What did Bush have to hide?
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The witnesses blew up in the planes with the terrorists. Like ol' boy said, why would you look at a middle eastern person in an airport and classify him as a suspect when nothing had happened? Especially when they aren't KNOWN terrorists.
They traveled to the selected airports, parked their cars, went in, showed their tickets to the person at the counter and jumped on the plane. The box cutters were already placed on the plane, they didn't have to sneak them on. I could be wrong here, but I don't think any of those planes were international flights, so maybe they didn't think it was necessary to check their passports since they were already in the United States. Don't forget, before 9-11, security at airports was a fuckin joke.
They traveled to the selected airports, parked their cars, went in, showed their tickets to the person at the counter and jumped on the plane. The box cutters were already placed on the plane, they didn't have to sneak them on. I could be wrong here, but I don't think any of those planes were international flights, so maybe they didn't think it was necessary to check their passports since they were already in the United States. Don't forget, before 9-11, security at airports was a fuckin joke.
the hijackers dont take orders from the whitehouse, they are brainwashed from people like bin laden and it goes up the ladder to who controls these organisations and who finances them. If bush was in bed with bin laden then he could of told al queda to give the go ahead and pick out some of their brainwashed followers to do their bidding unsuspectedly. If the war in iraq is about oil then do u think the american soldiers there are knowingly dying for oil or do u think they believe they are doing it for the right thing, same with al queda and their unsuspecting pawns.
Why did Bush accuse Bin Laden in front of the entire world? Of all the terrorists in the middle-east, he chose his business partner? PLEASE. Don't rely on the same irrationality that you people accuse conservatives of.
2-0-Sixx, don't they say (in the world of science) that what seems to be the most logical, is likely the answer? Or is that just something I heard on a movie.
2-0-Sixx, don't they say (in the world of science) that what seems to be the most logical, is likely the answer? Or is that just something I heard on a movie.
SHADY BUSINESS TACTICS HAPPEN EVERYDAY. HELL WHY DO PEOPLE ACCUSE SUGE OF KILLING PAC? PEOPLE KILL AND ACCUSE BUSINESS PARTNERS *DAILY*. IT COULD HAPPEN THROUGH BUYING OUT THE PERSONS OPTIONS/OWNERSHIP, RIGGING PAPER WORK ETC ETC ETC.
THE MOST LOGICAL? THE MOST LOGICAL IMHO IS WHAT I SAID *BEFORE* THE ATTACKS EVEN HAPPENED.
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THE MOST LOGICAL? THE MOST LOGICAL IMHO IS WHAT I SAID *BEFORE* THE ATTACKS EVEN HAPPENED.
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I DON'T BELIEVE IN CONSPIRACY THEORIES. I BELIEVE IN WHAT I SEE. YOU ON THE OTHER HAND BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT PROCEEDS FROM THE ASSOCIATED PRESS AND AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. :hurt:
YOU ASKED ABOUT BUSH ACCUSING HIS BUDDY IN A FEEBLE ATTEMPT TO JUSTIFY/VALIDATE YOUR POINT. THIS IS BUSINESS WITH BIG MONEY INVOLVED. YOU CAN TAKE THAT HOWEVER YOU WANT.
YOU ASKED ABOUT BUSH ACCUSING HIS BUDDY IN A FEEBLE ATTEMPT TO JUSTIFY/VALIDATE YOUR POINT. THIS IS BUSINESS WITH BIG MONEY INVOLVED. YOU CAN TAKE THAT HOWEVER YOU WANT.
Yes, in the world of science. This of course is not science, it's human nature.
Below is what I wrote on a different thread...
You're right though, what is Logical? The explanations we were given about 9/11 are DEFINATELY NOT logical. The information the bush admin and the media pumped into amerika for reasons to invade Iraq were DEFINATELY NOT logical. So, we have to look at who is benefiting the most from all of this. Then, we can ask ourselves if it is completely illogical to even consider an inside job, which by mentioning OperationNorthwoods should provide your answer, not to mention Hitler burning the Reichstag and blaming “terrorists.” Illogical? Absolutely not. Enough evidence to prove it? Absolutely not.
Below is what I wrote on a different thread...
You're right though, what is Logical? The explanations we were given about 9/11 are DEFINATELY NOT logical. The information the bush admin and the media pumped into amerika for reasons to invade Iraq were DEFINATELY NOT logical. So, we have to look at who is benefiting the most from all of this. Then, we can ask ourselves if it is completely illogical to even consider an inside job, which by mentioning OperationNorthwoods should provide your answer, not to mention Hitler burning the Reichstag and blaming “terrorists.” Illogical? Absolutely not. Enough evidence to prove it? Absolutely not.
