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Fuckoff said:
no i aint i heaven u foo

but yes i believe that all people in heaven r saints

the saints that you see in books n shit r ones that are famous 4 doin some miracles or sumthin else
im pretty sure the catholic church has a list of people that they believ r definately saints but it takes a long time after u die to get on it n it doesnt include all saints either just ones that they think r for sure saints
Settle down son, lets speak in a civilized manner.
So ease off with the insults.

Basically, what you are saying is that it's ok to pray to saints because they will help you reach heaven.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Jesus say no one sees the Father without going through him?
What does that mean to you?
 
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I'm tryin to understand why you would pray to a saint.
You understand that salvation comes through Jesus but yet you claim to pray to Saints so that they can guide you to God.

According to the New Testament, Jesus is that one and only guide....
 
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did want to say shit i wasnt sure of but i found this

Why do Catholics pray to saints?


In order to ask them to pray to God and Christ for us.


Q: Why not pray directly to Jesus?


A: One should pray directly to Jesus. Praying to Jesus is absolutely indispensable to the Christian's prayer life. However, asking others to pray with one is entirely appropriate and beneficial. The Apostle Paul set us an example of this by repeatedly asking for others to pray on his behalf.


what now biatch lol
 
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Ok, what's up with the insults?

Anyways, I don't see how your info justifies praying to Saints.
Paul asked people to pray on his behalf.
That is praying TO God, for his sake.
This is very similar to what Muslims do for Mohammed.
They pray to God for his sake but never pray to Mohammed

That is totally different than what Catholics are doing.
They tend to pray to Saints and not God.

The problem that I have with this is that people tend to have more faith on Saints than God.
I've seen it with my own eyes.
I've been to Mexico, every town prays to a certain Saint.
They pray to saints before praying to God, which is very puzzling to me. I asked my mom and she says that they do it because Saints tend to answer their prayers more so than God. They claim that God is too busy at times and therefore they need to pray to Saints.
 
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its right there in green man

what i found (i didnt post all of what i read but i cant find it) said that you shoulds always pray to god first but inaddition 2 u can also pray to saintswhich will pray to god 4 u cuz they don really have much else 2 do. n in case god didnt hear (cuz i don think he can hear every prayer) he will hear that saints prayer 4 u cuz they can sit there n pray all day
 
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What happened to this thread? I thought it was about the differences between two beliefs...

Nothing about religion is 100% provable. Yes things have happened miraculously and can’t be explained purely by science. But in reality, you can't prove that Jesus can't hear shit.... and you can't prove that Saints are the only messengers of prayers. (Shit you can't even prove Saints are real...theoretically)

Basically...religion is ones belief/disbelief in a higher power/being. If Miggidy wants to pray to Saints because he believes that it they deliver the message to God.... then coo. If not...then coo too... who fuckin cares?? Why does everyone on this board feel the undying need to prove others wrong?

Religion is something that is instilled in someone's soul...and I highly doubt some internet nobody is going to change that person's opinion just by arguing on a forum....

This post is not directed at anyone in particular... but IS directed to those that waste time on deferring from the POINT of a thread....
 
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@Fuckoff

Ok, I understand that.
I guess I can accept that.

But do know that it contradicts to what Jesus preached in the Gospels.

However that's not what most of the Catholic people do.
They actually sit there and pray to saints, hoping that the saint answer their prayers.
It is by God's will that the early apostles healed people.
Everything is done by God's will.
I think these people have a hard time understanding that....
 
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verbal kevlar said:
What happened to this thread? I thought it was about the differences between two beliefs...

Nothing about religion is 100% provable. Yes things have happened miraculously and can’t be explained purely by science. But in reality, you can't prove that Jesus can't hear shit.... and you can't prove that Saints are the only messengers of prayers. (Shit you can't even prove Saints are real...theoretically)
I'm only going off of what the bible says.
My problem is with people who add their own flavor to the cooking. Why change the recipy? It was perfect the way Jesus cooked it in the first place.

You can't just take what you like from something and leave behind what you don't like.
You either take it or leave it.
You'll only be contradicting yourself and living in hypocrisy.

verbal kevlar said:

Basically...religion is ones belief/disbelief in a higher power/being. If Miggidy wants to pray to Saints because he believes that it they deliver the message to God.... then coo. If not...then coo too... who fuckin cares?? Why does everyone on this board feel the undying need to prove others wrong?

Religion is something that is instilled in someone's soul...and I highly doubt some internet nobody is going to change that person's opinion just by arguing on a forum....

This post is not directed at anyone in particular... but IS directed to those that waste time on deferring from the POINT of a thread....
This thread asks what are the differences between Catholics and Baptists/Protestants, I believe I addressed some of the differences.