Whats some good boards that are universal with Protools
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If you're speaking control surfaces, the Command|8 is the only thing that is made by Digidesign that will run with Pro Tools for that price (correct me if I'm wrong). Suggested retail from Digidesign's website is $1295, Guitar Center has it for $1149. I caught mine on sale at Guitar Center for a little over $1100 (with taxes). I'm sure they be having a 4th Of July sale.
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check that tascam thats a nice board but i might go over budget with that when buying the meter bridge and some accessories but i will keep that in mind!!
gear im working with
avalon vt-737
mbox 2 pro*(but switchin to my digi003)
dbx
and a few other things!!!
somthing that can compliment my style of music which is SOul/R&B and some hiphop
what about these analog
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MG32-14FX/
*yamaha mg32
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ZED436/
^allen & heath Zed436
gear im working with
avalon vt-737
mbox 2 pro*(but switchin to my digi003)
dbx
and a few other things!!!
somthing that can compliment my style of music which is SOul/R&B and some hiphop
what about these analog
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MG32-14FX/
*yamaha mg32
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ZED436/
^allen & heath Zed436
Tascam is very universal...a grip of options while the certain controllers are just that....also buy it used...save alot of money and meter bridge is not necessary at all...I know someone with one its a pretty big board...even the dm4800 the box that it comes in is enormous...Dont waste your time with the MG by yamaha..I have the MG16..its cool for my use..but nothing to write home about..the tascam has fully automated faders..I like this because as your studio grows it will keep up with it..meaning all the inputs etc....
Again the yamaha and especially the Allen and Heath are more suited for live performance mixing....they can still be used but if you aiming for quality recording..Id say get something else.....the onyx is alright but the tascam is everything the onyx wish it was...but depending on your needs..such as
1.how many inputs do you need?
2. do you use any hardware such as keyboards..drum machines...midi sound modules?
3. Will you be recording Guitar or live bass\
4.Will you be mixing in the box or out....and if in the box do you understand the difference a summing mixer may have..like a neve 8816 ( big difference) or just running the final mix out the computer into a nice eq or pre amp for some analog warmth via harmonic distortion to give the perception of a wider stereo field? and running that final mix into a master recorder such as a masterlink or tascam dvr10009 I think thats the model)
whether you answered yes or no is not as important as the ability to take those options on if you feel like instead of reconfiguring your sale by selling and buying different shit.
1.how many inputs do you need?
2. do you use any hardware such as keyboards..drum machines...midi sound modules?
3. Will you be recording Guitar or live bass\
4.Will you be mixing in the box or out....and if in the box do you understand the difference a summing mixer may have..like a neve 8816 ( big difference) or just running the final mix out the computer into a nice eq or pre amp for some analog warmth via harmonic distortion to give the perception of a wider stereo field? and running that final mix into a master recorder such as a masterlink or tascam dvr10009 I think thats the model)
whether you answered yes or no is not as important as the ability to take those options on if you feel like instead of reconfiguring your sale by selling and buying different shit.
^^50 cal you info is helpin me out greatley thanks
ok so pretty much the tascam i may be going for i will sooner or later need to record a guitar or somthing in that nature!!!
so pretty much your saying that i dont need that meter!! its not a big deal???
and yes i will be throwing in keyboards the whole 9
but 50 is their any other boards that you can name that is good for under 3000??? gota be somthing cuz im just trying to run my numbers i gotta get the new phantom, another mic and this for all under 6000 dont think it will happen i add it up to GC price and its over 7k
ok so pretty much the tascam i may be going for i will sooner or later need to record a guitar or somthing in that nature!!!
so pretty much your saying that i dont need that meter!! its not a big deal???
and yes i will be throwing in keyboards the whole 9
but 50 is their any other boards that you can name that is good for under 3000??? gota be somthing cuz im just trying to run my numbers i gotta get the new phantom, another mic and this for all under 6000 dont think it will happen i add it up to GC price and its over 7k
Get a used Fantom X the fantom G is nice dont get me wrong but the fantom x is exapandable accepts expansion cards and is more then enough to do R&B...trust me you get the fantom G and in less then a year they will be advertising the fantom Next Gen.....so it has to stop some where and this is an easy compromise..because the fantom x as i said is very respectable....also are you getting the 61 keys? if not...why unless you gonna perform with it...Buy used whenever you can you will save alot...the tascam board you may want to buy from GC so if there is a problem..you aint gotta do too much..or in 30 days if you dont like it you can get your money back....other boards...Not that i would consider especially at this price range..this is the best Choice in my opinion it has lots of inputs and outputs...which other routes can cost you a grip like apogee convertors etc...
