What Do You Think About This Phrase?

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After Christ's death and resurrection, Satan, using Gnostics in Alexandria, Egypt, corrupted the Biblical scriptures, playing down the deity of Jesus and adding the Apocrypha. As the Roman Empire was falling, Constantine claimed the throne. He was challenged by another Roman general, Maxentius. During a battle with Maxentius' army, he stated he saw the sign of a cross in the sky (an Egyptian ankh) underneath the words, "In this sign conquer." Constantine "became a Christian", painted the ankh on his army's shields, and was victorious. Though he declared publicly that he and his soldiers were Christian, he still secretly worshipped Sol (Baal). Constantine then took over the Roman government and issued the Edict of Milan, a decree of tolerance for Christians, "baptized" his troops, and presided as the first Summus Pontifex (the official title of the Pope).

Many of the existing "Christian" churches he legitimized had been earlier infiltrated by spies under Nero, and had become corrupt. Over the years, these counterfeit churches, under Constantine's guide, eventually evolved into Roman Catholicism. Constantine ordered Eusebius, the Bishop of Caesarea, to have fifty Bibles assembled. Although true Christians had assembled the correct Word of God in Antioch, Syria, Eusebius chose the corrupted Alexandrian texts from Egypt, which had been altered by the Gnostic scholar Origen. These Bibles were the foundation of the Roman Catholic church. The Vatican later created the Latin Vulgate from the original fifty, and all other versions were outlawed.

Roman Catholicism transferred Baal worship into an already corrupted Christianity. The icon of the virgin mother and child with halos (representing the sun), Mary as the queen of heaven, confessionals, wafer worship, transubstantiation, and priests as exclusive mediators of God were all derived from the Satanic Babylonian religion. Roman Catholicism became a mixture of witchcraft, Judaism, paganism, and perverted Christianity. Witches thrived and were ordained by the Vatican. Meanwhile, true Christians spread the word that the Vatican was the Whore of Babylon (of the Book of Revelation). Rome was outraged, and staged the Holy Inquisition, torturing and murdering "heretics" to eliminate both Christians and Jews, and to fill the coffers of the church. Later, in response to the Vatican's oppressive dogma, Martin Luther, a former Augustinian monk, nailed his 95 theses to the wall of a church in Germany, heralding Protestantism. The Vatican is shaken as Protestantism spreads rapidly through Europe. In order to stamp out the spiritual rebellion, Pope Paul III ordered Ignatius de Loyola to found the Order of Jesuits, which would act as the intelligentsia and secret militia of the Vatican. Loyola had already founded the occult Illuminati, which he then placed under the umbrella of the Vatican. The secret Satanic organization later became the most important branch of the Jesuit order, controlling the world economy, international banking, military forces, witchcraft, and the world religions. Jesuits ("the militia of the popes") used witchcraft, meditation (trances), hypnosis, and speaking in tongues to infiltrate and destroy the Bible-believing Protestant church. To this day, the Superior General of the Jesuits, "the Black Pope", is the mysterious man behind the Pope; it is he who has the ultimate power in the Vatican. The Jesuits helped develop many cults: Freemasons, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, and many others, to serve the interests of the Vatican. They staged campaigns to rid Europe of Bible-believing Christians, first in France, then in England (by secretly trying to substitute the corrupted Alexandrian Bible for the English translation). The bait and switch plot failed, as King James successfully translated the Word of God (the Antioch manuscripts) into his English version-to this day the only uncorrupted text.
 

HERESY

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@hit the blunt the thread was listed for a couple of reasons. I dont know if you read the thread the link all the way through but let me take some excerpts from it:

No where in the word of God can you find where a child of God ever calls himself a Christian.

thats a fact.

If Paul, who was a true "follower of Christ" never called himself a Christian, who should call himself a Christian ? The answer is none !

what the author is arguing is that the term IS used incorrectly today (which is my point). THE AUTHOR HIMSELF USES THE TERM INCORRECTLY! READ THIS:
The word Christian is not a Biblical name that should be tossed around in a loose manner without respect. It is the NAME OF CHRIST applied to one of his "followers".
since when has "CHRIST" been a NAME? HIS FIRST NAME WAS JESUS AND LAST NAME CHRIST? OR WAS HIS NAME CHRIST? LOL! IF IT WAS YESHUATITES OR YESHUATIANS (LOL) IT WOULD BE VALID BUT THE NAME OF *THE* CHRIST WAS/IS NOT CHRIST.

