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I've never voted before, but I've always wanted to be invovled during the elections. I told myself last year that this year I would vote for someone, but so far I havent found anyone one worth voting for. I know I dont want Bush to stay in office, but I dont see anyone that looks much better than him. I wanted to vote for Al Sharpton but thats almost like not voting at all since he dosent have any chance to win. Plus we all know that he only ran to gain attention to his own politics, but never realy intened on wining. I just wish that there was someone that was worth voting for in this election. I just dont want Bush getting reelected for another 4 years.

Just my opinion....Holla
 
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I've gotten to the point where I feel that our votes dont count. How can someone win an elecinon with out winning the peoples vote? It dosent make any sense to me. Maybe I'll move to Canada and get free health care or something.


Holla
 

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1. If you're dumb enough to believe punching a hole in a piece of cardboard (or thouch screen voting) will make a difference you're an idiot.

2.If you believe elite families (mostly consisting of white and "jewish" people) will allow "common" people (such as yourself) to decide the leadership of the most advanced country on the globe you're an........you know what.........disregard everything I said.



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"HERESY
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1. If you're dumb enough to believe punching a hole in a piece of cardboard (or thouch screen voting) will make a difference you're an idiot.

2.If you believe elite families (mostly consisting of white and "jewish" people) will allow "common" people (such as yourself) to decide the leadership of the most advanced country on the globe you're an........you know what.........disregard everything I said.



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For someone who's so well educated some of the rhetoric b.s. that comes out of you is pretty astonishing...
 
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Here's a quote that comes from www.moveon.org


It’s easy to be cynical about politics and to believe that one vote barely matters. But consider these facts: John F. Kennedy’s 1960 victory over Richard Nixon—a victory that ultimately led to sweeping changes in civil rights laws, the first great wave of space exploration, and the creation of Medicare—was decided by just 100,000 votes nationwide. In 1994, the year Republicans won both houses of Congress, the redistribution of about 10,000 votes nationally would have kept Congress in Democratic hands. One of my former House colleagues, Connecticut Democrat Sam Gejdenson, won reelection by twenty-one votes that year. (“All you need is one,” he remarked; “the rest are for your ego.”)

The democratic political process isn’t perfect. Winston Churchill once said it’s the worst system for governance “except for every other system that has ever been tried.” Often, you may find no candidate who completely reflects your views. But as voter participation has declined—from nearly two-thirds of eligible voters in 1960 to less than half in many national elections today—strong and decidedly undemocratic forces have stepped in to fill the void.

In a democracy, the future isn’t something that just happens; it’s something we shape for ourselves, together. Special-interest lobbyists get the government they pay for only when we stay home from the polls—only when we abdicate the electoral power that is mightier than any soft-money check, more decisive than any million-dollar ad blitz or corporate misinformation campaign.


Still think voting is pointless?
 
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mostly consisting of white and "jewish" people

Hip hip horray woopie I can't believe I run the world still even after mel gibson let the whole world know Im decended from satan via Kain. I hope my evil bloodline gets to rule the world forever and we can finally complete our master plan detailed in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Then we can bring our evil lord to life at the seat of Satan in pergumum.
 

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Formaldehyde Rx said:
mostly consisting of white and "jewish" people

Hip hip horray woopie I can't believe I run the world still even after mel gibson let the whole world know Im decended from satan via Kain. I hope my evil bloodline gets to rule the world forever and we can finally complete our master plan detailed in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Then we can bring our evil lord to life at the seat of Satan in pergumum.
Mel Gibson said you are from the bloodline of Cain? If so he might be correct! LOL!!!!! If you're a Jew...no if you're HEBREW (semetic) which of the 12 tribes do you trace to?




@jomodo What are your views on one Rothschild family member funding Bush Sr while another Rothschild family member funded Clinton? What are your views on the majority of media outlets being owned by people of euro and euro/jewish origin? Do the majority of major media outlet owners hold membership with the CFR and TLC? What is your opinion in relevence to Bush jr being a Skull & Bones member and John Kerry discussing his own membership in Skull & Bones? Can you elaborate on the Council on Foreign Relations or the Trilateral Commission? Let's talk Dupont's. What do you know about them? Better yet what do you know about the Federal Reserve? Who are it's top ten investors/shareholders? Is the federal reserve backed by tangibles/commodities or paper loaned at insane interest rates? Can you elaborate on the nationalities of those who control the WB or IMF? What are your views on Arbusto energy and the Bush link with the Bin laden family? What does this have to do with voting? Do the research and do the math. You don't have to hit a "conspiracy theory" website to find ****public**** information. Public information that has been PROVEN to be FACT.




Maybe voting counts in some backwater bama country with a population of 19, but when it comes to LEADERSHIP of countries (America) large economies (America being the largest in the world and California being the 5th largest) and large states the answer is NO.
 
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The Rothschild family is a family and should not represent an entire culture or religion.

A mojority of media outlets are owned by right-wing christians, (i.e. Murdock, Clearchannel, ect.) Hollywood and other production companies for entertainment value have a high % of Jewish representation, when it comes to broadcasting news and media outlet it is the far right in power.

The CFR (still run predominatly by the Rockwell Fam) & TLC are complex subversive organizations which have deep seeded political ties and a fiscal agenda to match. I agree w/ the initial movement w/ Marxist ideals for a one-world gov't. Now they have skewed from their mission, but still hold total control.

ect. ect. ect. All of these organizations have Jewish people as members &/ contributors, but not only Jews.

