What does scrap mean to you

[FC ENE]

so why did a crip blood mutt or scrap do what he did. we all do it for a reason maybe i confused you with the _________movement. maybe i should you cause, lifestyle,way, way of life

it doesnt matter I commend you on trying to help your brother but I still do not take anything away from what I said earlier.

 

[Dosia]

i do remember everything that you just mentioned, but i was not affiliated with the surs or nortes, most of my homies where either nortes or bulldogs, i just banged for the block.i also remember how hard headed i was, how i would not listen to others telling me the same thing that i am saying now. i would say their my homies, my family, they watch my back i watch theres, but when you step away from it you realize that this is not the only way

 

[Dosia]

so as in movement you ment lifestyle which if i remember right is, fighting, jacking, robbing, stealing, drinking, smoking, snorting, shooting, beating. what else did i leave out of the movement.

no dis respect ment. but a movement must be something that is moving toward something, a movement must have a goal. when will you stop and say ok our movement has been a success, its over.

 

[Dosia]

the crip, blood, or whatever did it to come up, did it to get some cash, did it cause they dont want to work. or they faught cause thats what gangs do. you have to keep the cycle going, who will the cops arrests if all of the gangs stop doing what they do.

 

[FC ENE]

I dont wanna disrespect but you do remember how you were. I see things very different though. I knew frum the beginning what this life brought. you know I walked paths that are not easily reversible. youll remember how it was in fresno back in our younger days. bulldogs were not big at all then they took the east and north side over. I didnt change then I wont change now. when i say i wont change i mean sides as well as lifestyles. Im not frum fresno but you know how the county is thats why i said i wont change sides.

 

[FC ENE]

you said so this is a cycle. and thats where this conversation will become. this is an age old argument. It didnt stop our earlier generations and wont change the next ones. Please lets stick to the question what does scrap mean to you.

 

[Dosia]

im going to pass out homie, good conversation. continue this tomarrow maybe.
peace homie stay up

 

[WOODIE]

PRETENDO....YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH THAT"LOU LOU"SHIT ON THE NET....ANYTHING YOU SAY IS BIAS UNTIL YOU EXPERIENCE IT FIRST HAND-N- ABOUT WHAT MY HOMEBOYZ DONE FOR ME.... BUY A EAST CO.CO. CD....THAT WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION....LOU-E-LOU

 

[LOOTER oF tHE NEW CHURCH]

AND I FORGOT ANOTHER DEFINITION OF A SCRAP IS ANYONE THAT SYMPATHIZES WITH THEM JUST TO SPITE NORTENOS. FAR TO MANY OF THEM ON HERE NO SPECIFIC NAMES THOSE THAT GET OFFENED ARE THE ONES THAT THIS PERTAINS TO. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT BELIEVE PPL LIKE SNOOP AND DRE NELLY JAY Z WHEN THEY SAY THAT THEY ARE HARD.

of course you mean me. And fuck snoop and nelly and jay z where are you getting that ~HARD~ bullshit from? Uncalled for. Anyways...

Sympathize? I see things from a Southern Cali persepective just as you see them from a Central Cali one. Yours is a much more focused and set opinion because you are a gangster and I am obviously not. My aim is definitely not to spite Nortenos. This is the most heated discussion on the board and being that there are so few people to give any kind of perspective on how it is down here, I speak on it almost everyday and it interests me. I know what I know and I do not aim to learn much else, but it does happen because most everything about "the cause" seems to be revealed on this board anyway (i been on here since 99 and seen it all). I probably know more about it than half the non-Nortenos on the board. At the same time I know WAYYY fuckin more about the situation down here, so I balance it out and attempt to avoid biases and go more with facts. If there is anything you think I am being biased about please inform me. Do I come off disrespectful to you?... because I have seen a handful of non-Nortenos on here who are very blunt and say "SCRAP" like its going out of style that try to perp that they "kick it with Nortenos" so they think they are a part of the cause. I have no problem kickin it with just about anyone, but I'm not about to start acting like them and perpetratin to be a part of their cause and using childish disses at their enemies because its the cool thing to do.
ok

