someone is doing you should have the right to overthrow that person because there is no place left to go on earth, right?

So I take that you do believe in war then.

You believe that you should be able to start your own country where there are others who believe in the things you do. And if you truly are righteous then you believe that you should not be all talk and be willing to defend these people and die for them.
Am I still correct?

What happens when your people have lost their way due to corruption, selfishness, and lies? Or another country threatens the peace of your nation?

What do you do then Heresy?

My guess is the next course of action would be to cleanse your country to protect the people that are still faithful, and to kill any and everyone that would come to destroy your people. Right?

Welcome to our presidents dilema.

No I don't know the man personally. But if what he believes in, is what I think he believes in, then I am willing to give my life for him and my brethren without question.

All I need to know is that he will give his life for his people and he is good. I'd fight and die for any man or woman who believes in this.

God help any man who would come to decieve me.

HERESY · Jul 30, 2003

if you dont like what you see you can do something to make an impact. or you can leave.

if its justified.

american soldiers are not dying for iraqi people. american soldiers are dying for people who have an interest in oil.

america has lost its way do to corruption, selfishmess and lies. do you see people invading and knocking down the statue of liberty? what country has threatened the peace of america? america destroyed the peace of iraq.

you do whats right. defend yourself if you must but dont go smashing on people who havent asked for your help or dont have the same views as you.

faithful to what? a flag? 3 colors? a bald eagle? ITS NOT AMERICAS COUNTRY. AMERICA ISNT THE WORLD POLICE. LET THE UN FIX THE PROBLEM OR LET IRAQ FIX THE PROBLEM. WE HAVE PROBLEMS HERE THAT WE NEED TO FIX.

? THATS NOT A DILEMA.

DIE FOR GLOBALISM. THATS WHAT YOU ARE DOING BECAUSE THATS WHAT HE BELIEVES IN. GIVE YOUR LIFE TO HIM WITHOUT QUESTION. GIVE IT TO HIM BLINDLY. BE A PUPPET. A PATRIOTIC PUPPET WAVING A SILLY LOOKING FLAG AND DRESSED IN COMBAT GEAR.

YEAH WHEN YOU DIE FOR HIM WILL HE REMEMBER YOU? NO. WILL HE SEND YOUR MOTHER A CARD? NO. WILL HE SHED TEARS? NO. GIVE YOUR CORPSE A FLAG....IF THAT...HELL HE WONT ATTEND YOUR FUNERAL.

YOU ARE *EXPENDIBLE*

GIVE HIS LIFE FOR HIS PEOPLE????? WHEN DID BUSH GO TO IRAQ TO FIGHT? HOW MANY MEMBERS OF THE BUSH FAMILY ARE IN IRAQ FIGHTING?

ROBOT.

THE PRESIDENT.

Mcleanhatch · Jul 30, 2003

HERESY said:

of course nobody has knocked down the statue of liberty, or at least not yet!!!

but they knocked down the Twin Towers and the USS Cole, and a couple American Embassies, dont know it that is a big deal though

HERESY said:

several have

2-0-Sixx · Jul 30, 2003

Mcleanhatch said:

Which countries a oh wise one?

Mcleanhatch · Jul 30, 2003

note he said "HAS" and not "IS"

1. Germany
2. USSR
3. Italy
4. Austria/Hungary
5. Japan
6. N. Korea

2-0-Sixx · Jul 30, 2003

I disagree with some of those, but whatever.

How about RECENTLY?

Mcleanhatch · Jul 30, 2003

2-0-Sixx said:

1. North Korea

2. Afganistan (Taliban)

3. Saudi Arabia (terror though teaching hatred of anything Western)

4. Iraq (WMD's)

5. Cuba (so close and to communist)

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