What Do You Think About This Phrase?
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Judaism was not "modified" by Jesus, and it was never considered "Christianity".
It remains today as it did even before Jesus' appearance. Jesus' appearance was accepted by some Jews to be the coming of the Messiah, and others rejected that idea.
Hence, Judaism remains, and now we also have "Catholicism" and "Christianity", and the thousands of sects under each of those umbrellas.
As for the bumper sticker, nothing but pretentiousness from bitches who actually don't know a fuckin thing about God.
It remains today as it did even before Jesus' appearance. Jesus' appearance was accepted by some Jews to be the coming of the Messiah, and others rejected that idea.
Hence, Judaism remains, and now we also have "Catholicism" and "Christianity", and the thousands of sects under each of those umbrellas.
As for the bumper sticker, nothing but pretentiousness from bitches who actually don't know a fuckin thing about God.
EARLY/ORIGINAL FOLLOWERS OF YESHUA WERE NOT CALLED "CHRISTIANS" OR CATHOLICS.
THEY WERE CALLED "PEOPLE OF THE WAY" (OR FOLLOWERS OF THE WAY). NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT "THE WAY". THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THE DOCTRINE.
THE TERM CHRISTIAN WAS ACTUALLY A DEROGETORY (CHECK SPELLING) WORD. IT WAS FIRST USED IN ANTIOCH (IN THE BOOK OF ACTS)
THEY WERE CALLED "PEOPLE OF THE WAY" (OR FOLLOWERS OF THE WAY). NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT "THE WAY". THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THE DOCTRINE.
THE TERM CHRISTIAN WAS ACTUALLY A DEROGETORY (CHECK SPELLING) WORD. IT WAS FIRST USED IN ANTIOCH (IN THE BOOK OF ACTS)
Acts 11:26
EARLY FOLLWOERS REFERED TO THEMSELVES AS BROTHERS, DISCIPLES, THE ELECT, THE FAITHFUL OR SAINTS.
ACTS 26:28 IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. ITS *HOW* HE REPLIED THAT COUNTS (IT WASNT GOOD)
IF I CALL YOU A "NIGGA" DOES THAT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE WORD CAME FROM NIGGER? OF COURSE NOT.
catholic (which comes from KATHOLIKA) WAS FIRST USED IN APPRX 110 A.D. It means UNIVERSAL.
Catholic (first letter capitalized) WAS FIRST USED IN APPRX 400 A.D. AND DENOTES THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AND ITS BELIEVERS.
SO WHICH CAME FIRST THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG?
EARLY FOLLWOERS REFERED TO THEMSELVES AS BROTHERS, DISCIPLES, THE ELECT, THE FAITHFUL OR SAINTS.
ACTS 26:28 IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. ITS *HOW* HE REPLIED THAT COUNTS (IT WASNT GOOD)
IF I CALL YOU A "NIGGA" DOES THAT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE WORD CAME FROM NIGGER? OF COURSE NOT.
catholic (which comes from KATHOLIKA) WAS FIRST USED IN APPRX 110 A.D. It means UNIVERSAL.
Catholic (first letter capitalized) WAS FIRST USED IN APPRX 400 A.D. AND DENOTES THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AND ITS BELIEVERS.
SO WHICH CAME FIRST THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG?
isnt it true that 99.9% of rappers adopted NIGGA which stems from NIGGER? It's "o.k." or "cool" to say it now right?
my nigga?
my nizzle?
my nig?
do you see what im getting at? it DOESNT matter if peter or paul adopted the term between 60-70 a.d. what does matter is that the term was made by outsiders (gentiles) and was used to belittle and ridicule the FOLLOWERS OF THE WAY.
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my nigga?
my nizzle?
my nig?
do you see what im getting at? it DOESNT matter if peter or paul adopted the term between 60-70 a.d. what does matter is that the term was made by outsiders (gentiles) and was used to belittle and ridicule the FOLLOWERS OF THE WAY.
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My point is this, Christian is the official name of those who choose to follow Jesus.
Why change the name into something else as many have done?
That only leads into division between the sheep.
I know that many corrupted individuals have given Christianity a black eye but why abandon the ship?
People shouldn't split, that only makes it worse.
We have to shake the other ones off.
A good example today is the Apiscopalian church.
I don't think they should split apart from each other.