 

[HOGGLIFE]

ANY TRUE SOLDIER WOULD BE QUICK TO RECITE HIS MISSION STATEMENT.. SO I GATHER IM IN THE MIDST OPH PHAKERS...YOU CAN PHEED ME THIS "IPH YOU DONT KNOW, THEN YOU DONT NEED TO KNOW" BULLSHIT ALL YOU WANT...BUT TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE NO ANSWER...PROVE ME WRONG...GIVE ME A VALID RESPONSE...


...ABA

THIS SOME REAL SHIT PEOPLE DIE OVER THIS . THE CAUSE DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ASK ? INSIDE TO ME ITS OVER TERRITORY AS IN IF THE OPPOSITION HAS A CERTAIN PART OF THE YARD MY PART BETTER BE EQUAL TOO OR BIGGER OTHERWISE I DONT WANT LIVE THERE WHILE I DO TIME SO I MUST DO SOMETHING TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM . AND THE OPPISITION ISNT ALWAYS SOUTHERNERS .OUTSIDE IM MUCH NICER I GIVE OPTIONS BOWDOWNS OR BEATDOWNS

 

[YOUNG BREW]

damn hogglife..i was waitin for that post about how you wonder if some of these posts are made by the PO PO...cuz really.this is a prime example..everyone is wasting there time..devulging a grip of info on the net...fuck it...lets chop on some EAST CO CO MUSIC..should be the real reason we on here

 

[YOUNG VILLAIN]

EVERY QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED AT LEAST 10 TIMES OVER. AND EVERY PERSON HAS GIVEN THE ARTISTS PROPS...WHAT MORE IS THERE TO SAY??

 

[M-PHIVE]

M-PHIVE THIS IS LOU-E-LOU....WHO IS YOU DUDE???? I REMEMBER WHEN MY BOY WOODIE TOLD ME ABOUT SOME SUCKA ON THE NET WHO POSTED A FOUL ASS THREAD ABOUT HIM CAUSE HE WOULD'NT RAP ON YOUR SHIT....YOU CALLED MY HOMEBOY WOODIE A "PUNK BITCH" THOSE ARE WORDS THAT ARE'NT TOOKEN LIGHTLY....THEN YOU WANT TO SHOW YOUR ASS AGAIN....YOUR HEART GOTTA BE MADE OF PLASTIC CAUSE ONLY SUCKAS PULL SHIT LIKE THAT....

PHIRST...THATS SUM OLS ASS SHIT...I APOLOGIZED TO WOODIE, WHETHER OR NOT HE ACCEPTED IT IS HIS DECISION...I ADMITTED I WAS OUTTA LINE AND I MOVED ON...LET IT GO...WHO RU?SECOND...THATS A LIL OPHH TOPIC HOMEBOY...I ASKED A SIMPLE ASS QUESTION AND DUDE COMES OUT ACTIN LIKE YALL SUM UNTOUCHABLES ON A TOP SECRET MISSION...IPH HE WOULDA JUST CAME OUT AND SAID, "AINT NO MOVEMENT, WE JUST BANG N", OR WHATEVER, THEN OK ID STOP ASKIN, BUT HE TRYNA SOUND ALL TOP SECRET...HE SHOULD BE PROUD OPH WHAT HE'S DOIN AND LET IT BE KNOWN...


