What is a PRODUCER?
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^^^thats true...
this is from Riq Roq's Studio Tips from the front page of the Siccness...
Producer, now that’s the most misused word in rap. This is one of the important lessons, so grab this one. Lot’s of cat’s go to studios for years attempting to record songs, make beats, record songs, make beats, etc. Hours and hours of production, but little to show for it. After years they finally come up with an album, why? Because somewhere along the way, they acquired production skills. Through trial and error, they have learned to produce. Maybe even become producers.
A producer is not what you might think it is. A producer is a person who produces something, whether you had a pizza delivered to me or you hand flipped the dough and baked the shit yourself, if you got it to me, you are the producer. Now that I made that seemingly useless analogy let me go back. The cats that come in the studio and are successful are the one’s that are produced. This means someone was in charge and over saw the project from concept to CD. This person took the vision and made it happen. For some this comes easy, for some it takes a lot of hard work and concentration. This person can be anyone from the person who made the beat to the rapper or singer, to someone who isn’t even on the song. In some instances the producer is the artist or group such as DJ Quick or Missie Elliot and sometimes artist hire outside "ears" to get it done. Digital recorded D’Angelo’s debut album and D’Angelo initiated most of the song writing and musicianship, but the record company hired Raphael Saadiq to produce it, to put a vision together. A skilled engineer was hired (Digital), so it would come out to perfection. To build a house, you need the right materials, labor, and plan. To make a record you need a producer.
i couldn't agree more...
this is from Riq Roq's Studio Tips from the front page of the Siccness...
Producer, now that’s the most misused word in rap. This is one of the important lessons, so grab this one. Lot’s of cat’s go to studios for years attempting to record songs, make beats, record songs, make beats, etc. Hours and hours of production, but little to show for it. After years they finally come up with an album, why? Because somewhere along the way, they acquired production skills. Through trial and error, they have learned to produce. Maybe even become producers.
A producer is not what you might think it is. A producer is a person who produces something, whether you had a pizza delivered to me or you hand flipped the dough and baked the shit yourself, if you got it to me, you are the producer. Now that I made that seemingly useless analogy let me go back. The cats that come in the studio and are successful are the one’s that are produced. This means someone was in charge and over saw the project from concept to CD. This person took the vision and made it happen. For some this comes easy, for some it takes a lot of hard work and concentration. This person can be anyone from the person who made the beat to the rapper or singer, to someone who isn’t even on the song. In some instances the producer is the artist or group such as DJ Quick or Missie Elliot and sometimes artist hire outside "ears" to get it done. Digital recorded D’Angelo’s debut album and D’Angelo initiated most of the song writing and musicianship, but the record company hired Raphael Saadiq to produce it, to put a vision together. A skilled engineer was hired (Digital), so it would come out to perfection. To build a house, you need the right materials, labor, and plan. To make a record you need a producer.
i couldn't agree more...
^^^^^^^^ damn right. i noticed something about PRODUCERS. especially the ones who have blown up or are in the process of blowing up. each of them has BUSINESS savy,SKILLS when it comes to playing,skills when it comes to studio tech and skills when it comes down to vocals and performing. basically they are NOT one dimensional.........
which is why i chose to touchdown on every aspect of the game also.......
which is why i chose to touchdown on every aspect of the game also.......
producer
when im in the studio and we're mixing down a song i usually decided what noises and or sounds need to be turned up or down or if it needs more 808 . now im a producer says cats like digital. only i dont know shit about makin a beat . but then theres other people who say what i do is called being an arranger .????
but now i also finance projects ,set up studio time buy beats ,
make contacts , get covers started , get pictures taken, order promo ,do mail outs,make shirts,post on boards , press up cds,
arrange transportation,keep fliers & posters in record stores ,and try and keep artist out of trouble and make deadlines so that makes me an executive producer/c.e.o
confused yet ????????????
yeah me too so just buy my damn album okay
when im in the studio and we're mixing down a song i usually decided what noises and or sounds need to be turned up or down or if it needs more 808 . now im a producer says cats like digital. only i dont know shit about makin a beat . but then theres other people who say what i do is called being an arranger .????
but now i also finance projects ,set up studio time buy beats ,
make contacts , get covers started , get pictures taken, order promo ,do mail outs,make shirts,post on boards , press up cds,
arrange transportation,keep fliers & posters in record stores ,and try and keep artist out of trouble and make deadlines so that makes me an executive producer/c.e.o
confused yet ????????????
yeah me too so just buy my damn album okay
LOGIC IS NOT ON YOUR SIDE PAL. ITS OBVIOUS THAT YOU DONT KNOW THE GAME. PROBABLY NEVER HAVE.....MOST LIKELY NEVER WILL.....THEY SAY A FOOL AND HIS MONEY IS SOON PARTED......KEEP THAT IN MIND.
NOW LOGICALLY WHAT DOES ASCAP AND BMI CALL A PERSON WHO "MAKES" OR "CREATES" MUSIC? THEY CALL THAT PERSON A ***COMPOSER*** AND HE OR SHE GETS ROYALTIES.
A PRODUCER MAY COMPOSE BUT HE OR SHE DOESNT HAVE TO. BASICALLY WHEN A LABEL SEEKS A PRODUCER HE IS A "HIRED GUN" SO TO SPEAK. TO TAKE THE PROJECT TO THE NEXT LEVEL BUT OF COURSE YOU KNEW THAT RIGHT??????? YOU HAVE A *PROFESSIONAL* ENGINEER ON THIS BOARD (RIQ ROQ) WHO HAS STATED WHAT A PRODUCER IS. HIS VERSION IS DIFFERENT FROM YOUR LUNACY FILLED VERSION BUT WHATEVER......ALL I KNOW IS I HAVE MY PAPERWORK FILLED OUT. FROM ASCAP TO SR FORMS. NO "POOR MANS COPYRIGHT". NEXT THING YOUR GONNA TELL ME THAT YOUR ALLOWED STATUATORY DAMAGES IF ..........NAW FORGET IT WHATS THE USE.......
HERE READ THIS. HERE IS AN EXCERPT FROM A BOOK. ITS CALLED
"ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE MUSIC BUSINESS" THE AUTHOR IS DONALD S.PASSMAN
HERE IS WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT A PRODUCER.WE WILL TAKE THE WORDS OF AN IDUSTRY INSIDER WHO HAS BEEN IN THE GAME FOR 20 PLUS YEARS. AN INSIDER WHO HAS WORKED WITH PLATINUM ARTISTS,COMPOSERS AND MAJOR LABELS. AN INSIDER WHO IS ALSO A HARVARD GRADUATE. LETS TAKE THE VERSION OF AN EXPERT AND SEE WHOS SIDE LOGIC IS ON.
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A RECORD PRODUCER'S ROLE COMBINES THE ROLES OF DIRECTOR AND PRODUCER IN THE MOTION PICTURE FIELD. HE OR SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING AND BRINGING THE CREATIVE PRODUCT INTO TANGIBLE FORM (A RECORDING), WHICH MEANS (A) BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR MAXIMIZING THE CREATIVE PROCESS (FINDING AND SELECTING SONGS, DECIDING ON ARRANGEMENTS, GETTTING THE RIGHT VOCAL SOUND, HIRING MUSICIANS, STAYING WITHIN THE BUDGET, FILING UNION REPORTS, ETC.). NOW I SAID 99% OF THAT **BEFORE** I EVEN POSTED WHAT HE WROTE IN A BOOK......BEFORE I EVEN LOOKED IN THE BOOK.......
THEY SAY YOU CAN LEARN A LOT FROM A DUMMY......I WONDER WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM TADOU????? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
ITS OBVIOUS THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE A LIMITED CAPICITY IN THIS AREA.....SURROUND YOURSELF WITH *BUSINESS* MINDED PEOPLE INSTEAD OF WANNA BE RAPPERS AND FRUITY LOOP WIZARDS........
PLEASE LEARN THE GAME.