The rest of the members should cut their ties off with the ones who have corrupted it here in the states....
Why change the name into something else as many have done?
That only leads into division between the sheep.
I know that many corrupted individuals have given Christianity a black eye but why abandon the ship?
People shouldn't split, that only makes it worse.
We have to shake the other ones off.
A good example today is the Apiscopalian church.
I don't think they should split apart from each other.
The rest of the members should cut their ties off with the ones who have corrupted it here in the states....
I see what you are gettin at.
So you are implying that the original disciples adopted a derogatory term for those who believed in Jesus?
If so, can you explain that?
I do not think that "Christian" is derogatory in any way.
On the contrary, darkened souls have given it such a bad rep that it seems it is a derogatory word for the believers
(now days)....
So you are implying that the original disciples adopted a derogatory term for those who believed in Jesus?
If so, can you explain that?
I do not think that "Christian" is derogatory in any way.
On the contrary, darkened souls have given it such a bad rep that it seems it is a derogatory word for the believers
(now days)....
JUST LIKE "AFRICAN AMERICAN" IS THE OFFICIAL NAME OF THOSE WHO DESCEND FROM SLAVES.
ASK THE CHRISTIANS. "CHRISTIAN" WAS *NOT* THE NAME THAT THE EARLY FOLLOWERS OF YESHUA USED.
WHY GET ON THE SHIP IN THE FIRST PLACE?
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/christian.html
WHAT NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED?????? SIMPLY READ THE VERSES PROVIDED AND DO RESEARCH ON THE WORD "CHRISTIAN".
WELL YOU ARE ENTITLED TO THINK AND BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT BUT HISTORY PROVES OTHERWISE.
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WELL YOU ARE ENTITLED TO THINK AND BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT BUT HISTORY PROVES OTHERWISE.
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Yeah.
Yeah but later the term Christian was adopted.
Because you will eventually drown if you don't.
I'll do the research but that still doesn't take away the fact that the founders of Christianity, adopted the term "Christian"....
History also tells us that Paul and Peter called themselves Christians.
Yeah but later the term Christian was adopted.
Because you will eventually drown if you don't.
I'll do the research but that still doesn't take away the fact that the founders of Christianity, adopted the term "Christian"....
History also tells us that Paul and Peter called themselves Christians.
1.you dont have *ONE* case in the bible of paul, peter, jesus or anyone else calling another believer a CHRISTIAN. the word is only used 3 times in the bible.
2.http://www.bibletruthforum.org/answers/christian1.htm
3.HISTORY DOES NOT TELL US THAT PETER OR PAUL CALLED THEMSELVES THAT.
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2.http://www.bibletruthforum.org/answers/christian1.htm
3.HISTORY DOES NOT TELL US THAT PETER OR PAUL CALLED THEMSELVES THAT.
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Heresy, I am confused by what you are trying to get across. You say "the term was made by outsiders (gentiles) and was used to belittle and ridicule the FOLLOWERS OF THE WAY." yet you post a link which argues that the term is too much of a compliment. Basically saying you are not good enough to call yourself Christian. I don't get how that link http://www.bibletruthforum.org/answers/christian1.htm goes along with your argument.
Acts 11:26
"And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called CHRISTIANS first in Antioch."
Heresy, I'd like to know how you interpret this?
It is very clear to me that this passage explains the very first time the disciples of Jesus the Christ were given a name....
But I wanna hear your side of the story....
The whole point I'm trying to make is that people who believe in Jesus shouldn't divide themselves.
We could've made a better world a long time ago if the church hadn't spilt....
And people are splittin as we speak.
That only makes us weaker....
"And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called CHRISTIANS first in Antioch."
Heresy, I'd like to know how you interpret this?
It is very clear to me that this passage explains the very first time the disciples of Jesus the Christ were given a name....
But I wanna hear your side of the story....
The whole point I'm trying to make is that people who believe in Jesus shouldn't divide themselves.
We could've made a better world a long time ago if the church hadn't spilt....
And people are splittin as we speak.
That only makes us weaker....
Well away from the word " Cotholic" and when it was first used.
The Catholic on the Sticker is Most likely refering to Roman Catholism.