...ABA

 

[M-PHIVE]

THIS SOME REAL SHIT PEOPLE DIE OVER THIS . THE CAUSE DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ASK ? INSIDE TO ME ITS OVER TERRITORY AS IN IF THE OPPOSITION HAS A CERTAIN PART OF THE YARD MY PART BETTER BE EQUAL TOO OR BIGGER OTHERWISE I DONT WANT LIVE THERE WHILE I DO TIME SO I MUST DO SOMETHING TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM . AND THE OPPISITION ISNT ALWAYS SOUTHERNERS .OUTSIDE IM MUCH NICER I GIVE OPTIONS BOWDOWNS OR BEATDOWNS

THANK YOU OSO...SEE THATS ALL I WANTED TO KNOW...I UNDERSTAND HOW DEEP IT ISMY HOMIE IS A SURENO AND EXPLAINED THE WHOLE SHIT TO ME, I KNOW ITS SUM REAL SHIT...AND I RESPECT ANYONE WHO CAN PHIGHT PHOR SOMETHING THAT WONT SOON BE OVER...BUT NO RESPECT PHOR ANYONE WHO CANT EXPLAIN WHY THEYRE PHIGHTING...


...ABA


...ABA

 

[Dosia]

i was waitin for that post about how you wonder if some of these posts are made by the PO PO...cuz really.this is a prime example..everyone is wasting there time..devulging a grip of info on the net

are you being serious? the police, fbi, whoever probably knows more background information about every major gang is the country. there intend, rivals, territory.

 

[Dosia]

agian thank you hogglife for giving an answer

 

[YOUNG BREW]

EVERY QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED AT LEAST 10 TIMES OVER. AND EVERY PERSON HAS GIVEN THE ARTISTS PROPS...WHAT MORE IS THERE TO SAY??

ok and every angle of the gang aspect hasnt?

c'mon homie..i know theres some fools on here who only wanna chop up that gang talk cuz they never learned shit from the streets..so they come on here perpin in hopes to gain some knowledge..but should we help them in that?
theres a grip of shit to talk about besides ...what does scrap mean to you?..what does buster mean? whats an ENE?..whos harder ene or ese?..c'mon now..you cant tell me the shit aint gettin played..i aint tellin noone to stop.im simply makin a SUGGESTION...cuz the real ones know they real..the fakes no they fake

 

[YOUNG BREW]

are you being serious? the police, fbi, whoever probably knows more background information about every major gang is the country. there intend, rivals, territory.

actually im not serious..but there is meaning behind that...its like my last post...folks dont know shit and theres a REASON for it..either they were never up on game and never SOAKED it on the streets...or they were around it all day but too bitchmade so the fools actually livin it never sprinkled them with the game

 

[YOUNG VILLAIN]

M-TOWN: I FEEL YOU HOMIE. THIS SHIT IS GETTIN PLAYED. BUT THERES A WHOLE LOT OF EAST CO CO RECORD ARTISTS THAT ARE NORTENOS. YOU SHOULD EXPECT GANG RELATED TOPICS!

LET ME ASK YOU THIS.....THINK OF A QUESTION SOMEONE AINT ASKED.....THERES NOT TOO MANY....PEOPLE ALREADY ASKED BOUT WHAT NEW IS DROPPIN HELLA TIMES! AND UNLESS YOU WANNA START ASKIN THE ARTISTS PERSONAL QUESTIONS (WHICH I REALLY DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT) THERES NOTHING MORE TO ASK. YOU FEEL ME?

 

[YOUNG BREW]

ok i can feel what your sayin on shit gettin played as far as east co co related topics..but shit ..we can make posts that have nothin to do with east co co artist..as in..just subjects every one can feel..every one can relate to...yea i know east co co is a Norteno based lable..but WCM is a crip based lable..i dont see every topic pertaining to Crips...same with alotta forums...alotta these artists as well as siccness members are gang related..of course im knowin that..but is the NET really the place for that type of shit? ...and seeing as how you brought up the east co co being Nortenos subject..how many of the gang related threads were STARTED by WOODIE or LOU-E-LOU???....it just seems to get played...like everything is suppossed to be one sided..noone wants to hear the oppositions opinion..not meaning rivals just people with diff opinion..or like when Vamps and Leader come on explainin the LA point of view...muthafuckas get there thongs in a twist cuz its a different opinion