WHATS CONSIDERED MOVING ALOT OF UNITS IN THE INDEPENDENT SCENE?

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Feb 13, 2005
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nah i'm even going buy what yuk say i've read somewhere that his albums sell more than 40k, it was like an article or review or something! & it don't suprise me cuz the dude has hella fans everywhere plus he's also from a platinum plus group! so selling 100, 000, 200,000 isn't suprising! to me that's already low for yuk he should be doing more! but 40k is definitely to me suprisingly low! especially from an established artist like yuk.
 

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PSycho: Yuk's first solo fell short of GOLD at like 220K units with a double album. As for his Thug Testatment it did over 100K but Godzilla did like 60K or 70K and the comps did like 40K each. That's still very impressive considering Rap A Lot has been indie for sometime
 
Jan 24, 2004
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PressPlay Prod. said:
they probably was making 10 because they probably didnt have any publishing deals, even most mainstream artist dont make 10$ on a cd, then theres this thing about artist getiing paid in cents maybe thats from royalties not to sure.......but i think yal forget that even with all these artist record sales, they still have other people to payout. so itsn ot all glits and glory like yal think
good point but half these niggas aint never gonna understand
 

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"WHATS CONSIDERED MOVING ALOT OF UNITS IN THE INDEPENDENT SCENE?"

you also have to factor in "Geography" before just throwing out a number....some areas have a larger audience for rap music so the artist in that area will consider a larger amount of sales to be a success compared to places that dont have a large rap market.

for example: im pretty sure if you ask that question to an artist in Hawaii and to an artist in Atlanta Georgia, the artist from atlanta will probably have a larger number because his area has a larger rap market
 

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PressPlay: I think you are terribly misinformed. I dont beleive any artist, indi or major gets $10.00 a unit. That is about what the wholesaler sells the product to retail for and then retail has the largest mark up of anyone in the food chain. I have heard of some indie atists getting between $8 and $9 but that is rare and they have to be hot artists as well as be willing to have their album at $18.98 in the stores. I think you will find that most people, like Vince V. said are getting between $6 and $8 and that's gross not net. Pressing and other costs of marketing and production have to be recouped.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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PressPlay Prod. said:
but he was tellin me that cats like tizzle in stockton gets only so much off the sale

Tizzle gets more money from sellin to a mom & pop (in stockton) cus he sells'em direct.cuts out the middle man (city hall),plus him and his brother own their label.......
 
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Myth #2: That your favorite artists are sell 20K and up independently. Not true. Last year Keak Da Sneak, and Meesy brok 20K independently. Turf Talk, The Frontline, and The Team all broke 5 to 10K. Yuk averages about 40K a project. Not too many people are selling what they claim.
WRONG!!! LOOK PLAYA I DONT KNOW WHERE YOU GET YOUR FUCKING FACTS FROM you prolly just made em up while you was typing it up BUT YOU JUST POSTED THE MOST STUPID COMMENT I EVER HEARD SO YOU SAYING YUKS SOLOS SOLD 40K?? YOU TALKING ABOUT YUKS SIDE PROJECTS MAYB(LIKE UGA AND SHIT) HOMIE NOT HIS SOLOS!! I FUCK WITH SOME PEOPLE AROUND YUK. I PERSONALLY CAN GIVE A FUK BUT ITS STUPID SHIT LIKE THIS THAT MAKES ME THINK HOW CAN SOME PEOPLE BE SO STUPID. I DONT GO OFF WHAT COMES OUTTA YUKS MOUTH I GO OFF OFF SOUNDSCAN AND WHAT PEOPLE AROUND HIS CAMP TELL ME. SO TO REPLY ON YOU HELL NAWWWWWWWWWWW GET YA FACTS STR8 PLAYA. AND MESS DIDNT BREAK NO FUCKING 20K LOL lol lol lol
 
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Lmfao at the dude that said yuk sells 40k since i know for a fact his 1st solo sold 500.000 copies and it was treated as a single cd and his next 2 solos sold 400k up! Mess last albums sold 100k and up plzzz believe that folks!! Some ceo or industrydude needs to get in this post and school the shit outta b-12. B-12s post had me cracking the fuck up lol
 
Mar 13, 2005
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B-12 said:
Myth #2: That your favorite artists are sell 20K and up independently. Not true. Last year Keak Da Sneak, and Meesy brok 20K independently. Turf Talk, The Frontline, and The Team all broke 5 to 10K. Yuk averages about 40K a project. Not too many people are selling what they claim.
Not to knock you or eything playa but you givin niggaz wrong info. I dont know about the team, keak, frontline and them but what i do know is that yuks solos all end up sellin 400k and up. And mess moved atleast 100k with disobayish alone!! Its just that you post like you know the all inside scoop but my sources are pretty legit my nig, again i aint knocking ya but that shit on yuk and mess was not true.
 
Feb 4, 2005
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PressPlay Prod. said:
they probably was making 10 because they probably didnt have any publishing deals, even most mainstream artist dont make 10$ on a cd, then theres this thing about artist getiing paid in cents maybe thats from royalties not to sure.......but i think yal forget that even with all these artist record sales, they still have other people to payout. so itsn ot all glits and glory like yal think
True, everybody got people to pay and feed the camp and shit. And i dont think any Mainstream artist makes $10 on a cd. Plus if you on a major you handing alot more money out after you get paid aswell.
 
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Lol @ yuk selling 40 k. first of all yuk isn on his own independent label he is on rapalot wich was ditributed by EMI and just recently signed a deal with Warner.Anyway check the soundscans! And there are sites that will confirm it too. Also check an old interview with J prince (rapalot ceo) where he talks about sales.
 
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You muthaphuckas are on one. If anybody would know what niggaz is really sellin it is B-12. If he says that an artist is sellin a certain # of units he is gettin that information from soundscan because he has direct access to it which I'm sure from your posts that nobody else who has posted on this thread has. This is the nigga that used to run Bayside with Rob Nonies. You muthaphuckas make me laugh challengin what he sayin and tryin to say he dont know shit. I've seen the soundscans on Yuk straight from soundscan itself and the numbers 12 is sayin is right. And dont believe artists cause they will make their #s balloon up. Messy claimed to have pushed over 20K+ of Turf Politics in Murder Dog but in reality on soundscan it was around 10K. If we all had access to soundscan we would be alot smarter about who sells what cause it would surprise alot of people what these artists is sellin in the Bay.
 
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SLEEPYSANTINO said:
You muthaphuckas are on one. If anybody would know what niggaz is really sellin it is B-12. If he says that an artist is sellin a certain # of units he is gettin that information from soundscan because he has direct access to it which I'm sure from your posts that nobody else who has posted on this thread has. This is the nigga that used to run Bayside with Rob Nonies. You muthaphuckas make me laugh challengin what he sayin and tryin to say he dont know shit. I've seen the soundscans on Yuk straight from soundscan itself and the numbers 12 is sayin is right. And dont believe artists cause they will make their #s balloon up. Messy claimed to have pushed over 20K+ of Turf Politics in Murder Dog but in reality on soundscan it was around 10K. If we all had access to soundscan we would be alot smarter about who sells what cause it would surprise alot of people what these artists is sellin in the Bay.
For real...B-12 prolly put out EVERYONES favorite artist at one time or another in the last 5 years...so muthafuckas need to cut the crap...its like yall are tellin the Pope about God....lol....