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AND IM STILL GREEN IM STILL A "NEWBIE"
NOW LOGICALLY WHAT DOES ASCAP AND BMI CALL A PERSON WHO "MAKES" OR "CREATES" MUSIC? THEY CALL THAT PERSON A ***COMPOSER*** AND HE OR SHE GETS ROYALTIES.
A PRODUCER MAY COMPOSE BUT HE OR SHE DOESNT HAVE TO. BASICALLY WHEN A LABEL SEEKS A PRODUCER HE IS A "HIRED GUN" SO TO SPEAK. TO TAKE THE PROJECT TO THE NEXT LEVEL BUT OF COURSE YOU KNEW THAT RIGHT??????? YOU HAVE A *PROFESSIONAL* ENGINEER ON THIS BOARD (RIQ ROQ) WHO HAS STATED WHAT A PRODUCER IS. HIS VERSION IS DIFFERENT FROM YOUR LUNACY FILLED VERSION BUT WHATEVER......ALL I KNOW IS I HAVE MY PAPERWORK FILLED OUT. FROM ASCAP TO SR FORMS. NO "POOR MANS COPYRIGHT". NEXT THING YOUR GONNA TELL ME THAT YOUR ALLOWED STATUATORY DAMAGES IF ..........NAW FORGET IT WHATS THE USE.......
HERE READ THIS. HERE IS AN EXCERPT FROM A BOOK. ITS CALLED
"ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE MUSIC BUSINESS" THE AUTHOR IS DONALD S.PASSMAN
HERE IS WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT A PRODUCER.WE WILL TAKE THE WORDS OF AN IDUSTRY INSIDER WHO HAS BEEN IN THE GAME FOR 20 PLUS YEARS. AN INSIDER WHO HAS WORKED WITH PLATINUM ARTISTS,COMPOSERS AND MAJOR LABELS. AN INSIDER WHO IS ALSO A HARVARD GRADUATE. LETS TAKE THE VERSION OF AN EXPERT AND SEE WHOS SIDE LOGIC IS ON.
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A RECORD PRODUCER'S ROLE COMBINES THE ROLES OF DIRECTOR AND PRODUCER IN THE MOTION PICTURE FIELD. HE OR SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING AND BRINGING THE CREATIVE PRODUCT INTO TANGIBLE FORM (A RECORDING), WHICH MEANS (A) BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR MAXIMIZING THE CREATIVE PROCESS (FINDING AND SELECTING SONGS, DECIDING ON ARRANGEMENTS, GETTTING THE RIGHT VOCAL SOUND, HIRING MUSICIANS, STAYING WITHIN THE BUDGET, FILING UNION REPORTS, ETC.). NOW I SAID 99% OF THAT **BEFORE** I EVEN POSTED WHAT HE WROTE IN A BOOK......BEFORE I EVEN LOOKED IN THE BOOK.......
THEY SAY YOU CAN LEARN A LOT FROM A DUMMY......I WONDER WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM TADOU????? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
ITS OBVIOUS THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE A LIMITED CAPICITY IN THIS AREA.....SURROUND YOURSELF WITH *BUSINESS* MINDED PEOPLE INSTEAD OF WANNA BE RAPPERS AND FRUITY LOOP WIZARDS........
PLEASE LEARN THE GAME.
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AND IM STILL GREEN IM STILL A "NEWBIE"
^^^^ THANX PIMP BUT I DONT THINK I WILL BE REPLYING TO THIS THREAD AGAIN EITHER.
TOO MUCH.......
lol@sick!!!!!! man i dont know how either but whatever.....i mean so many examples have been shown. so many names have been given......
i hope none of you talk to a BUSINESS INSIDER and you say "IM A PRODUCER".......CHANCES ARE HE IS GOING TO SAY "WHAT HAVE YOU PRODUCED?" WHEN HE ASKS THAT WHAT WILL YOUR ANSWER BE?????
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TOO MUCH.......
lol@sick!!!!!! man i dont know how either but whatever.....i mean so many examples have been shown. so many names have been given......
i hope none of you talk to a BUSINESS INSIDER and you say "IM A PRODUCER".......CHANCES ARE HE IS GOING TO SAY "WHAT HAVE YOU PRODUCED?" WHEN HE ASKS THAT WHAT WILL YOUR ANSWER BE?????
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NOOOOOOOOOOO DOUGH!!!!!!!!!!
MY FRIEND A PRODUCER IS A "RECORD PRODUCER". HE PRODUCES RECORDS ARE YOU READING WHAT IS BEING TYPED? OR HAVE YOU BEEN SNACKING ON TOO MANY PAINT CHIPS????? READ WHAT IT SAYS MAN:"HE OR SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING AND BRINGING THE CREATIVE PRODUCT INTO TANGIBLE FORM (A RECORDING), " A PRODUCER PRODUCES A RECORDING. A *COMPOSER* MAKES THE "UNDERLYING MUSIC". LET ME ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS BECAUSE IM CURIOUS RIGHT ABOUT NOW.
1. ARE YOU A MEMBER OF ASCAP OR BMI?
2.HAVE YOU REGISTERED ANY WORKS WITH S.R. FORMS?
3.HAVE YOU EVER WENT TO A MUSIC SEMINAR OR NETWORKED WITH AN EXECUTIVE OR SOMEONE WHO IS *INVOLVED* IN THE GAME?
4. HAVE YOU READ COPYRIGHT OR TRADMARK LAWS?
5.DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RECORDING CONTRACTS?
6.DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE RECORDING PROCESS?
7. DO YOU KNOW WHAT A PRODUCTION DEAL IS?
NOW BACK TO YOUR REPLY. AN "EXECUTIVE PRODUCER" FITS THE BILL. AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER CAN GET PUBLISHING FROM THE ARTIST. AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER IS SOMEONE LIKE SUGE KNIGHT. DO YOU THINK HE WAS HOLDING QUIKS HAND OR TELLING QUIK TO USE A NUEMAN ON SAFE AND SOUND? OF COURSE NOT. A PRODUCER AND AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER MAY HIRE A PRODUCER TO COME IN AND "SHAPE" THE ARTIST.
A *PRODUCER* MAY RECEIVE AN ADVANCE FROM A LABEL SO HOW IS HE AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER? A PRODUCER IS PAID FROM THE ARTISTS EARNINGS. YOU KEEP SAYING WHAT A PRODUCER DOES BUT YOU CANT ELABORATE ON HOW HE OR SHE GETS PAID. IS IT AFTER RECOUPMENT AT THE NET RATE? IS IT EVERY RECORD SOLD? IS IT "RECORD ONE"????? HOW DOES A "PRODUCER" GET PAID???????? YOU SEEM TO KNOW ALL ABOUT A PRODUCER. WHY DONT YOU SHARE SOME KNOWLEDGE WITH US.
IF YOU HAVE NEVER SAW *PRODUCED BY :BLAH BLAH BLAH
MUSIC COMPOSED BY: XYZ. THAT ONLY PROVES THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
ON THE RAPTURE ALBUM ANITA BAKER WAS THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER AND HAD 100%CONTROL OF THE ALBUM. WHAT DID SHE DO? HIRE A "PRODUCER".
HERE HIT THIS LINK:http://www.andwedanced.com/1981/qjon381.htm
DID QUINCY JONES MAKE THE "BEATS" FOR THRILLER? IF HE DIDNT WHY IS HE THE "PRODUCER"?????
A LOT OF TIMES YOU WILL SEE:
DRUMS: MIKE
VOCALS:STEVE
LEAD GUITAR :JOSEPH
BASS:LAURA
PERCUSSION: JACK
HERE LOOK AT THIS
http://home.t-online.de/home/stamil/hhdisco.htm
TAKE A LOOK AT THE PRODUCERS NAME. WHY ISNT HIS NAME LISTED WITH THE PEOPLE WHO PLAYED THE INSTRUMENTS???
THEY PRODUCE AND COMPOSE. I COMPOSED MUSIC. I HAVENT PRODUCED THE CD YET BECAUSE ITS NOT FINISHED. I AM IN THE PROCESS OF PRODUCING IT. WHEN ITS ALL SAID AND DONE IT WILL HAVE "COMPOSED AND PRODUCED BY HERESY FOR TIP TOE IS BACK PUBLISHING ASCAP".