However, it is pure prejudice to hold the ties of few individuals to represent an entire culture. As a whole, Jews only represent 5% of the total US population, and that number is rapidly declining annually (Im sad to say). I don't have any statistical informaiton, but I would be willing to bet that less then 10% of that 5% has major poltical pull in relation to the Fed, or Skull & Bones, or TLC or CFR . Minority leadership can not represent the majority of a culture. Members of these groups both yiddish & goyim have detailed political and fiscal self-serving goals. However, survey the majority of the 5% population, & I would again be willing to bet that their political interests are geared toward fair treatment of human rights, social responsiblity, the importance of family and community (taking care and giving back) and equal rights and opportunities for all.

All prejudice and bold sweeping discrimination is bad...
I just get irratated when the only connotation for Judaism is big politics & money. That's all our subversives want to focus on. Nobody ever focus' on the Jew who studies Torah, attends synagoge, performs mitzvahs, gives tzedaka, and observes religious customs & dietary laws. (believe me there are a lot more of us out there w/ these ideals and standard of living than the afforementioned)

Back to the threads topic: Voting still does count, not only for the executive & legislative branch, but the local level as well (i.e. county councilman, city councils, mayors ect...) If we do not fill people w/ socially just incentives in these positions than who the F*** is going to represent us along the way.

Dr. MLK loved this country so much b/c he saw the opportunity for excellence & change that we have. As socially conscious people we must do what we can at the local level to "think globally, act locally" If we sit idle, things will never change. Our beliefs for a true democracy are difficult, but attainable it comes down to the masses uniting. If we don't we will continue down the BigBrother road we are on & the christian right will continue to take away our civil liberties we enjoy and continue to mix church & state).
 

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The *MAJORITY* of people who hold membership with both groups are comprised of members of what race(s)?

"ect. ect. ect. All of these organizations have Jewish people as members &/ contributors, but not only Jews."

No one has implied that they were strictly "jewish" in membership. J.Jackson and C.Powell hold membership and they aren't "jewish" by any stretch of your vivid imagination. Once again the *MAJORITY* of people who hold membership with both groups are comprised of members of what race(s)?

"However, it is pure prejudice to hold the ties of few individuals to represent an entire culture."
It's prejudice to say the world is controlled by elite families of euro and euro/jewish background? Hmmmmmmm thats interesting. I'm not gassing jews in concentration camp's nor am I saying all whites/euro's are slave holding pedophilles. So what am I saying? I'm saying teh SAME thing I said earlier. The SAME thing you quoted me on.

"As a whole, Jews only represent 5% of the total US population, and that number is rapidly declining annually (Im sad to say). I don't have any statistical informaiton, but I would be willing to bet that less then 10% of that 5% has major poltical pull in relation to the Fed, or Skull & Bones, or TLC or CFR ."

Instead of typing percentages that come from the back of the toilet try reading a book. You *FAIL* to see that I did not mention "jews" as a whole. What I said was RESTRICTED to what? Those who come from ****ELITE**** families. As a whole "jews" represent 5% of the total united states population but control how much of the worlds *WEALTH*? What point are you trying to make? Please make it quickly.

"Minority leadership can not represent the majority of a culture. Members of these groups both yiddish & goyim have detailed political and fiscal self-serving goals. However, survey the majority of the 5% population, & I would again be willing to bet that their political interests are geared toward fair treatment of human rights, social responsiblity, the importance of family and community (taking care and giving back) and equal rights and opportunities for all."

Once again my original statement (the one you quoted) dealt with people that come from "elite" families. No one is blaming "jews" as a whole nor is anyone implying that the "jewish" people are bad. With that being said stop the "uoptia-perfect peace" jargon and stick with the issues.

"All prejudice and bold sweeping discrimination is bad..."

I agree it is which is why I restricted my initial comment to a specific groups of people and not as a whole.

"I just get irratated when the only connotation for Judaism is big politics & money. That's all our subversives want to focus on. Nobody ever focus' on the Jew who studies Torah, attends synagoge, performs mitzvahs, gives tzedaka, and observes religious customs & dietary laws. (believe me there are a lot more of us out there w/ these ideals and standard of living than the afforementioned)"

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........You're boring me here. Listen I could care less about these so called "jews" observing the Ten-Days of Awe or blowing a shofar. You can eat swine, observe the Shabbat and wear cotton all day long but that means what to me? ZERO! NADA! NATHAN! ZILCH! I'm not talking about Judaism. I'm talking about the ELITE people who consider themselves "jewish" as in RACE/NATINONALITY.

"Back to the threads topic: Voting still does count, not only for the executive & legislative branch, but the local level as well (i.e. county councilman, city councils, mayors ect...) If we do not fill people w/ socially just incentives in these positions than who the F*** is going to represent us along the way."

Everything I have stated has to do with voting. Why should a person vote when the nominee's are in the same special interest groups and receive money from the same families? You giving me a sermon on humanitarian "jews" should have been left out. The average american vote does NOT count/matter when dealing with executive and legislative branches on the major level. Special interest groups, lobbyist and the power of the almighty dollar have a louder voice.

"Dr. MLK loved this country so much b/c he saw the opportunity for excellence & change that we have. As socially conscious people we must do what we can at the local level to "think globally, act locally" If we sit idle, things will never change. Our beliefs for a true democracy are difficult, but attainable it comes down to the masses uniting. If we don't we will continue down the BigBrother road we are on & the christian right will continue to take away our civil liberties we enjoy and continue to mix church & state)."

LMAO@ "the christian right"!!!!!!! With that statement alone you've convinced me of your brainwashing. BAAAAAAAH BAAAAAAAAAAH.......you sheep are killing me here......

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