where is heresy, thag, 916, Edg, errabody?
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If I may weigh in; I believe the debating subsided around the time when the posting of articles became the way of the thread. That and most of the people from years back have debated just about everything down to the bitter end and are quite reluctant to embark on the same discussions over again. Notwithstanding, many of the people who we tried to rid the forum of were the very people who sparked much of the discussion.
ThaG: The color of the shoe is a fact; true or false mother fucker?!
ThaG: The color of the shoe is a fact; true or false mother fucker?!
i c/s 1000%
as society evolved so did our focus shift to alll the world events that will never end and can never end meant to flood brains... but anyway, ive been here since 2004 and i saw the shift happen before my very eyes.
in some life took over, and others were just ridiculed because their ridiculers didnt know that they were the ones themselves following a trend, and a basic one at that too. sadly.
now about things getting redundant is because people still think that they on top of shit, until the next more learned generation comes along and the oldies get stuck in the same close minded standstill in conscious-evolution that their parents had and perpetuate the cycle.
which answer you lookin for? yours or his?
as society evolved so did our focus shift to alll the world events that will never end and can never end meant to flood brains... but anyway, ive been here since 2004 and i saw the shift happen before my very eyes.
in some life took over, and others were just ridiculed because their ridiculers didnt know that they were the ones themselves following a trend, and a basic one at that too. sadly.
now about things getting redundant is because people still think that they on top of shit, until the next more learned generation comes along and the oldies get stuck in the same close minded standstill in conscious-evolution that their parents had and perpetuate the cycle.
which answer you lookin for? yours or his?
There are some very good points in this post. As someone who has posted here since 2002, and been both very popular and very not popular with my opinions, at a certain point, getting too much into a subject on a message board just loses its intrigue. The topics we discuss here, in general, are very sensitive, sometimes to the point of polarity, and they are issues we all feel strongly about for various reasons. I am very thankful this board exists. I consider myself middle of the road and independent, but its a beautiful thing to see the points of view of others, including those who I may respectfully disagree with.
I specifically remember a thread years ago where I went back and fourth with HERESY about genocide and relations between the "US" and American Indians and African Americans. I remember halfway joking about it and not being too serious, but I also remember seeing it as my way only. I had never thought about the dynamics of the situation. Being a white person, not coming from "Old America," seeing myself detached from the situation, it never occured to me that perhaps what my opinion was of the situation was valid, but not as important or relevant of the opinion of someone whose lineage was personally affected by the situation. In short, I'm not black, and I'm not Indian, so maybe there is something I can learn from someone else about a situation that has affected them.
Maybe I can see it a different way now than when I did before. And sometimes its not about winning an argument or being right, as it is about taking in as much information as you can, from everything surrounding you, and being a better person because of that. Thats the real reason we all live, to be the best people we can be, and to provide a more real and just world for our children that come after us.
I specifically remember a thread years ago where I went back and fourth with HERESY about genocide and relations between the "US" and American Indians and African Americans. I remember halfway joking about it and not being too serious, but I also remember seeing it as my way only. I had never thought about the dynamics of the situation. Being a white person, not coming from "Old America," seeing myself detached from the situation, it never occured to me that perhaps what my opinion was of the situation was valid, but not as important or relevant of the opinion of someone whose lineage was personally affected by the situation. In short, I'm not black, and I'm not Indian, so maybe there is something I can learn from someone else about a situation that has affected them.
Maybe I can see it a different way now than when I did before. And sometimes its not about winning an argument or being right, as it is about taking in as much information as you can, from everything surrounding you, and being a better person because of that. Thats the real reason we all live, to be the best people we can be, and to provide a more real and just world for our children that come after us.
agreed. Even mista murda.
sure the guy had his own weirdo way of speaking thanks to the liquor, but in the end he was rediculed for being an aluminum foil antenna wearin tryin to make contact with aliens.
Honestly, from when i first joined my own views have gotten rediculed, but i joined as a mid teen and even tho my perception has shifted a bit, my beliefs remain the same only i am now more able to express my ideas.
now even with me being here for so long, or ready to debate anybody on whatever, most ppl in here dont even reply to my posts/thread because they feel based on their own views that the questions i pose are of no use to them.
nobody should be censored, especially not at a gangsta rap forum in the Gathering Of Minds.
sorry ppl are attached emotionally to their beliefs because of their historical inner struggles, but STOP THE CENSORING AND THE BANNING.
stay in such a standstill and people will fade away on their own until the gom might as well turn into the spill your heart n get ridiculed for not following the trend of the majority.
fuck the majority.
sure the guy had his own weirdo way of speaking thanks to the liquor, but in the end he was rediculed for being an aluminum foil antenna wearin tryin to make contact with aliens.
Honestly, from when i first joined my own views have gotten rediculed, but i joined as a mid teen and even tho my perception has shifted a bit, my beliefs remain the same only i am now more able to express my ideas.
now even with me being here for so long, or ready to debate anybody on whatever, most ppl in here dont even reply to my posts/thread because they feel based on their own views that the questions i pose are of no use to them.
nobody should be censored, especially not at a gangsta rap forum in the Gathering Of Minds.
sorry ppl are attached emotionally to their beliefs because of their historical inner struggles, but STOP THE CENSORING AND THE BANNING.
stay in such a standstill and people will fade away on their own until the gom might as well turn into the spill your heart n get ridiculed for not following the trend of the majority.
fuck the majority.