I AM PRODUCING IT BECAUSE I DECIDED THAT I WANTED TO TRACK THE VOCALS INTO PRO TOOLS. I AM PRODUCING IT BECAUSE I WAS GIVEN A BUDGET FROM MY "SOURCE" AND I HAD TO MANAGE THE BUDGET. IT WAS MY CHOICE TO TO MIX DOWN TO REEL. IT WAS MY CHOICE TO RECORD ON AN SSL CONSOLE BUT MIX ON A NEVE. I HAVE THE SAY WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO HOW I WANT SHAD TO PLAY GUITAR ,WHAT HE SHOULD PLAY,WHEN AND WHAT GUITARS TO USE. IM THE ONE WHO GIVES THE THUMBS UP IN REGARDS TO STEREO MICING OR DIRECT RECORDING. IM THE GUY WHO GETS TO TELL THE MIX ENGINEER TO BRING UP A LEXICON VERB UNIT SO I CAN BUSS SOME SIGNALS TO IT. OR TO USE A DELAY ON A GUITAR AND PAN IT FOR A SWEEPING EFFECT.
SIMPLY MAKING A BEAT IS *NOT* PRODUCING. WHEN YOU ARE MAKING A BEAT OR HAVE MADE ONE YOU ARE COMPOSING AND HAVE COMPOSED. I DONT SMOKE. I CONSIDER THAT TO BE SORCERY. I HAVE NO REASON TO HIT YOU ON THE PM.
BOOKS DIDNT MAKE ANYONE DO ANYTHING. HATRED,RESENTMENT,SPITE, EVIL HEART AND THE LACK OF WISDOM MADE PEOPLE CRASH PLANES INTO BUILDINGS. YOU MADE REFERNCES TO "BOOKS" ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FLIGHT BOOKS OR THE QURAN? WHAT SURRAHS DO YOU KNOW? WHAT ARE THE FIVE PILLARS OF ISLAM? PLEASE ELABORATE ON YOUR STATEMENT.
DO YOU KNOW HOW FOOLISH THOSE WORDS LOOK ON THE SCREEN??????????????? I DONT BELIEVE EVRYTHING HOWEVER I DO CONSIDER THE VIEWS OF PROFESSIONALS AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND LONGER THAN YOU HAVE. I DO CONSIDER THE WORDS OF MILLIONAIRES AND THE VALID KNOWLEDGE THE BESTOW ON THOSE WHO HAVE AN OPEN EAR.
SO IM SUPPOSED TO NOT CONSIDER THE WORDS OF SOMEONE WHO HAS PROVEN THEMSELF IN THE AREA OF MUSIC?????? LMAO!!! I SHOULDNT HEED THE WORDS FROM A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN IN THE GAME 20 PLUS YEARS,HAS WORKED WITH MAJOR LABELS,BEEN INVOLVED WITH PLATINUM PROJECTS AND WHO KNOWS HIS MUSIC AND BUSINESS LAW?
YOU HAVE FIVE SONGS ON THE NET. WHO SHOULD I BELIEVE YOU OR HIM?????????
IM AN IDIOT FOR EVEN REPLYING TO YOUR SILLY LITTLE POST BUT WHATEVER MAN. REMEMBER YOUR THE GUY WITH FIVE SONGS ON THE NET. YOU KNOW EVERYTHING...........................
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"BONE HEAD PITTER PATTER FOOL DONT KNOW SHIT AND WHAT HE KNOW DONT MATTER. THE D.E. :dead:
MY FRIEND A PRODUCER IS A "RECORD PRODUCER". HE PRODUCES RECORDS ARE YOU READING WHAT IS BEING TYPED? OR HAVE YOU BEEN SNACKING ON TOO MANY PAINT CHIPS????? READ WHAT IT SAYS MAN:"HE OR SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING AND BRINGING THE CREATIVE PRODUCT INTO TANGIBLE FORM (A RECORDING), " A PRODUCER PRODUCES A RECORDING. A *COMPOSER* MAKES THE "UNDERLYING MUSIC". LET ME ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS BECAUSE IM CURIOUS RIGHT ABOUT NOW.
1. ARE YOU A MEMBER OF ASCAP OR BMI?
2.HAVE YOU REGISTERED ANY WORKS WITH S.R. FORMS?
3.HAVE YOU EVER WENT TO A MUSIC SEMINAR OR NETWORKED WITH AN EXECUTIVE OR SOMEONE WHO IS *INVOLVED* IN THE GAME?
4. HAVE YOU READ COPYRIGHT OR TRADMARK LAWS?
5.DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RECORDING CONTRACTS?
6.DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE RECORDING PROCESS?
7. DO YOU KNOW WHAT A PRODUCTION DEAL IS?
NOW BACK TO YOUR REPLY. AN "EXECUTIVE PRODUCER" FITS THE BILL. AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER CAN GET PUBLISHING FROM THE ARTIST. AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER IS SOMEONE LIKE SUGE KNIGHT. DO YOU THINK HE WAS HOLDING QUIKS HAND OR TELLING QUIK TO USE A NUEMAN ON SAFE AND SOUND? OF COURSE NOT. A PRODUCER AND AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER MAY HIRE A PRODUCER TO COME IN AND "SHAPE" THE ARTIST.
A *PRODUCER* MAY RECEIVE AN ADVANCE FROM A LABEL SO HOW IS HE AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER? A PRODUCER IS PAID FROM THE ARTISTS EARNINGS. YOU KEEP SAYING WHAT A PRODUCER DOES BUT YOU CANT ELABORATE ON HOW HE OR SHE GETS PAID. IS IT AFTER RECOUPMENT AT THE NET RATE? IS IT EVERY RECORD SOLD? IS IT "RECORD ONE"????? HOW DOES A "PRODUCER" GET PAID???????? YOU SEEM TO KNOW ALL ABOUT A PRODUCER. WHY DONT YOU SHARE SOME KNOWLEDGE WITH US.
IF YOU HAVE NEVER SAW *PRODUCED BY :BLAH BLAH BLAH
MUSIC COMPOSED BY: XYZ. THAT ONLY PROVES THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
ON THE RAPTURE ALBUM ANITA BAKER WAS THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER AND HAD 100%CONTROL OF THE ALBUM. WHAT DID SHE DO? HIRE A "PRODUCER".
HERE HIT THIS LINK:http://www.andwedanced.com/1981/qjon381.htm
DID QUINCY JONES MAKE THE "BEATS" FOR THRILLER? IF HE DIDNT WHY IS HE THE "PRODUCER"?????
A LOT OF TIMES YOU WILL SEE:
DRUMS: MIKE
VOCALS:STEVE
LEAD GUITAR :JOSEPH
BASS:LAURA
PERCUSSION: JACK
HERE LOOK AT THIS
http://home.t-online.de/home/stamil/hhdisco.htm
TAKE A LOOK AT THE PRODUCERS NAME. WHY ISNT HIS NAME LISTED WITH THE PEOPLE WHO PLAYED THE INSTRUMENTS???
THEY PRODUCE AND COMPOSE. I COMPOSED MUSIC. I HAVENT PRODUCED THE CD YET BECAUSE ITS NOT FINISHED. I AM IN THE PROCESS OF PRODUCING IT. WHEN ITS ALL SAID AND DONE IT WILL HAVE "COMPOSED AND PRODUCED BY HERESY FOR TIP TOE IS BACK PUBLISHING ASCAP".
I AM PRODUCING IT BECAUSE I DECIDED THAT I WANTED TO TRACK THE VOCALS INTO PRO TOOLS. I AM PRODUCING IT BECAUSE I WAS GIVEN A BUDGET FROM MY "SOURCE" AND I HAD TO MANAGE THE BUDGET. IT WAS MY CHOICE TO TO MIX DOWN TO REEL. IT WAS MY CHOICE TO RECORD ON AN SSL CONSOLE BUT MIX ON A NEVE. I HAVE THE SAY WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO HOW I WANT SHAD TO PLAY GUITAR ,WHAT HE SHOULD PLAY,WHEN AND WHAT GUITARS TO USE. IM THE ONE WHO GIVES THE THUMBS UP IN REGARDS TO STEREO MICING OR DIRECT RECORDING. IM THE GUY WHO GETS TO TELL THE MIX ENGINEER TO BRING UP A LEXICON VERB UNIT SO I CAN BUSS SOME SIGNALS TO IT. OR TO USE A DELAY ON A GUITAR AND PAN IT FOR A SWEEPING EFFECT.