NOW PEEP THIS LINK:

http://www.giftofeternallife.org/bible_study/glossary/c.shtml

WHAT THE EARLY BELIEVERS CALLED *THEMSELVES* MAY BE FOUND HERE: Acts 9:1-2 AND Acts 24:14 (IN CASE YOU DONT HIT THE LINK)

@MIGG YOU SAID THIS:
Heresy, I'd like to know how you interpret this?
ALMOST THE SAME WAY AS YOU DO.
It is very clear to me that this passage explains the very first time the disciples of Jesus the Christ were given a name....
FIRST TIME THEY WERE GIVEN THE NAME "CHRISTIAN".

The whole point I'm trying to make is that people who believe in Jesus shouldn't divide themselves.
NO THEY SHOULDNT BUT THEY DO. LOOK AT PAUL V.S. PETER.
We could've made a better world a long time ago if the church hadn't spilt....
POSSIBLY.
And people are splittin as we speak.
APOSTASY...ITS NOTHING NEW.
That only makes us weaker....
WHO'S "US"? CHRISTIANS? I COULD CARE LESS IF BELIEVERS CALL THEMSELVES SAMMICH MAKERS OR GARBAGE PAIL KIDS. IM NOT BOUND BY THAT "NAME". IF YOU CALL YOURSELF THAT SIMPLY MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHERE THE TERM CAME FROM AND HOW ITS APPLIED.

PERSONALLY I DONT CALL MYSELF "CHRISTIAN". IT DOESNT MEAN IM SEPERATING MYSELF OR I THINK IM BETTER. I DONT FOLLOW THE "CHRISTIAN" (SUGAR COATED 501 C3) DOGMA/DOCTRINE.

NOW IF I AM CALLED A CHRISTIAN (AND MOST PEOPLE CALL ME THAT) I DONT TRIP. I TELL THEM IM NOT A CHRISTIAN BUT IF THATS WHAT THEY CONTINUE TO CALL ME SO BE IT. IF I SUFFER FOR BEING A "CHRISTIAN" SO BE IT.

1 Peter 4:16

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HERESY said:

what the author is arguing is that the term IS used incorrectly today (which is my point).
Which is what I'm tryin to say as well.
People who follow "the" Christ are Christians.
People today who call themselves Christians, aren't.

So the best solution is to change our name in order to seperate ourselves from these corrupted people?


HERESY said:

WHO'S "US"? CHRISTIANS? I COULD CARE LESS IF BELIEVERS CALL THEMSELVES SAMMICH MAKERS OR GARBAGE PAIL KIDS. IM NOT BOUND BY THAT "NAME". IF YOU CALL YOURSELF THAT SIMPLY MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHERE THE TERM CAME FROM AND HOW ITS APPLIED.
"Us" is people who believe in Jesus, the Christ....

HERESY said:

PERSONALLY I DONT CALL MYSELF "CHRISTIAN". IT DOESNT MEAN IM SEPERATING MYSELF OR I THINK IM BETTER. I DONT FOLLOW THE "CHRISTIAN" (SUGAR COATED 501 C3) DOGMA/DOCTRINE.
Not in your case, but it is in everyone elses.
Every denomination that changes it's name from the herd, also changes it's beliefs....

By the way, the true Christian "dogma/doctrine" is the true order of Jesus.

HERESY said:

NOW IF I AM CALLED A CHRISTIAN (AND MOST PEOPLE CALL ME THAT) I DONT TRIP. I TELL THEM IM NOT A CHRISTIAN BUT IF THATS WHAT THEY CONTINUE TO CALL ME SO BE IT. IF I SUFFER FOR BEING A "CHRISTIAN" SO BE IT.

1 Peter 4:16

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That's exactly what I mean. True Christians will be persecuted.
"Those who try to live, will lose their lives. And those who die, will live"....