What is your plan to make it in the music business today ? (For all indi artist on t)
- Thread starter Slapmaster Promo
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u mean his itunes sales , who fuckin listens to lil wayne ? i myself have never bought a album of his .. slapmaster asked a question and i answered it . u dont have to like wha i said .from what it looks like im the only one who really touched on the question .it was my personal answer why "im" not droppin my album ..look at xraided he raps from "prison" and majority of the responses to him is. "i dont like his sound now " or he doesnt flow to the beat" or i like his older stuff ! the fans should be happy wit what they get , niggas act like its easy to rap from jail ! like i said i rather support someone who really cares about they music then me who can do it all day for free . i dont have to pay for beats or verses from anyone .. im a fan FIRST! its hard enough for the artist i listen to , to sale albums now a days with people like u on lil waynes dick , i support majority of bay area artist i have never bought a cd from a artist outside of the bay ! can u say the same ?
slap - i know u didnt take it as a jab , im just sayn my comment wasent negative towards u , i just used you as a example cause u made the thread . i went to a mr cee concert in 95 i was about 13 i been around the bay area rap scene i know who indcent & krypto was before siccness ! i just meant that ap helped u with alot of your fan base now! not all but some and u answered it like i new u would ... respect!
slap - i know u didnt take it as a jab , im just sayn my comment wasent negative towards u , i just used you as a example cause u made the thread . i went to a mr cee concert in 95 i was about 13 i been around the bay area rap scene i know who indcent & krypto was before siccness ! i just meant that ap helped u with alot of your fan base now! not all but some and u answered it like i new u would ... respect!
i look at it like there are several reasons why its harder to get paid nowadays not only as an artist but just in general including a 9-5. our economic future looks very uncertain imo. so i plan on keep doing what ive been doing but also stepping it up a notch in regards to getting better features and artwork for my albums, releasing more singles, start knocking out some music videos and just spending more time to fine tune each track to my liking. on the flip side........ i'm cutting out all the things i feel have been not worth my time and effort.
More people gotta be who they really are and stop trying to act like something they are not. Try to get fans not just in the bay but all over... an example is Living Legends and Hieroglyphics, they get shows all over the world, they don't have a huge label behind them but they know there fans and they tour alot and make albums that there fans like, they are very loyal. They put on good shows with alot of energy and for the most part seem very down to earth. Also both those groups have been around for years and steady gettign more fans world wide.
You dont need a huge record deal to do well in rap music, just gotta hit the fans with what they like (good music and great shows).
Anyways just my two cents.
You dont need a huge record deal to do well in rap music, just gotta hit the fans with what they like (good music and great shows).
Anyways just my two cents.
Agreed.
IMO it comes down to making quality music that sounds good and discussing topics that people can relate to, regardless is its mob muzik or pop music. If the only thing you are trying to gain is "listens" as opposed to connecting with your audience, you're missing out on the big picture.
Take care of the people first and they'll take care of you.
IMO it comes down to making quality music that sounds good and discussing topics that people can relate to, regardless is its mob muzik or pop music. If the only thing you are trying to gain is "listens" as opposed to connecting with your audience, you're missing out on the big picture.
Take care of the people first and they'll take care of you.
On the real, IT STARTS WITH A PLAN!If an individual decides to release an album independently, he/she should really sit down and develop a game plan/approach. The biggest factor, imo, is the type of budget you are working with. That seperates the businessmen from the hobbyists.
Music is a risky business investment regardless of your talent level. IMO, you need to start with x amount of dollars as an investment, ie, not expecting a return for a few years. How will you spend x amount of dollars to create and sell your product? Can you turn lets say $10,000 into 15-20k giving your next project a bigger budget? Obviously there are many other variables involved in this equation, but I am sure you get the picture.
If you are trying to cover a few cities, it still requires a plan to obtain the results/revenue you are looking for so you can expand geographically with your music. Throwing together songs, buying some flyers/posters and doing a few shows here and there is not a plan.