SIMPLY MAKING A BEAT IS *NOT* PRODUCING. WHEN YOU ARE MAKING A BEAT OR HAVE MADE ONE YOU ARE COMPOSING AND HAVE COMPOSED. I DONT SMOKE. I CONSIDER THAT TO BE SORCERY. I HAVE NO REASON TO HIT YOU ON THE PM.
BOOKS DIDNT MAKE ANYONE DO ANYTHING. HATRED,RESENTMENT,SPITE, EVIL HEART AND THE LACK OF WISDOM MADE PEOPLE CRASH PLANES INTO BUILDINGS. YOU MADE REFERNCES TO "BOOKS" ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FLIGHT BOOKS OR THE QURAN? WHAT SURRAHS DO YOU KNOW? WHAT ARE THE FIVE PILLARS OF ISLAM? PLEASE ELABORATE ON YOUR STATEMENT.
DO YOU KNOW HOW FOOLISH THOSE WORDS LOOK ON THE SCREEN??????????????? I DONT BELIEVE EVRYTHING HOWEVER I DO CONSIDER THE VIEWS OF PROFESSIONALS AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND LONGER THAN YOU HAVE. I DO CONSIDER THE WORDS OF MILLIONAIRES AND THE VALID KNOWLEDGE THE BESTOW ON THOSE WHO HAVE AN OPEN EAR.
SO IM SUPPOSED TO NOT CONSIDER THE WORDS OF SOMEONE WHO HAS PROVEN THEMSELF IN THE AREA OF MUSIC?????? LMAO!!! I SHOULDNT HEED THE WORDS FROM A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN IN THE GAME 20 PLUS YEARS,HAS WORKED WITH MAJOR LABELS,BEEN INVOLVED WITH PLATINUM PROJECTS AND WHO KNOWS HIS MUSIC AND BUSINESS LAW?
YOU HAVE FIVE SONGS ON THE NET. WHO SHOULD I BELIEVE YOU OR HIM?????????
IM AN IDIOT FOR EVEN REPLYING TO YOUR SILLY LITTLE POST BUT WHATEVER MAN. REMEMBER YOUR THE GUY WITH FIVE SONGS ON THE NET. YOU KNOW EVERYTHING...........................
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"BONE HEAD PITTER PATTER FOOL DONT KNOW SHIT AND WHAT HE KNOW DONT MATTER. THE D.E. :dead:
No, a "RECORD PRODUCER" is not "aka an EXECUTIVE PRODUCER". I am not going to explain this AGAIN but I will tell you that you are wrong and you need to go do your homework on what a producer/record producer is and what an executive producer is.
I have but thats besides the point. As Heresy already stated, Im sure you have seen; produced by, drums by, keyboards by, guitar by, etc.... I wouldn't think it takes much brain power to decipher the definition of a producer from those credits.
Well.. Yes, it's probably a combination of both those reasons.
Heresy isn't the one who is having a hard time understanding what these terms mean. So far everything I've read from him is accurate and on point. Rather than try to argue, why not simply read whats been said and learn something.
This has got to be one of THE STUPIDEST comments I've seen in this thread. Industry professionals do not write books full of lies & bullshit in an evil plot to deceive & mislead the readers.
I would write more but to be honest, I've lost pretty much interest in this discussion. These concepts are not hard to understand. The shit has been explained in simple english a number of times but yet a few of you still seem stuck at square 1. I just have to chalk that up and say if you don't get it by now then you probably arn't going to get it for a while.
By the way, in the credits for Dr. Dre's 2001 album, it says "ALL SONGS PRODUCED BY DR. DRE AND MEL-MAN". Then for each individual song it lists "MUSICIAN" credits. Bass, keyboards, guitar, percussion, etc. Explain this to me...If a producer is defined by who actually played the instruments then how come those credits don't read 'ALL SONGS PRODUCED BY DR. DRE, MEL-MAN, MIKE ELIZONDO, SCOTT STORCH, CAMARA KAMBON, SEAN CRUSE, TAKU HIRANO', etc etc?
I have but thats besides the point. As Heresy already stated, Im sure you have seen; produced by, drums by, keyboards by, guitar by, etc.... I wouldn't think it takes much brain power to decipher the definition of a producer from those credits.
Well.. Yes, it's probably a combination of both those reasons.
Heresy isn't the one who is having a hard time understanding what these terms mean. So far everything I've read from him is accurate and on point. Rather than try to argue, why not simply read whats been said and learn something.
This has got to be one of THE STUPIDEST comments I've seen in this thread. Industry professionals do not write books full of lies & bullshit in an evil plot to deceive & mislead the readers.
I would write more but to be honest, I've lost pretty much interest in this discussion. These concepts are not hard to understand. The shit has been explained in simple english a number of times but yet a few of you still seem stuck at square 1. I just have to chalk that up and say if you don't get it by now then you probably arn't going to get it for a while.
By the way, in the credits for Dr. Dre's 2001 album, it says "ALL SONGS PRODUCED BY DR. DRE AND MEL-MAN". Then for each individual song it lists "MUSICIAN" credits. Bass, keyboards, guitar, percussion, etc. Explain this to me...If a producer is defined by who actually played the instruments then how come those credits don't read 'ALL SONGS PRODUCED BY DR. DRE, MEL-MAN, MIKE ELIZONDO, SCOTT STORCH, CAMARA KAMBON, SEAN CRUSE, TAKU HIRANO', etc etc?
so your going to answer your own posts?????
how long did it take you to look that up on your search engine? typical american. bashing islam and they dont know anything about it.........
irony????? lol.......ok pal......btw way i wasnt using anything against you......just pointing out the obvious.
you are incorrect. writers right lyrics. compositions are created by COMPOSERS that is the *CORRECT* TERM. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT A PRODUCER JUST MAKES THE BEAT AND THATS IT? THEY HAVE NO CONTROL????? WHY THE HELL IS QUINCY JONES THE PRODUCER OF THRILLER????????????????? PRODUCERS PRODUCE RECORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAN THEY MAKE BEATS/MUSIC? YES!!! CAN THEY WRITE? YES!!! CAN THEY ALSO PERFORM??? YES!!!!
EVERYONE CAN TELL THAT YOU DONT KNOW A THING ABOUT PRODUCERS OR CORRECT TERMINOLOGY. I HAVE ASKED OVER AND OVER FOR YOU TO TELL ME HOW A PRODUCER GETS PAID. YOU CANT DO IT BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
LOL@WHAT ARTIST DONT LIKE! LISTEN MAN IF THEY DONT LIKE IT TELL EM TO READ AND LEARN THE GAME BEFORE THEY GET WET.......the reason why they do get "FUCKED" out of credits is
1.they dont read
2.they dont learn the terminology
3.THEY DONT INCORPERATE WHAT THEY READ INTO THEIR MUSIC *BUSINESS*! THEY DONT APPLY WHAT THEY HAVE LEARNED TO THEIR PROJECTS.
I WOULD RATHER CONCERN MYSELF WITH WHO'S NAME THE *PUBLISHING* WAS IN INSTEAD OF WHO'S NAME IS LISTED ON A CD.
ACTUALLY IT SEEMS ACCURATE. DID THE "PRODUCER" MAKE ALL OF THE MUSIC? NO BECAUSE THE LIVE GUITARS WERE DONE BY SOMEONE ELSE. BESIDES GUITAR DID HE LAY EVERYTHING DOWN HIMSELF? WHO KNOWS???? IDIOTS? you must be reading your post.
NOW HERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS YOU SKIPPED OVER.