THE BUSH FAMILY BRINGS IN - BILLIONS - YEARLY..... I WANNA SEE HOW THE " HIJACKERS ' FAMILIES ARE LIVING NOW
AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE.... THE BUSH FAM AND ASSOSIATES WILL HAVE A LOT MORE WEALTH AND A LOT MORE POWER THEN THEY HAD A COUPLE YEARS AGO.. AND THEN WHAT THEY GOT NOW....
SOME OF YOU NEED TO SEE THE BIG PICTURE...... U EVER THINK TO YOURSELF " IS THIS REALLY A WAR ON TERRORISM?? "..... OR SOME OF THIS SHIT HAPPENING REALLY AINT MAKING NO SENSE????
THE SHIT THERE PULLING OFF RIGHT NOW IS EQUALL TO OR GREATER THEN THE PROPAGANDA THAT HITLER FEED TO HIS - SHEEP - !!!!
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AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE.... THE BUSH FAM AND ASSOSIATES WILL HAVE A LOT MORE WEALTH AND A LOT MORE POWER THEN THEY HAD A COUPLE YEARS AGO.. AND THEN WHAT THEY GOT NOW....
SOME OF YOU NEED TO SEE THE BIG PICTURE...... U EVER THINK TO YOURSELF " IS THIS REALLY A WAR ON TERRORISM?? "..... OR SOME OF THIS SHIT HAPPENING REALLY AINT MAKING NO SENSE????
THE SHIT THERE PULLING OFF RIGHT NOW IS EQUALL TO OR GREATER THEN THE PROPAGANDA THAT HITLER FEED TO HIS - SHEEP - !!!!
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Well said. But in the end we are all just sitting ducks believing what we want to. I just hope most of you are at an intellectual level, where you can be wrong, and not look for another way to maintin your initial opinion when your first one fails to hold up. It stuns me at how relentless some people are when faced with questions they can not answer.
The thing is, I'm not puting the whole "staged attack" past the American government. I feel they are completely capable of creating it's own justifications for military intervention as seen in operation northwoods. So while it is hard for some people to realize this when I point the finger at Osama Bin Laden, I only do so because I look at what evidence I have (which is not AP news sites) and make a decision for myself. There is nothing in my eyes that clears Osama Bin Ladens name.
Operation Northwoods was conducted to make it look like Cuba was responsible for attacks on America, why would the U.S. use 17 Saudi's to establish justification to invade Iraq?
Osama Bin Laden is known to be the leader of a terrorist network al-Qaeda, which is responsible for dozens of attacks world wide, including the striking of U.S. embassies in different countries. They are adamantly targeting U.S. sites around the world. He helped the Taliban take control of Afghanistan, which harbored his network and coincidentally refused to turn him over when the U.S. asked for him; I wonder why. For these actions--and more that I am not going to list (bandwidth issues)--he was placed on the FBI's top 10 most wanted list, long before he was accused of the 9/11 attacks. Not only this, but after the attacks he continued to make threats towards America, and to it's participants of war.
Why didn't the U.S. ever plant nuclear weapons in Iraq? Instead they have Blair publicly tell the world that we have found no weapons, and we might never find them. Then gave a half ass apology for these conclusions. This was their reason for invading the country. Now listen closely. How can the U.S. employ such a huge scheme like toppling down the wtc towers, yet they couldn't make weapons appear in Iraq? If these conspiracies are true, how is it that this is a reality? I don't buy the fact that the U.S. can fund a terrorist network, successfuly complete the objective, establish "justification" for war on Iraq & Afghanistan, tell the world Iraq has WMD and invade the country; we did all this but we can't find/plant weapons in Iraq to satisfy the world and clear our name? LOGIC says that if 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq were at all preemtive, weapons would already be there.
I'm still not satisfied with why Bush deliberatley went after Osama when they are supposed to be in cahoots, when they could have said they were Iraqi terrorists.
This is just the beginning of what is stacked pile high in my mind, that leads me to believe that it was Osama Bin Laden, or possibly some other terrorist network linked to al-Qaeda. I can ask questions the same as you guys can, all I am asking for is not to be bullshitted.
The thing is, I'm not puting the whole "staged attack" past the American government. I feel they are completely capable of creating it's own justifications for military intervention as seen in operation northwoods. So while it is hard for some people to realize this when I point the finger at Osama Bin Laden, I only do so because I look at what evidence I have (which is not AP news sites) and make a decision for myself. There is nothing in my eyes that clears Osama Bin Ladens name.
Operation Northwoods was conducted to make it look like Cuba was responsible for attacks on America, why would the U.S. use 17 Saudi's to establish justification to invade Iraq?