Everyone is doing the same shit is why there is no growth, imo. No doubt everyone starts independent to some degree, but nowadays an independent is a person with a full time day job and a "music business" on the side. Technology created this monster. I am not knocking it, I am just saying part timing anything does not create full time results.
Be patient and learn the business side of things before jumping in. When I say business side, I am just talking basic small business practices. If your business plan is good, good/shitty music sells.lol. The proof is in the pudding....
Music is a risky business investment regardless of your talent level. IMO, you need to start with x amount of dollars as an investment, ie, not expecting a return for a few years. How will you spend x amount of dollars to create and sell your product? Can you turn lets say $10,000 into 15-20k giving your next project a bigger budget? Obviously there are many other variables involved in this equation, but I am sure you get the picture.
If you are trying to cover a few cities, it still requires a plan to obtain the results/revenue you are looking for so you can expand geographically with your music. Throwing together songs, buying some flyers/posters and doing a few shows here and there is not a plan.
Everyone is doing the same shit is why there is no growth, imo. No doubt everyone starts independent to some degree, but nowadays an independent is a person with a full time day job and a "music business" on the side. Technology created this monster. I am not knocking it, I am just saying part timing anything does not create full time results.
Be patient and learn the business side of things before jumping in. When I say business side, I am just talking basic small business practices. If your business plan is good, good/shitty music sells.lol. The proof is in the pudding....
I have very little to add. I only want to emphasize the word PLAN, again. You need to have planS. The final part of a plan is an expected outcome. I think that most people that are rapping now days don't have any specific goals in mind (number of fans to gain, number of records to sell, ect.). When you start getting specific, you start to see what is realistic and not realistic before you start to move.
All this being said, no one has posted a plan (biz, marketing, or otherwise), so I hope all you rappers are working on one now. And, for the sake of growth, please try to be more respectful of your criticisms of peoples ideas, it makes it more comfortable for them to share.
plan [noun]
1. a scheme or method of acting, doing, proceeding, making, etc., developed in advance: battle plans.
2. a design or scheme of arrangement: an elaborate plan for seating guests.
3. a specific project or definite purpose: plans for the future.
4. Also called plan view. a drawing made to scale to represent the top view or a horizontal section of a structure or a machine, as a floor layout of a building.
All this being said, no one has posted a plan (biz, marketing, or otherwise), so I hope all you rappers are working on one now. And, for the sake of growth, please try to be more respectful of your criticisms of peoples ideas, it makes it more comfortable for them to share.
plan [noun]
1. a scheme or method of acting, doing, proceeding, making, etc., developed in advance: battle plans.
2. a design or scheme of arrangement: an elaborate plan for seating guests.
3. a specific project or definite purpose: plans for the future.
4. Also called plan view. a drawing made to scale to represent the top view or a horizontal section of a structure or a machine, as a floor layout of a building.
We would have blown up if it wasnt for the haters holding us back...we got a banging ass album but since foilks be hatin we gonna just keep it to ourselves. Its a multi platinum album with hella bangers on it but we aint finna just give it away. nobody wanted to pay the 6 figures we were asking for it, and since cats dont wanna pay for our features we decided to quit rap because of all the hate. We're actually the most talented group in the bay but we keep our talent hidden because people wont respect our gangster and dont know good music.
besides, the entire bay is trippin and doesnt know good music, nobody feels our album because they aint on our level and cant understand it the dopeness....so they hate on it and call us weak..
they only say the album is weak because they know its the hardest shit out and they dont wanna see us shine....i dont care what everbody that listened to it says, our shit is HOT!!!...so fuck the haters we gone keep makin boss moves.
besides, the entire bay is trippin and doesnt know good music, nobody feels our album because they aint on our level and cant understand it the dopeness....so they hate on it and call us weak..
they only say the album is weak because they know its the hardest shit out and they dont wanna see us shine....i dont care what everbody that listened to it says, our shit is HOT!!!...so fuck the haters we gone keep makin boss moves.