1. ARE YOU A MEMBER OF ASCAP OR BMI?
2.HAVE YOU REGISTERED ANY WORKS WITH S.R. FORMS?
3.HAVE YOU EVER WENT TO A MUSIC SEMINAR OR NETWORKED WITH AN EXECUTIVE OR SOMEONE WHO IS *INVOLVED* IN THE GAME?
4. HAVE YOU READ COPYRIGHT OR TRADMARK LAWS?
5.DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RECORDING CONTRACTS?
6.DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE RECORDING PROCESS?
7.DO YOU KNOW WHAT A PRODUCTION DEAL IS?
HERESY CAN ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS WITH A YES!!!!!!!!!!!
AND THE BONUS QUESTION
*HOW DOES A PRODUCER GET PAID???IS IT AFTER RECOUPMENT AT THE NET RATE? IS IT EVERY RECORD SOLD? IS IT "RECORD ONE"????? HOW DOES A "PRODUCER" GET PAID????????*
YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT WHAT A PRODUCER IS SO WHY DONT YOU TELL US HOW A PRODUCER GETS PAID. FORGET HOW THE CREDITS ON A CD SHOULD LOOK. BREAK DOWN HOW HE GETS PAID. LETS TALK ABOUT THAT. THATS WHAT THEY ARE IN IT FOR RIGHT? TO GET PAID AM I WRONG???? WHY DONT YOU ANSWER THE 7 QUESTIONS OR ANSWER THE BONUS.
THIS IS THE REASON WHY THE GAME IS SATURATED WITH CRAP. THIS IS THE REASON WHY JANKY CONTRACTS ARE DRAWN UP. NEW ARTIST ARE NOT TAKING THE TIME TO *STUDY* THE GAME. I DONT MEAN JUST READING A BOOK. I MEAN READING IT AND APPLYING IT TO BUSINESS. USING IT IN YOUR EVERY DAY LIFE. IF THE PROS ARE TELLING YOU ITS 90% BUSINESS 10% TALENT WHY CANT ARTISTS HEED? THIS IS THE MUSIC "BUSINESS". THIS IS A MONEY MAKING MACHINE FOR SOME. DREAM CRUSHER TO OTHERS. ITS A MONEY MAKING MACHINE TO THOSE WHO LEARN THE BUSINESS ASPECT.
IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO BE ARTICULATE AND COMMUNICATE WITH THE EXECUTIVES YOUR FINISHED.
@SICK CTFU@ LMAO!!!!!!!!
@BIG J. BIG DAWG ALL I DO IS CUT AND PASTE WHAT I WANT TO QUOTE. I HIGH LIGHT IT WITH THE LEFT MOUSE CLICK.I CUT IT WITH THE RIGHT MOUSE CLICK. AFTER THAT I CLICK THE QUOTE BUTTON AND I PASTE WHAT I CUT INTO THE QUOTE FIELD. I USE THE RIGHT CLICK AGAIN TO PASTE IT.
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you are incorrect. writers right lyrics. compositions are created by COMPOSERS that is the *CORRECT* TERM. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT A PRODUCER JUST MAKES THE BEAT AND THATS IT? THEY HAVE NO CONTROL????? WHY THE HELL IS QUINCY JONES THE PRODUCER OF THRILLER????????????????? PRODUCERS PRODUCE RECORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAN THEY MAKE BEATS/MUSIC? YES!!! CAN THEY WRITE? YES!!! CAN THEY ALSO PERFORM??? YES!!!!
EVERYONE CAN TELL THAT YOU DONT KNOW A THING ABOUT PRODUCERS OR CORRECT TERMINOLOGY. I HAVE ASKED OVER AND OVER FOR YOU TO TELL ME HOW A PRODUCER GETS PAID. YOU CANT DO IT BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
LOL@WHAT ARTIST DONT LIKE! LISTEN MAN IF THEY DONT LIKE IT TELL EM TO READ AND LEARN THE GAME BEFORE THEY GET WET.......the reason why they do get "FUCKED" out of credits is
1.they dont read
2.they dont learn the terminology
3.THEY DONT INCORPERATE WHAT THEY READ INTO THEIR MUSIC *BUSINESS*! THEY DONT APPLY WHAT THEY HAVE LEARNED TO THEIR PROJECTS.
I WOULD RATHER CONCERN MYSELF WITH WHO'S NAME THE *PUBLISHING* WAS IN INSTEAD OF WHO'S NAME IS LISTED ON A CD.
ACTUALLY IT SEEMS ACCURATE. DID THE "PRODUCER" MAKE ALL OF THE MUSIC? NO BECAUSE THE LIVE GUITARS WERE DONE BY SOMEONE ELSE. BESIDES GUITAR DID HE LAY EVERYTHING DOWN HIMSELF? WHO KNOWS???? IDIOTS? you must be reading your post.
NOW HERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS YOU SKIPPED OVER.
1. ARE YOU A MEMBER OF ASCAP OR BMI?
2.HAVE YOU REGISTERED ANY WORKS WITH S.R. FORMS?
3.HAVE YOU EVER WENT TO A MUSIC SEMINAR OR NETWORKED WITH AN EXECUTIVE OR SOMEONE WHO IS *INVOLVED* IN THE GAME?
4. HAVE YOU READ COPYRIGHT OR TRADMARK LAWS?
5.DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RECORDING CONTRACTS?
6.DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE RECORDING PROCESS?
7.DO YOU KNOW WHAT A PRODUCTION DEAL IS?
HERESY CAN ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS WITH A YES!!!!!!!!!!!
AND THE BONUS QUESTION
*HOW DOES A PRODUCER GET PAID???IS IT AFTER RECOUPMENT AT THE NET RATE? IS IT EVERY RECORD SOLD? IS IT "RECORD ONE"????? HOW DOES A "PRODUCER" GET PAID????????*
YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT WHAT A PRODUCER IS SO WHY DONT YOU TELL US HOW A PRODUCER GETS PAID. FORGET HOW THE CREDITS ON A CD SHOULD LOOK. BREAK DOWN HOW HE GETS PAID. LETS TALK ABOUT THAT. THATS WHAT THEY ARE IN IT FOR RIGHT? TO GET PAID AM I WRONG???? WHY DONT YOU ANSWER THE 7 QUESTIONS OR ANSWER THE BONUS.
THIS IS THE REASON WHY THE GAME IS SATURATED WITH CRAP. THIS IS THE REASON WHY JANKY CONTRACTS ARE DRAWN UP. NEW ARTIST ARE NOT TAKING THE TIME TO *STUDY* THE GAME. I DONT MEAN JUST READING A BOOK. I MEAN READING IT AND APPLYING IT TO BUSINESS. USING IT IN YOUR EVERY DAY LIFE. IF THE PROS ARE TELLING YOU ITS 90% BUSINESS 10% TALENT WHY CANT ARTISTS HEED? THIS IS THE MUSIC "BUSINESS". THIS IS A MONEY MAKING MACHINE FOR SOME. DREAM CRUSHER TO OTHERS. ITS A MONEY MAKING MACHINE TO THOSE WHO LEARN THE BUSINESS ASPECT.
IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO BE ARTICULATE AND COMMUNICATE WITH THE EXECUTIVES YOUR FINISHED.
@SICK CTFU@ LMAO!!!!!!!!
@BIG J. BIG DAWG ALL I DO IS CUT AND PASTE WHAT I WANT TO QUOTE. I HIGH LIGHT IT WITH THE LEFT MOUSE CLICK.I CUT IT WITH THE RIGHT MOUSE CLICK. AFTER THAT I CLICK THE QUOTE BUTTON AND I PASTE WHAT I CUT INTO THE QUOTE FIELD. I USE THE RIGHT CLICK AGAIN TO PASTE IT.
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Tadou, it's beyond me why you are still trying to argue this. Neither Heresy nor myself have this confused. You can't learn the game by reading credits from CD booklets but for some reason you think you can. If you really want to embarass yourself more than you already have, and continue with this discussion, then I strongly recommend we move it to an actual professional audio forum.
