WHATS UP WITH MR.KEE AND DON CISCO

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im guessing Isolated InThe Game came out in 98 right after 17 Reasons. The reason I brought it up is that people here are saying Cisco shouldn't be rapping with Surenos because hes from the North and hes been on 17 Reason. San Quinn collabs with Nortenos and then makes a song for Surenos and even raps about it in his song. Why doesnt anyone hate on Quinn?
if i had heard of him doing this, i'd be one of the first ones to say fuck quinn, he's sorry now anyways. he ain't done any shit i have liked since the mess and san quinn album
 
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DARKROOM JUST GOT A LITTLE SOFT

WELL CHECK IY OUT FOR THE HOMEY DUTCH SAYING KEE GOT AWAY FROM DARKROOM CAUSE THEY WAS WHACK. THAT SHIT AINT TRUE THEY WERE TIGHT AT FIRST WHEN IT WAS LOWDOWN/DARKROOM. BUT THEN THEY STARTED GETTING A LITTLE SOFT BUT THEY WAS WASNT MAKING MUSIC FOR EVERYONE THEY WAS MAKING MUSIC FOR US NORTENO HOMIES NOT FOR THE MAIN STREAM RAP FANS. THEY AINT ROC-A-FELLA OR BAD BOY RECORDS THEY WAS NORTENOS WHO COULD SAY WHAT THEY WANTED IN THERE RAP SONGS WITHOUT SOME WHITE DUDES TELLING THEM WHAT THEY COULD AND COULDNT SAY. THEY WERENT TRYING TO WIN AN MTV,BILLBOARD,GRAMMY,OR VIBE AWARD. THEY WAS JUST TRYING TO RAP REAL SHIT. AND JUST HELPED KEE SO HE COULD BECOME A MAIN STREAM RAPPER AND NOT ALWAYS UNDERGROUND LIKE DYNO ,DUKE ,CROOKED OR A.L.G. BUT THATS MY OPINION THEY DID WHAT THEY WANTED TO AND NEVER SOLD OUT. BUT THE THING THAT KILLED THEM WAS THEM HOOKING UP WITH DOGDAY AND PARTING WAYS WITH LOWDOWN. IF LOWDOWN AND DARKROOM WERE STILL TOGETHER PEOPLE WOULDNT TALK SHIT OF THEM BEING WHACK.
 
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This ones gonna take a minute, so haterz beware…

Like I said, this here is facts not drama or disrespect. But don cisco is a bitch, that nigga is a varrio claimer, straight sucka, thats why cats aint feeling him, thats why two years ago at the streetlow carshow he got jumped for fucken with frost, the whole group ran back to the limo and burnt rubber getting up out of there, while nortenos was trying to fuck up the limo too. You right you aint never heard cisco yell out any north side shit, but when you claiming hoods like san fran mission, east side san jose, and varrio grande excelsior, there aint no way you dont know what time it is and fucken with scraps cats is going against the grain. That cat did do some work on 17 reasons and at that time no one from black and brown knew that nigga was gonna switch up. Just keeping it real, and that nigga is fake.

As far as isolated in the game. It was not a scrap compilation but 2 of the ceos are scraps, this arab dude name martin owes a store on market street, he went and got all this rappers together for the comp, the comp is tight I didnt buy and I only listen to it a couple time,(just keeping it real) I got mine from the bnb family someone sent them a few copies. Anyways then he got some investers which was scraps from 19th street, and them scraps are so weak, the faggots(real castro fags) took over there park, thats Dolores park, yea the scraps was there for a couple years, and the faggot community ran em out. Any ways, the brothers get down different than us nortenos, but most of them know how we get down, so they network with who ever and we aint hating. But real homies dont cross that line it aint about what you think, its just how it is. A lot of cats get it twisted, yea it did start out as a Mexican war in the 60s, but in the 80s a lot of different races got involved mostly from the norte, (and the scraps got a few different race too, but not many) and not the whole race either but a lot of cats grew up in the hoods, around the culture and keeping it real they stayed representing with they homies, if there hood has northern roots then they claimed norte no matter what color they are, because the norte aint about your skin tone now or what color you walk out the house with, its whats in your hard, your corazon. A lot of cats speak on woodie about his color, well hes putting it down for the cause, and thats all that matters, he representing and letting it be know. and yes, if he went to the pen he would be embraced as a loved one, and all homies will be embraced if they claiming the norte, because you are representing us, but other races do get tested alittle harder than latinos when they claiming norte, but when they show they heart and loyalty, its all norte. Now ya should show that homeboy the respect he deserves.
Ill take it back in the days when all hoods was nortenos, we was funking with each other, homies didnt were red or blue like they are today, but everybody was from the north, go back and look at old pictures of your hoods, under everybodies graffiti it said 14,catorce,xiv, ene, norte, Im talking about the 70s thru now, but now that colors movie american me came out more people started getting flamed up or flued up. The north always represented the red , but mostly it was homies that paroled that was flamed up, later on people caught on. But now since we got suckas claimin sur 13, homies have to flame up to let it be know, and the thing is most of these fools claiming sur13, were born right here in northern cali, they aint even real ones, they living and dieing for some fools they dont even know, some hoods didnt school there youngsters, then I few real scraps and border brothers move in and poison em too.shit, if they look like a scrap, check they ass and let em know, we were red around here potna. To these fake scraps its a fade, like when cats was breakdancing, everybody was saying they was from new york, a lot of fools started with a fade and got smoked, and that fade aint fun no more its away of life, so cats that aint knowin shouldnt speak on shit, and thats how it goes down in these rough spots. Fuck that shit, if a homeboy is representing in new york, Colorado, or where ever the fuck, its northern unity and we are moving worldwide too. Cant stop, wont stop. Push, pull, strive, fool the norte is live. It aint just the scraps, we got cats everywhere,but homebase is northern kilafornia.

