^^^ i can understand why fools up north would wanna claim sur.almost all nortenos i seen here in siccness,are either talking bout ''my nigga'' posting pics wit loud ass clothes,or just simply thinking their black,they even have sum shit called black and brown unity..notice they put the black first.like u said vinn,them surenos think up north think that having mexican pride is being sureno,maybe cause they rather identify with the mexican culture and not the black culture..just look how many nortenos always use the word wetback.thats a word used to disrespect any1 of mexican desent...to me its just simple,nortenos chose to go the black route and now have to deal with fools who dont.....like i said before..thats your bad and if u dont like it..handle your bussiness and run motherfukers outta town.