As a professional, I am telling you that you are wrong and you need to pay attention to what's being said so that you can learn what's right. Nobody is trying to mislead you. Nobody is trying to trick you into believing lies.
BEFORE you reply to this, go read this thread: http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5523&perpage=15&pagenumber=4
As a professional, I am telling you that you are wrong and you need to pay attention to what's being said so that you can learn what's right. Nobody is trying to mislead you. Nobody is trying to trick you into believing lies.
BEFORE you reply to this, go read this thread: http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5523&perpage=15&pagenumber=4
SO YOU ARE BLAMING MUSLIMS AND THE QURAN FOR CRASHING PLANES INTO BUILDINGS? QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
WHERE ARE THE AIRPORT SECURITY TAPES OF THESE MEN ENTERING THE AIRPORT,GOING THROUGH THE METAL DETECTOR CHECKPOINTS AND BOARDING THE PLANES????? BY THE WAY WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE QURAN AND TALIBAN???? GOOD MEMORY???? YOU ONLY LISTED THRE. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER TWO??????? I CANT WAIT TO HEAR YOUR ORIGINS OF THE KABBA STONE.......
"BITCH ABOUT THINGS"?????? IM NOT A TYPICAL AMERICAN MY FRIEND. YOU ARE. LOOK AT YOUR FOUL LANGUAGE,IDIOCY FILLED POSTS,ANGRY BANTER AND RAGE. NOT ONCE HAVE I CURSED AT YOU. I THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. YOU DONT. I APPLY WHAT I LEARN TO MY DAILY STRUGGLES.YOU DONT.
TADOU DID QUINCY JONES MAKE ALL THE BEATS FOR THRILLER? IF NOT WHY IS HE A PRODUCER? TADOU ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH RICK RUBINS WORK? WHY IS A PRODUCER????????
HERE ARE THE CREDITS FOR *ONE* SONG ON THRILLER
GREG PHILLINGANES: RHODES
DAVID PAICH&STEVE PORCARO: SYNTHESIZER
PAUL JACKSON: GUITAR
LOUIS JOHNSON: BASS
JEFF PORCARO: DRUMS
MICHAEL BODDICKER: EMULATOR
ARRANGMENT BY ROD TEMPERTON
PRODUCED BY: QUINCY JONES
WHAT INSTRUMENT DID QUINCY PLAY? WHAT BEAT DID HE MAKE? WHY IS HE THE PRODUCER OF THE SONG IF HE DIDNT PLAY AN INSTRUMENT?
PUBLIC ENEMY'S "APOCALYPSE 91...THE ENEMY IS BLACK" HAS THE FOLLOWING LISTED.
PRODUCED BY THE IMPERIAL GRAND MINISTERS OF FUNK: STUART ROBERTZ, CERWIN (C-DAWG) DEPPER, GARY G-WIZ AND "THE JBL"
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: THE BOMB SQUAD
INSIDE WHERE THE CREDITS ARE THIS IS WHAT IS LISTED
ADDITONAL MUSICIANS: KEYBOARDS: FRANK ABLE
GUITAR: FRED WELLS
BASS: ALL MACDOWELL
BROADWAY HORNS: ALLEN GIVENS, TYRONE GIVENS AND LORENZO WYCHE
CONGA: STEVE MOSS
ADDITONAL DRUMS: RICK GORDON
NOW I JUST LOOKED AT BOTH OF THESE CD'S THIS MORNING. THEY ARE FROM MY BROTHERS CD COLLECTION. I LISTEN TO FEW RAP ARTISTS AND I *HATE* R&B. I FOUND SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING IN THE PUBLIC ENEMY CD INSERT. THIS WAS MY *FIRST* TIME LOOKING INSIDE OF IT AND I FOUND SOMETHING THAT CHUCK D SAID WHICH WAS DIRECTED TO NEW RAPPERS
HERE ARE THE LISTINGS FOR ABOVE THE LAWS "UNCLE SAMS CURSE"
PRODUCED BY COLD 187UM, FOR BLACK OWNED ENTERTAINMENT. CO-PRODUCED BY KM.G AND K-OSS.
MUSIC ARRANGED BY COLD187UM, M.SMOOTH AND J RUSSELL.
ALL GUITARS PLAYED BY M.SMOOTH.
ALL BASS PLAYED BY J RUSSEL AND M.SMOOTH.
ALL KEYBOARDS BY COLD 187UM AND M.SMOOTH.
WHY DIDNT THE OTHER PLAYERS (WHO CONTRIBUTED TO MAKING THE BEAT) NOT GET PRODUCTION CREDITS? WHY DID PEOPLE WHO ARE *NOT* LISTED AS EVEN PLAYING A SINGLE NOTE GET CO PRODUCERS CREDIT?????????
LOOK AT LIMP BIZKIT OR KID ROCKS ALBUMS. TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE.
HERE THE CREDITS FOR SADE'S "DIAMOND LIFE".
PRODUCER: ROBIN MILLAR
VOCALS: SADE ADU
SAX AND GUITAR: STUART MATTHEWMAN
KEYBOARDS: ANDREW HALE
BASS: PAUL S DENMAN
DRUMS AND PERCUSSION: DAVE EARLY
PERCUSSION: MARTIN DITCHAM
DRUMS: PAUL COOKE
TRUMPET TERRY BAILY AND GORDON MATTHEWMAN
WHY ISNT ROBIN MILLARS NAME LISTED AS PLAYING ANY STRINGS OR GUITAR? IF THAT PERSON MADE THE BEAT WHY DOESNT IT SAY IT??????
SEE THE ABOVE. I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS AND GAVE EXAMPLES. NOW CAN YOU ANSWER MINE?
1. ARE YOU A MEMBER OF ASCAP OR BMI AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THEIR DEFINITION OF COMPOSER?
2.HAVE YOU REGISTERED ANY WORKS WITH S.R. FORMS?
3.HAVE YOU EVER WENT TO A MUSIC SEMINAR OR NETWORKED WITH AN EXECUTIVE OR SOMEONE WHO IS *INVOLVED* IN THE GAME?
4. HAVE YOU READ COPYRIGHT OR TRADMARK LAWS?
5.DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RECORDING CONTRACTS?
6.DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE RECORDING PROCESS?
7.DO YOU KNOW WHAT A PRODUCTION DEAL IS?
AND THE BONUS QUESTION
*HOW DOES A PRODUCER GET PAID???IS IT AFTER RECOUPMENT AT THE NET RATE? IS IT EVERY RECORD SOLD? IS IT "RECORD ONE"????? HOW DOES A "PRODUCER" GET PAID????????*
YOU TALK NONSENSE. THE ONLY PROOF YOU HAVE IS FROM SOMEONE WHO I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF AND WHO HAS NOT SOLD OVER 500K COPIES.
I AM NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE ARTIST. I DONT KNOW THE ARTIST HAVENT HEARD THE ARTISTS MUSIC. MAY GOD BLESS THE ARTIST AND KEEP THEM. IN FACT IF POSSIBLE I WOULD LIKE TO NETWORK WITH THE ARTIST.
HOWEVER I JUST GAVE YOU "HOUSEHOLD NAMES". NAMES THAT RING A BELL AND NAMES THAT YOU SHOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH.
IM CHEAP? THIS WILL DEBUNK YOUR PETTY INSULT. HERE IS A LIST OF EQUIPMENT THAT I HAVE IN MY HOME STUDIO.
MACKIE 24-4
VS880 EX WITH SCSI BURNER
COMPUTER 512 MB OF RAM 7200RPM HARD DRIVE AND 5400 RPM HARD DRIVE WITH DIO 24 BIT DIGITAL SOUND CARD AND PHILLIPS BURNER.