I know, I went off course on this one but shit, Im commenting on a few post,. Like I said cisco got flows but as far as character hes a bitch, mr kee, he also got flows and he dont claim norte. but he knows what time it is, and for ya cats that listen to this underground shit, go listen to the northern ghetto boys song "north side killa" and tell me whos voice that is, its seldom seen, another name mr kee goes by on some of his albums. Just like mousie went under cynical on the same album, sometimes cats do they own makevelli stunts, so yea he did but it down for the norte on wax. This is facts homie .
 
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Yo I just wanna say whaz up to Woodie, Dutch, and B12.
I been away for a while, I hope all is ok in your worlds.

And to everyone else in here fussin about Kee and Cisco, I've even heard someone mention, Baby Beesh;
You all need to settle down a bit.
Does it really matter what side of the gate a cat stands in?
I mean these cats ain't reppin shit in their music,
after all they are only music artists....

THEIR only purpose in YOUR life is to entertain you.
It's not like you'll rely on your favorite gangster rapper to back you up if need be.
Not that I'm saying that the MC's in question do bang, I personally feel that they ain't bangin.
But there is rappers out there that do bang and never mention it in their music.
Look at Techn9ne for instance,
everyone loves his shit, even crips. Music is an artists' job,
not a podium to promote his gang!
Gang bangin is a full time job, for the real g'z.
Cats like Kee are tryin to earn an honest buck.
Lets not knock on him for that.

This life is a struggle and a game of survival.
Don't be a speed bump in the way of some other cat tryin to pass you up....
We are all trying to get to the finish line, and there's plenty of room in the road for everyone.

My 2 cents,
Miggidy
 

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I thought that verse on the Northside Killaz song was Goldtoes. Someone on the BART board said san quinn wrote the words and gold toes rapped.
 
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Attention! (Frost on B-N-B)

Hmm! all ya'll up in here fussin about Don Cisco being a traitor for rappen with Frost after doin 17 Reasons! Well news flash homies Frost is featured on the new Black-N-Brown album titled (21 GUN Salute) Hmm what ya'll arguen about now huh? it shocked the shit out of me cuz on the front cover ya got Gold Toes kicken it!...LOL! what now huh! Explain this one! Like I said business is business anything else is bull shit!
 
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DAMN WHAT A FUCKEN SHAME

I GUESS BLACK N BROWN IS NOT REMEMBERING ITS ROOTS FUCKEN SELLOUTS. CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN WHAT BLACK N BROWN IS TRYING TO DO. TO ME THEY THINK SCRAPS AND NORTENOS GET ALONG. FUCK THAT LAST TIME I BUY THAT FAKE ASS MUSIC.AND IF ANY REPRESENTATIVE OF BLACK N BROWN GETS ON HERE COULD U PLESE EXPLAIN THIS SHIT.
 

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@King Louie
On the OG bart board I remember someone saying that. The voice that raps that verse is distorted so I cant really tell who it i.

If its Kee why would he change his voice up like that?
 
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I think it really is Kee.
I can find out but who really cares.

Big Deebo,
B&B ain't sell outs dogg.
I've been talkin to my boy Rico for a while and it seems that they just wanna stay neutral at this point.
I haven't heard anything about Frost comin out on any of their albums.
But regardless of that, Frost ain't bangin any more.
That's why you saw him with Latino Velvet.
So who really gives a shit?
I guess only the true Nortenos do. But it ain't like ghetto muthafuckas is buyin this shit anyways, most just burn cd's from their friends ha ha ha...