I dont think thats it at all. I think most people dont answer you because they have no clue. You pose deep-thinking posts and I just dont think the mental capacity is there for many posters, and that causes them to not care. I hate to knock other folks, but lets be honest...not everyone is equal in terms of intelligence. And that is not to say that you are "smarter" than anyone here, but we all differ in what we know and at what level we know/understand it. You may excel in philosophy, while someone else knows the inner-workings of a refrigerator.
You do be on some Matrix shit though...I would be lying if I said I really contemplated everything you have said. I have a more simplistic view on life, so I guess you and I differ in that sense.
You do be on some Matrix shit though...I would be lying if I said I really contemplated everything you have said. I have a more simplistic view on life, so I guess you and I differ in that sense.
I took an extended break from this site a couple of months ago to delve further into/focus more on my own researching/soul searching. I still continue to do so regularly, but I forgot how much this site made me laugh. Invaluable when you normally contemplate serious matters for most of the day. At the end of it all, we must allow ourselves to enjoy our existence in this reality, otherwise, what are you living for if not to experience?
Well, as I have said many times, but is worth repeating, the problem with most people is that they do not really care about what is true and what is not, and this is the reason why we use labels such as "radical" to describe (and due to the connotations such words carry, not take seriously as a result) views different from the consensus, even though such labels have very little relevance to the actual accuracy of those views.
Tribal thinking, hard coded behavior, difficult to eradicate, not much you can do about it.
Tribal thinking, hard coded behavior, difficult to eradicate, not much you can do about it.
Well I appreciate you sticking it out because as much as I disagree with anybody I don't want them to leave. Arguing with someone who agrees with me is much less interesting.
However, there is a mentality in this forum and even on this site that if your POV is too different that you should leave; even though the irony is that those polarized viewpoints usually incite the most discussion and activity.
And through all this, people still live through subjectivity...period. Thats just the way it is. There is no proof of any deity existing, yet something like 85% of the US believes in some sort of "higher power".
You're right, there is NOTHING you or I or HERESY can do about personal perception. People try to view the world with the least amount of anxiety possible.
You're right, there is NOTHING you or I or HERESY can do about personal perception. People try to view the world with the least amount of anxiety possible.
This is going to be all over the place because I'm pressed for time...
Read the following from I PUKO as it sheds light on what you cited:
Being "too different" creates a sense of tension and deviates from what has been established as norm. Too much change, over time, creates tension and anxiety. However, the main problem comes from people not stepping up to the plate and looking at opposing views from a perspective that limits bias. Another problem is how people go about sharing the information they have. One person may post up hella links, not contribute much, yet people find it worthy. Another person may type some off the wall shit where you wonder if this person is high or mentally retarded. Are they both contributing? Yes, in some way, but at the end of the day who is benefiting from the exchange?
When you take people from their comfort zones they're going to resist. But if you understand the mentality of humans, how we act in self interest, etc, you'll truly begin to see how you can make an impact in your own life and achieve what you want. You don't believe me? Look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs and see where you are on the chart. Look at five of your friends and see where/what they place most emphasis on. Look at the world and see what the world is placing emphasis on. Now ask yourself, how did things become this way? Then ask yourself if you're able to understand where the other person places most emphasis/priorities, (or where they are coming from, perspective, etc) and if you can use it to your advantage?
Some of this post may be hit or miss cause I'm pressed for time, but soak on what is there and take it for what it is. We're all here on this planet for whatever reason and have to make the most of it while we're here. If I can learn from you so be it. If you can learn from me so be it. But at the end of the day, we all need to check ourselves and do the best implementing the knowledge and information we recieve. There is only one thing on this planet that is not up for debate and that is death. You're here? You're going to die. Everything else, God, dogma/doctrine, science, morality, tolerance, politics, etc is up for debate.
Read the following from I PUKO as it sheds light on what you cited:
Being "too different" creates a sense of tension and deviates from what has been established as norm. Too much change, over time, creates tension and anxiety. However, the main problem comes from people not stepping up to the plate and looking at opposing views from a perspective that limits bias. Another problem is how people go about sharing the information they have. One person may post up hella links, not contribute much, yet people find it worthy. Another person may type some off the wall shit where you wonder if this person is high or mentally retarded. Are they both contributing? Yes, in some way, but at the end of the day who is benefiting from the exchange?
When you take people from their comfort zones they're going to resist. But if you understand the mentality of humans, how we act in self interest, etc, you'll truly begin to see how you can make an impact in your own life and achieve what you want. You don't believe me? Look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs and see where you are on the chart. Look at five of your friends and see where/what they place most emphasis on. Look at the world and see what the world is placing emphasis on. Now ask yourself, how did things become this way? Then ask yourself if you're able to understand where the other person places most emphasis/priorities, (or where they are coming from, perspective, etc) and if you can use it to your advantage?
Some of this post may be hit or miss cause I'm pressed for time, but soak on what is there and take it for what it is. We're all here on this planet for whatever reason and have to make the most of it while we're here. If I can learn from you so be it. If you can learn from me so be it. But at the end of the day, we all need to check ourselves and do the best implementing the knowledge and information we recieve. There is only one thing on this planet that is not up for debate and that is death. You're here? You're going to die. Everything else, God, dogma/doctrine, science, morality, tolerance, politics, etc is up for debate.
I grew tired and apathetic.
Essentially, we are all fucked.
In issues of race relations, environmental issues, international relations and history, eventually all points arc toward "white people did it".
In addition I agree that we have all reached a sort of parity. It is hard to say something on here that I havent said before in some shape or form.
Essentially, we are all fucked.
In issues of race relations, environmental issues, international relations and history, eventually all points arc toward "white people did it".
In addition I agree that we have all reached a sort of parity. It is hard to say something on here that I havent said before in some shape or form.