In that case it started around 300 A.D., and it is actually the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles mixed with the Pagan God which the Roman Empire worshipped then. GOOD Example? Look at the Picture of the Virgin Mary being held up by Baby Jesus. I can show you the same picture dating before Christ of Nimrod Holding his Mother/Lover up the same way.
Nimrod developed astrology, and laid the foundations for black and white witchcraft. Shem (Cush's great uncle, Noah's son, and a righteous man), appalled by his nephew's evil deeds, killed Nimrod. Before his death, Nimrod married and impregnated his mother Semiramis. After Nimrod was slain, Semiramis convinced the people of Babylon that Nimrod was a god (the sun god Baal), and that she was a goddess (the Queen of Heaven). Semiramis developed the Satanic religion of Baal worship, including confession (for blackmail and public fear), secret societies (prefiguring Masonry, Mormonism, Jesuits, and the Illuminati), and the idea that she, as the religious leader, was the only medium to God (prefiguring the Pope). Idols appeared featuring mother Semiramis and baby Nimrod (prefiguring the Virgin Mary and Baby Jesus); her symbol was the moon (Isis, Diana), and Nimrod's was the sun (Horus, Baal, Sol). Semiramis promoted baby sacrifices and celibacy for priests, foreshadowing Roman Catholicism. She invented death by crucifixion (crucifixes were originally occult symbols in Babylon and Egypt). Semiramis bore another child (by her son Nimrod, while claiming she was a virgin) named Tammuz, who she maintained was the reincarnation of Nimrod (Baal). This was the foundation of the virgin mother with child archetype that Satan used to corrupt many world religions.
In Egypt, Semiramis became Isis, and Nimrod became Horus (as a child) and Osiris as an adult (the pyramid eye of Freemasonry is the "eye of Osiris"). Sun worship dominated Egypt. Egyptian priests practiced "transubstantiation", claiming to be able to transfer the sun god Osiris into a circular wafer. In rituals prefiguring Catholic Mass, the faithful then ate the "body" of their god to nourish their souls. The letters IHS on the sun-shaped wafers stood for Isis, Horus, Seb (later, Roman Catholics claimed they were the first three letters of Jesus' name in Greek).
The Catholic on the Sticker is Most likely refering to Roman Catholism.
In that case it started around 300 A.D., and it is actually the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles mixed with the Pagan God which the Roman Empire worshipped then. GOOD Example? Look at the Picture of the Virgin Mary being held up by Baby Jesus. I can show you the same picture dating before Christ of Nimrod Holding his Mother/Lover up the same way.
Nimrod developed astrology, and laid the foundations for black and white witchcraft. Shem (Cush's great uncle, Noah's son, and a righteous man), appalled by his nephew's evil deeds, killed Nimrod. Before his death, Nimrod married and impregnated his mother Semiramis. After Nimrod was slain, Semiramis convinced the people of Babylon that Nimrod was a god (the sun god Baal), and that she was a goddess (the Queen of Heaven). Semiramis developed the Satanic religion of Baal worship, including confession (for blackmail and public fear), secret societies (prefiguring Masonry, Mormonism, Jesuits, and the Illuminati), and the idea that she, as the religious leader, was the only medium to God (prefiguring the Pope). Idols appeared featuring mother Semiramis and baby Nimrod (prefiguring the Virgin Mary and Baby Jesus); her symbol was the moon (Isis, Diana), and Nimrod's was the sun (Horus, Baal, Sol). Semiramis promoted baby sacrifices and celibacy for priests, foreshadowing Roman Catholicism. She invented death by crucifixion (crucifixes were originally occult symbols in Babylon and Egypt). Semiramis bore another child (by her son Nimrod, while claiming she was a virgin) named Tammuz, who she maintained was the reincarnation of Nimrod (Baal). This was the foundation of the virgin mother with child archetype that Satan used to corrupt many world religions.
In Egypt, Semiramis became Isis, and Nimrod became Horus (as a child) and Osiris as an adult (the pyramid eye of Freemasonry is the "eye of Osiris"). Sun worship dominated Egypt. Egyptian priests practiced "transubstantiation", claiming to be able to transfer the sun god Osiris into a circular wafer. In rituals prefiguring Catholic Mass, the faithful then ate the "body" of their god to nourish their souls. The letters IHS on the sun-shaped wafers stood for Isis, Horus, Seb (later, Roman Catholics claimed they were the first three letters of Jesus' name in Greek).