PROTEUS SOUND MODULE
DR.660 DRUM MACHINE
XP-60(FOUR EXPANSION BOARDS INSTALLED)
FENDER STRAT
FENDER BASS
MESA BOOGIE AMP
CRATE AMP
HARTKE BASS HEAD
DR-5
AKG C-1000
SHURE 58
CRY BABY WAH
ROLAND REVRB PEDAL
ROLAND DISTORTION PEDAL
ALESIS RA 100 AMP
PEAVEY 500 AMP
JBL CONTROL 1 MONITORS
JBL 4312B MONITORS
SPIRIT ABSOLUTE ZERO MONITORS
PEAVY SP5G SOUND REINFORCEMENT
KLH 5 DISC CD PLAYER
YAMAHA 10 BAND EQ(ON EACH CHANNEL)
KENWOOD KR-A3070 RECEIVER
TECHNICS RS TR575 DUAL CASSETTE DECK
2 TECHNICS TURNTABLES
NUMARK MIXER
PRESONUS BLUE TUBE
DBX 266 COMPRESSOR
SP 202 SAMPLER
AURELEX ACOUSTIC FOAM
EDJ WAS HERE THIS WEEK END AND HE CAN VOUCH FOR 75% OF THE EQUIPMENT LISTED. EVERYTHING THAT HE DIDNT GET TO SEE WAS AT PETALUMA BECAUSE I AM RECORDING HERE AND I DONT WANT TO LUG THE GEAR AROUND--->
http://www.prairiesun.com/
CLICK ON STUDIO A. THATS $65 DOLLARS AN HOUR. WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO ATTACH MY RECIEPT TO THIS DOCUMENT SO YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY HOURS I PURCHASED?
I ALSO HAVE TO PAY FOR ANALOG TAPE WHICH IS *NOT* CHEAP (I HAVE TO SPEND OVER $500 IN TAPE)!
I ALSO HAVE TO PAY FOR TAPE HEADS WHICH IS *NOT* CHEAP($75 PER TEN HOURS)!!
INSTEAD OF DOING MY ALBUM AT HOME (WHICH I COULD HAVE) I OPTED TO DO PRE PRODUCTION HERE AND SPEND MONEY MAKING IT SOUND GOOD. INSTEAD OF DOING IT BY MYSELF AND OPTED TO HAVE A "WELL KNOWN" ENGINEER GET INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT.
WHAT I WILL DO IS RECORD INTO PRO TOOLS TDM (THROUGH THE SSL BOARD) MIX ON A NEVE AND DUMP TO TAPE. AFTER THAT I WILL FLY THE TAPE BACK INTO PRO TOOLS AND GET A COPY OF ALL THE FILES.
FROM THAT POINT I WILL GO TO ONE OF THREE MASTERING STUDIOS. THEY ARE LISTED HERE IN THE STUDIO SESSION. JUST FIND THE THREAD THAT I MADE CALLED "MASTERING INFO".
THE PRICES ARE LISTED ON THE THREAD AND IT ISNT CHEAP.
NOW LIST *YOUR* EQUIPMENT AND LETS HERE HOW YOU ARE RECORDING.
SO THAT BLOWS YOUR PETTY INSULT OUT THE WATER LITTLE MAN. WHY IS IT THAT I CAN TELL MY GUITAR PLAYER WHAT TO PLAY AND WHAT NOT TO PLAY? BECAUSE I AM A MUSICIAN AND I KNOW WHAT THE HELL IM DOING. WHY CAN I TELL THE MIX ENGINEER TO USE LIMITING? BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. CAN I TELL THE ENGINEER TO NOT PAN HARD LEFT AND RIGHT BECAUSE PHASE CANCELLATION MAY OCCUR? YOU BET. WILL I OFTEN SWITCH THE MIX BACK TO MONO TO HEAR HOW IT SOUNDS? CERTAINLY? ARE YOU AN IDIOT? YES YOU ARE!
:dead:
:h:
PS PEOPLE ON *THIS* PART OF THE BOARD HAVE ASKED *ME* FOR TIPS. I HAVE *NEVER* SEEN *ANYONE* ASK "TADOU" FOR TIPS.
NO ONE HAS NEVER ASKED YOU ABOUT HOW TO HOOK EQUIPMENT UP,HOW TO PROPERLY USE FX, HOW TO PROPERLY RECORD SIGNALS ETC ETC ETC. PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD HAVE MADE SPECIFIC THREADS ASKING ME FOR HELP. NO ONE COMES TO YOU. BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING. NOW IF YOU WANT TO ELABORATE ON THE RECORDING PROCESS LETS DO IT. WE CAN TALK ABOUT EQING A REVERB SIGNAL PRE OR POST FADER. LETS DO IT AND WE WILL PROVE WHO THE WANNA BE IS........:dead:
WHERE ARE THE AIRPORT SECURITY TAPES OF THESE MEN ENTERING THE AIRPORT,GOING THROUGH THE METAL DETECTOR CHECKPOINTS AND BOARDING THE PLANES????? BY THE WAY WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE QURAN AND TALIBAN???? GOOD MEMORY???? YOU ONLY LISTED THRE. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER TWO??????? I CANT WAIT TO HEAR YOUR ORIGINS OF THE KABBA STONE.......
"BITCH ABOUT THINGS"?????? IM NOT A TYPICAL AMERICAN MY FRIEND. YOU ARE. LOOK AT YOUR FOUL LANGUAGE,IDIOCY FILLED POSTS,ANGRY BANTER AND RAGE. NOT ONCE HAVE I CURSED AT YOU. I THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. YOU DONT. I APPLY WHAT I LEARN TO MY DAILY STRUGGLES.YOU DONT.
TADOU DID QUINCY JONES MAKE ALL THE BEATS FOR THRILLER? IF NOT WHY IS HE A PRODUCER? TADOU ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH RICK RUBINS WORK? WHY IS A PRODUCER????????
HERE ARE THE CREDITS FOR *ONE* SONG ON THRILLER
GREG PHILLINGANES: RHODES
DAVID PAICH&STEVE PORCARO: SYNTHESIZER
PAUL JACKSON: GUITAR
LOUIS JOHNSON: BASS
JEFF PORCARO: DRUMS
MICHAEL BODDICKER: EMULATOR
ARRANGMENT BY ROD TEMPERTON
PRODUCED BY: QUINCY JONES
WHAT INSTRUMENT DID QUINCY PLAY? WHAT BEAT DID HE MAKE? WHY IS HE THE PRODUCER OF THE SONG IF HE DIDNT PLAY AN INSTRUMENT?
PUBLIC ENEMY'S "APOCALYPSE 91...THE ENEMY IS BLACK" HAS THE FOLLOWING LISTED.
PRODUCED BY THE IMPERIAL GRAND MINISTERS OF FUNK: STUART ROBERTZ, CERWIN (C-DAWG) DEPPER, GARY G-WIZ AND "THE JBL"
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: THE BOMB SQUAD
INSIDE WHERE THE CREDITS ARE THIS IS WHAT IS LISTED
ADDITONAL MUSICIANS: KEYBOARDS: FRANK ABLE
GUITAR: FRED WELLS
BASS: ALL MACDOWELL
BROADWAY HORNS: ALLEN GIVENS, TYRONE GIVENS AND LORENZO WYCHE
CONGA: STEVE MOSS
ADDITONAL DRUMS: RICK GORDON
NOW I JUST LOOKED AT BOTH OF THESE CD'S THIS MORNING. THEY ARE FROM MY BROTHERS CD COLLECTION. I LISTEN TO FEW RAP ARTISTS AND I *HATE* R&B. I FOUND SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING IN THE PUBLIC ENEMY CD INSERT. THIS WAS MY *FIRST* TIME LOOKING INSIDE OF IT AND I FOUND SOMETHING THAT CHUCK D SAID WHICH WAS DIRECTED TO NEW RAPPERS
HERE ARE THE LISTINGS FOR ABOVE THE LAWS "UNCLE SAMS CURSE"
PRODUCED BY COLD 187UM, FOR BLACK OWNED ENTERTAINMENT. CO-PRODUCED BY KM.G AND K-OSS.
MUSIC ARRANGED BY COLD187UM, M.SMOOTH AND J RUSSELL.
ALL GUITARS PLAYED BY M.SMOOTH.
ALL BASS PLAYED BY J RUSSEL AND M.SMOOTH.
ALL KEYBOARDS BY COLD 187UM AND M.SMOOTH.