Osama Bin Laden is known to be the leader of a terrorist network al-Qaeda, which is responsible for dozens of attacks world wide, including the striking of U.S. embassies in different countries. They are adamantly targeting U.S. sites around the world. He helped the Taliban take control of Afghanistan, which harbored his network and coincidentally refused to turn him over when the U.S. asked for him; I wonder why. For these actions--and more that I am not going to list (bandwidth issues)--he was placed on the FBI's top 10 most wanted list, long before he was accused of the 9/11 attacks. Not only this, but after the attacks he continued to make threats towards America, and to it's participants of war.
Why didn't the U.S. ever plant nuclear weapons in Iraq? Instead they have Blair publicly tell the world that we have found no weapons, and we might never find them. Then gave a half ass apology for these conclusions. This was their reason for invading the country. Now listen closely. How can the U.S. employ such a huge scheme like toppling down the wtc towers, yet they couldn't make weapons appear in Iraq? If these conspiracies are true, how is it that this is a reality? I don't buy the fact that the U.S. can fund a terrorist network, successfuly complete the objective, establish "justification" for war on Iraq & Afghanistan, tell the world Iraq has WMD and invade the country; we did all this but we can't find/plant weapons in Iraq to satisfy the world and clear our name? LOGIC says that if 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq were at all preemtive, weapons would already be there.
I'm still not satisfied with why Bush deliberatley went after Osama when they are supposed to be in cahoots, when they could have said they were Iraqi terrorists.
This is just the beginning of what is stacked pile high in my mind, that leads me to believe that it was Osama Bin Laden, or possibly some other terrorist network linked to al-Qaeda. I can ask questions the same as you guys can, all I am asking for is not to be bullshitted.
Is this directed at me? If so, I have not came to any one conclusion. As I stated before, I’m leaning in the direction of an ‘inside job’ or perhaps a better explanation would be ‘pre-knowledge.’
Remember, I’m not saying Osama was not involved…I’m sure he was. You’re right, why 17 Saudi’s? Why not go to war with Saudi Arabia? Why Iraq? Why didn’t we send more troops to Afghanistan, where the real terrorist live? We have more police in California then troops in Afghanistan. What type of shit is that? These are some of the many questions I have that lead me to believe this whole war on terror is complete bullshit just like the war against communism and the war on drugs.
Yes, I’m aware of all this. I remember reading about him a couple years before 9/11. One of my political sci. teachers used to talk about him all the time.
I don’t have the answer to this. Perhaps it’s harder then one thinks, since the U.N and really the rest of the world would have to see these weapons and factories or perhaps the bush admin. doesn’t really care. They’ve pretty much abandoned the whole WMD’s story and flipped the script and say it’s about liberating Iraq and removing Saddam. Maybe they think that’s good enough. Who knows?
You have to remember something – I don’t think Bush orchestrated it; the more likely possibility is that they knew the attacks were coming and let it happen. Just like FDR and Pearl Harbor. There is nothing better for big business then war. I don’t think Bush and Osama are comrades either. But it’s obvious they both use each other for their own political reasons.
I find it irritating that just a couple hours (or minutes?) after the attacks, FoxNews announced it was Osama. How did they know so fast? If they had that kind of intelligence, then surely there must have been intelligence days if not months before 9/11. And again, that either means the bush admin is utterly incompetent or they knew what was coming and deliberately did nothing.
Same here comrade…I want the truth as much as the next man.
Remember, I’m not saying Osama was not involved…I’m sure he was. You’re right, why 17 Saudi’s? Why not go to war with Saudi Arabia? Why Iraq? Why didn’t we send more troops to Afghanistan, where the real terrorist live? We have more police in California then troops in Afghanistan. What type of shit is that? These are some of the many questions I have that lead me to believe this whole war on terror is complete bullshit just like the war against communism and the war on drugs.
Yes, I’m aware of all this. I remember reading about him a couple years before 9/11. One of my political sci. teachers used to talk about him all the time.
I don’t have the answer to this. Perhaps it’s harder then one thinks, since the U.N and really the rest of the world would have to see these weapons and factories or perhaps the bush admin. doesn’t really care. They’ve pretty much abandoned the whole WMD’s story and flipped the script and say it’s about liberating Iraq and removing Saddam. Maybe they think that’s good enough. Who knows?
You have to remember something – I don’t think Bush orchestrated it; the more likely possibility is that they knew the attacks were coming and let it happen. Just like FDR and Pearl Harbor. There is nothing better for big business then war. I don’t think Bush and Osama are comrades either. But it’s obvious they both use each other for their own political reasons.
I find it irritating that just a couple hours (or minutes?) after the attacks, FoxNews announced it was Osama. How did they know so fast? If they had that kind of intelligence, then surely there must have been intelligence days if not months before 9/11. And again, that either means the bush admin is utterly incompetent or they knew what was coming and deliberately did nothing.
Same here comrade…I want the truth as much as the next man.