If you do all of your gain-staging properly all you need is a peak indicator on the way in. Other than that, all you really need to do is leave the fader at 0 and control the gain and that's that. As far as output and mixing, if you do mix on board, then a master meter is good enough. You can always start conservative and pull the volume up at the end. Control your loudness with the monitor knob, not the faders and you'll find that you'll need meters less and less as time goes on.
man talked to dude at GC today he said a good alternative is the Mackie Universal lol thats really a piece of shit!!!
i may just have to step my game up on that tascam board but will i need nething extra??? or just the tascam board will be enuff?????help with that and i may just have to mess with it!!!
i may just have to step my game up on that tascam board but will i need nething extra??? or just the tascam board will be enuff?????help with that and i may just have to mess with it!!!
ask yourself how are you gonna get the sounds from the mixer output into your computer to record in pro tools? do you have or plan on buying another interface? If not you will probably want to purchase the firewire card which goes for about 400....well worth it because this allows you to record 24 channels at once to pro tools or logic or whatever you run. I really think this is really the machine you wont regret. The tascam dm24 was used by pros and got great reviews...I almost bought one..but that model had some limits and technology has advanced..so with the dm3200 and 4800 they made great improvements...Older models people use are the mackie d8b awsome machine and found really cheap but they have issues as theyve gotten older and zer support...panasonic da7 its cool I have a friend with two, but its older and not half as good as the dm series. The yamaha o2r was a good machine, then they upgraded to the o2r96 still good but pricey the smaller o1v96 is alright as well..but again the tascam is more advanced and features plus it comes loaded....some models they only give you 8 analog inputs and 2 stereo..you have to pay for more inputs and outs as expansions such as the adat cards even pay for FX cards...the tascam has it all and still offers some expnasions....so it doesnt get much better then this at your price range. the control surfaces like the mackie HUI are cool if you doing all music in the computer no keyboards etc..and they still would work..but you would have to spend a few thousand or so for an interface with only 16 inputs ( a good one ) so this makes more sense and is flexible.
Basically the in the box VS out the box debate has been ongoing. It deals with producers who use computers to record music.....so some mix in the computer and print or burn to a c.d. Some are critical of this and feel the digital realm is too sterile...so dependent on how many out puts there interface has they run audio out through that...If they have an apogee with 16 outs...if they have 48 tracks they may group sounds together and assign them to an individual output...they run the outputs to a summing buss.( usually a line type mixer..check the neve 8816..but could be their favorite mixer) then they mix using the anaolg circuitry of the summing buss or mixer and if they have great convertors they may record what comes out the stereo outpust on the summing buss back into the computer or just to a masterlink or something like that. Bob Katz says that you will get the same benefits if you just mix in the box run the final out the computer through stereo outs and into a dope EQ or Mic Pre...and then back into computer or master link...the problem with running it back into the computer is its been said if you have cheap convertors for you AD...then it may not get best results....thats why you can run it into a masterlink..used they run about 400 and the convertors are pretty good.
^^^50 cal you have convinced me lol!!! i just wanna make sure i get a excellent mixer which i can have for years and expand!!
and if the quality of the channels is as good as you say i trust your opinion
i willhave to sacrafice a few things for now but in 2 months i can get it
so it looks like the tascam mixer and a keyboard
i will put the mic on hold for now i got a st66 and had a akg c12 i belive and it was shitty and broke!!
any input on mics under 1000???
blueberry, nueman tlm103 ???
SO 50 CAL ALL I WILL NEED IS TO BUY THE FIREWIRE ADAPTER FOR ABOUT 400 AND THE TASCAM?? AND ITS GOOD TO GO!!!??
and if the quality of the channels is as good as you say i trust your opinion
i willhave to sacrafice a few things for now but in 2 months i can get it
so it looks like the tascam mixer and a keyboard
i will put the mic on hold for now i got a st66 and had a akg c12 i belive and it was shitty and broke!!
any input on mics under 1000???
blueberry, nueman tlm103 ???
SO 50 CAL ALL I WILL NEED IS TO BUY THE FIREWIRE ADAPTER FOR ABOUT 400 AND THE TASCAM?? AND ITS GOOD TO GO!!!??