WHY DIDNT THE OTHER PLAYERS (WHO CONTRIBUTED TO MAKING THE BEAT) NOT GET PRODUCTION CREDITS? WHY DID PEOPLE WHO ARE *NOT* LISTED AS EVEN PLAYING A SINGLE NOTE GET CO PRODUCERS CREDIT?????????
LOOK AT LIMP BIZKIT OR KID ROCKS ALBUMS. TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE.
HERE THE CREDITS FOR SADE'S "DIAMOND LIFE".
PRODUCER: ROBIN MILLAR
VOCALS: SADE ADU
SAX AND GUITAR: STUART MATTHEWMAN
KEYBOARDS: ANDREW HALE
BASS: PAUL S DENMAN
DRUMS AND PERCUSSION: DAVE EARLY
PERCUSSION: MARTIN DITCHAM
DRUMS: PAUL COOKE
TRUMPET TERRY BAILY AND GORDON MATTHEWMAN
WHY ISNT ROBIN MILLARS NAME LISTED AS PLAYING ANY STRINGS OR GUITAR? IF THAT PERSON MADE THE BEAT WHY DOESNT IT SAY IT??????
SEE THE ABOVE. I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS AND GAVE EXAMPLES. NOW CAN YOU ANSWER MINE?
1. ARE YOU A MEMBER OF ASCAP OR BMI AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THEIR DEFINITION OF COMPOSER?
2.HAVE YOU REGISTERED ANY WORKS WITH S.R. FORMS?
3.HAVE YOU EVER WENT TO A MUSIC SEMINAR OR NETWORKED WITH AN EXECUTIVE OR SOMEONE WHO IS *INVOLVED* IN THE GAME?
4. HAVE YOU READ COPYRIGHT OR TRADMARK LAWS?
5.DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RECORDING CONTRACTS?
6.DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE RECORDING PROCESS?
7.DO YOU KNOW WHAT A PRODUCTION DEAL IS?
AND THE BONUS QUESTION
*HOW DOES A PRODUCER GET PAID???IS IT AFTER RECOUPMENT AT THE NET RATE? IS IT EVERY RECORD SOLD? IS IT "RECORD ONE"????? HOW DOES A "PRODUCER" GET PAID????????*
YOU TALK NONSENSE. THE ONLY PROOF YOU HAVE IS FROM SOMEONE WHO I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF AND WHO HAS NOT SOLD OVER 500K COPIES.
I AM NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE ARTIST. I DONT KNOW THE ARTIST HAVENT HEARD THE ARTISTS MUSIC. MAY GOD BLESS THE ARTIST AND KEEP THEM. IN FACT IF POSSIBLE I WOULD LIKE TO NETWORK WITH THE ARTIST.
HOWEVER I JUST GAVE YOU "HOUSEHOLD NAMES". NAMES THAT RING A BELL AND NAMES THAT YOU SHOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH.
IM CHEAP? THIS WILL DEBUNK YOUR PETTY INSULT. HERE IS A LIST OF EQUIPMENT THAT I HAVE IN MY HOME STUDIO.
MACKIE 24-4
VS880 EX WITH SCSI BURNER
COMPUTER 512 MB OF RAM 7200RPM HARD DRIVE AND 5400 RPM HARD DRIVE WITH DIO 24 BIT DIGITAL SOUND CARD AND PHILLIPS BURNER.
PROTEUS SOUND MODULE
DR.660 DRUM MACHINE
XP-60(FOUR EXPANSION BOARDS INSTALLED)
FENDER STRAT
FENDER BASS
MESA BOOGIE AMP
CRATE AMP
HARTKE BASS HEAD
DR-5
AKG C-1000
SHURE 58
CRY BABY WAH
ROLAND REVRB PEDAL
ROLAND DISTORTION PEDAL
ALESIS RA 100 AMP
PEAVEY 500 AMP
JBL CONTROL 1 MONITORS
JBL 4312B MONITORS
SPIRIT ABSOLUTE ZERO MONITORS
PEAVY SP5G SOUND REINFORCEMENT
KLH 5 DISC CD PLAYER
YAMAHA 10 BAND EQ(ON EACH CHANNEL)
KENWOOD KR-A3070 RECEIVER
TECHNICS RS TR575 DUAL CASSETTE DECK
2 TECHNICS TURNTABLES
NUMARK MIXER
PRESONUS BLUE TUBE
DBX 266 COMPRESSOR
SP 202 SAMPLER
AURELEX ACOUSTIC FOAM
EDJ WAS HERE THIS WEEK END AND HE CAN VOUCH FOR 75% OF THE EQUIPMENT LISTED. EVERYTHING THAT HE DIDNT GET TO SEE WAS AT PETALUMA BECAUSE I AM RECORDING HERE AND I DONT WANT TO LUG THE GEAR AROUND--->
http://www.prairiesun.com/
CLICK ON STUDIO A. THATS $65 DOLLARS AN HOUR. WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO ATTACH MY RECIEPT TO THIS DOCUMENT SO YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY HOURS I PURCHASED?
I ALSO HAVE TO PAY FOR ANALOG TAPE WHICH IS *NOT* CHEAP (I HAVE TO SPEND OVER $500 IN TAPE)!
I ALSO HAVE TO PAY FOR TAPE HEADS WHICH IS *NOT* CHEAP($75 PER TEN HOURS)!!
INSTEAD OF DOING MY ALBUM AT HOME (WHICH I COULD HAVE) I OPTED TO DO PRE PRODUCTION HERE AND SPEND MONEY MAKING IT SOUND GOOD. INSTEAD OF DOING IT BY MYSELF AND OPTED TO HAVE A "WELL KNOWN" ENGINEER GET INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT.
WHAT I WILL DO IS RECORD INTO PRO TOOLS TDM (THROUGH THE SSL BOARD) MIX ON A NEVE AND DUMP TO TAPE. AFTER THAT I WILL FLY THE TAPE BACK INTO PRO TOOLS AND GET A COPY OF ALL THE FILES.
FROM THAT POINT I WILL GO TO ONE OF THREE MASTERING STUDIOS. THEY ARE LISTED HERE IN THE STUDIO SESSION. JUST FIND THE THREAD THAT I MADE CALLED "MASTERING INFO".
THE PRICES ARE LISTED ON THE THREAD AND IT ISNT CHEAP.
NOW LIST *YOUR* EQUIPMENT AND LETS HERE HOW YOU ARE RECORDING.
SO THAT BLOWS YOUR PETTY INSULT OUT THE WATER LITTLE MAN. WHY IS IT THAT I CAN TELL MY GUITAR PLAYER WHAT TO PLAY AND WHAT NOT TO PLAY? BECAUSE I AM A MUSICIAN AND I KNOW WHAT THE HELL IM DOING. WHY CAN I TELL THE MIX ENGINEER TO USE LIMITING? BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. CAN I TELL THE ENGINEER TO NOT PAN HARD LEFT AND RIGHT BECAUSE PHASE CANCELLATION MAY OCCUR? YOU BET. WILL I OFTEN SWITCH THE MIX BACK TO MONO TO HEAR HOW IT SOUNDS? CERTAINLY? ARE YOU AN IDIOT? YES YOU ARE!
:dead:
:h:
PS PEOPLE ON *THIS* PART OF THE BOARD HAVE ASKED *ME* FOR TIPS. I HAVE *NEVER* SEEN *ANYONE* ASK "TADOU" FOR TIPS.
NO ONE HAS NEVER ASKED YOU ABOUT HOW TO HOOK EQUIPMENT UP,HOW TO PROPERLY USE FX, HOW TO PROPERLY RECORD SIGNALS ETC ETC ETC. PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD HAVE MADE SPECIFIC THREADS ASKING ME FOR HELP. NO ONE COMES TO YOU. BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING. NOW IF YOU WANT TO ELABORATE ON THE RECORDING PROCESS LETS DO IT. WE CAN TALK ABOUT EQING A REVERB SIGNAL PRE OR POST FADER. LETS DO IT AND WE WILL PROVE WHO THE WANNA BE IS........:dead:
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