But with all kidding aside.
Rico's been tryin to put an all Norteno album similar to GUN for quite some time now. But I guess Julio's not too fond of that idea.
They don't want to hurt they're marketability.
It's not that they want Surenos buyin their shit.
But they want everyone to buy their shit.
They understand that there's hella cats out there who do not bang and won't buy a Norteno album just because they cannot relate to it.
I know a lot of cats who say, "that cd is tight, but why should I buy it? I ain't a norteno"....

At first Rico told me he would bring the album out himself, with out the B&B name on it.
But later he told me that it would come out as a B&B cd, but it would only be available in limited edition, here in northern cali.

I don't know what they're up to now.
I can't blame them for what they're tryin to do.
Is it gonna work? I don't know.
I think they already burnt their bridges. Everyone thinks of B&B as a Norteno label. I don't think they can turn it around any more.
But that's my opinion.
As long as the music stays tight, they'll be alright....
 

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#91
thats goldtoes rappin on that song not kee... and yes quinn wrote the verse for him.......

middigy i feel you .......... your comments are on track and truthfulll do what you do playa.......
 
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well, if frost would shake the hand of a norteno, then he is a fool. i am a Christian, and i still won't gladly shake the hand of a known scrapa.

and another thing. they already put out that ryda thugs with spm and them fools on it too, and alot of people have been saying they all scraps too, so who knows what's going on with bNb. i haven't bought a cd off that label since the gamblaz first one anyways
 
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Re: Attention! (Frost on B-N-B)

King-Louie said:
Hmm! all ya'll up in here fussin about Don Cisco being a traitor for rappen with Frost after doin 17 Reasons! Well news flash homies Frost is featured on the new Black-N-Brown album titled (21 GUN Salute) Hmm what ya'll arguen about now huh? it shocked the shit out of me cuz on the front cover ya got Gold Toes kicken it!...LOL! what now huh! Explain this one! Like I said business is business anything else is bull shit!
& THIS IS BULLSIHT HOMIE. I AGREE WITH DEEBO, FUCKIN SELL OUTS.

MONEY STACKS COME & GO. BUT THEY CAN GO AHEAD WITH THEIR SO CALLED "BUSINESS". BUT DONT EXCEPT ME & A GRIP OF OTHER HOMEBOYZ TO SUPPORT BULLSHIT LIKE THAT!!!!
 
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But regardless of that, Frost ain't bangin any more.
FUCK EX-BANGERS AKA BANDWAGON BANGERS


........ONCE A SCRAP ALWAYS A SCRAP AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED, EVEN IF HE IS A SUPPOSED "EX-BANGER"
I've been talkin to my boy Rico for a while and it seems that they just wanna stay neutral at this point.
WHAT THA FUCK?!? WASNT B-N-B NORTENO BASED TO BEGIN WITH
 
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HaHa !!!!

foe those uneducated ass fools peep game:

Check this out, gold toes, dont fuck with scraps, that 114% norteno on his, he was networking with cats out in texas cause he was being wanted by the law. But he got arrested a month ago, gold toes tells everybody spm aint no scrap, spm is from a black neighbor hood in texas called south park. Its just south is a fucked up name to have for a hood when you are from the north and people get it twisted. As far as frost, we aint seen no frost on bnb labels, if so then scan the album cover, credits and post it so we all can see it, no disrespect but dont make up rumors just to get a thread started.goldtoes is a solid norteno he is down for the homeboys but he is trying to make his company bigger. I really doubt that he would sell out the homeboys for some scrap yes, goldtoes did rap on the northern ghetto boys cd, he did his verse not the chorus(hook) yes san quin wrote goldtoes verse not the hook. That song north side killa was originally a bnb track. It was mr kee as the hook(chorus) and sg did a verse, tone loc did a verse, young rico did a verse not the rico thats on there, and Wesley the snitch did a verse. This song took 4 sessions to do, and gold toes got tired of doing it so he sold the beat and the song to ghettoline one Saturday at g-man stans studio. Ghetto line keep the chorus but kee didnt want to be exposed as a norteno rapper, but everybody knew. Everybody else was erased and replaced for different reasons and thats how that song got completed. As far as get off the block, san quinn wrote that verse and rapped the chorus, then a couple homeboys adlipted on top of the chorus. If you aint believing me do what I did and ask some one from glp thru email or bnb. Shit, starz the limit, ghettoline they all be at them shows ask em like I did. And the northside stories is a norteno album coming out of northern cali from scrap serving entertainment, and they networking with all homeboy labels. And if you that tight with mr kee ask him yourself. Keep it real.the truth comes out always in the end.
 
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