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EDJ said:
^ENOUgH WITH THE SARCASM. QUESTION IT. IT'S YOUR FREE WILL TO DO SO. BUT AS YOU QUESTION IT, SEEK ANSWERS. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYIN'.
I live freely that I don't need answers...the world is perfect the way it has been presented to me...anyway that I percieve the world, and the actions within, is my own perception. The world is the world...life is empty and meaningless, and it is meaningless that life is empty and meaningless...that is my mantra, and that is what gives me the freedom to define every moment of my life, and is why I don't decide on life, but rather I choose life. I don't live life because I was born, I live life because I choose to.
 
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YOUNGNUTT said:
^^^YOU DON'T CHOOSE SHIT, THE GOOD LORD GAVE YOU THIS LIFE TO LIVE, NOW THE QUESTION IS CAN YOU HANG???
Look man, my life is great...if you don't want to pay attention when game is being laced, that's cool. Just remeber this...no one has come back from death, no one has told us what it is, the great unknown awaits...until then, I am the only one I have to answer to on Earth, and until then I will be the only one making choices for me.
 
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EDJ said:
^LOL.

LMAC-A-DOCIOUS,

YOU NEED ANSWERS CAUSE YOU gOT QUESTIONS. WHY WE EVEN HERE? WHY DO WE EXIST? WE DO WE LIVE TO ONLY DIE? WHAT IS OUR PURPOSE?
Look mayne...I don't have these questions. I could give a fuck less why anyone is here...whats more I don't question what mine or anyone elses "purpose" is. Why waste my time? All of these "deep" questions are simple to me...you want to know "why" we are here...it's a simple answer...BECAUSE WE ARE. That's it...everything else is opinion/story/conversatin/fable/perception. These are questions that can only be answered by each individual, and I just don't care to bother myself with these questions.
 
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YOUNGNUTT said:
EVERBODY MINDS SOMEBODY!!!
That is an idea comming from a person who obviously "minds somebody," I take care of me, and everything comes up roses...the second I start questioning that, my integrity is out, I have no responsability to myself, my family, my friends, and I don't have any power over my life if I don't see myself as my own ruler.
 
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hmm perfect subject to get into philosophy.......

Some people believe in destiny, if destiny plays a role then the human race (no other species) was destined to be the end of earth itself, exploiting it's every resource and even other humans to continue to try to grow and survive. We (as a species) may be an instrument in a destroy/renewal cycle. Much like a forest fire caused by lightning destroys an overpopulated forest, but when plants and treelife begin regrowing the forest is much more healthier than before the fire.

Some people believe only science can provide answers, Biology suggests that we, along with every other species/bacteria/cell has one main purpose and that purpose is to pass on genes to offspring to help in the development and growth of our species.... pretty much meaning our main purpose is to reproduce.

Some people believe in a superior being, HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
 
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J-Funk said:
hmm perfect subject to get into philosophy.......

Some people believe in destiny, if destiny plays a role then the human race (no other species) was destined to be the end of earth itself, exploiting it's every resource and even other humans to continue to try to grow and survive. We (as a species) may be an instrument in a destroy/renewal cycle. Much like a forest fire caused by lightning destroys an overpopulated forest, but when plants and treelife begin regrowing the forest is much more healthier than before the fire.

Some people believe only science can provide answers, Biology suggests that we, along with every other species/bacteria/cell has one main purpose and that purpose is to pass on genes to offspring to help in the development and growth of our species.... pretty much meaning our main purpose is to reproduce.

Some people believe in a superior being, HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
LOL...nice take. I think there is a happy medium in there somewhere. I am steeped in the scientific notion, but I also believe in some form of spirituality. That doesn't necessarily mean a higher being...I think the "higher being" is closer to being each one of us than we care to think...we are all gods in my eyes, as corny as that may sound, it's how I feel. We invented all these ideas through language: monotheism, scientific expression, mathematics, the bible...all invented by people...Helen Keller, the blind/deaf/mute scientist who learned how to communicate, said that nothing existed for her in her "universe" until she gained the knowledge of language...ie. the chair in the room didn't even exist until the word "chair" could be associated with it...that's a very elementary description but it speaks to the power of language, and how it shapes our thinking.
 

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L Mac-a-docious said:
That is an idea comming from a person who obviously "minds somebody," I take care of me, and everything comes up roses...the second I start questioning that, my integrity is out, I have no responsability to myself, my family, my friends, and I don't have any power over my life if I don't see myself as my own ruler.
GUESS YOU'LL LEARN THE HARDWAY, BUT TRUST, SOMETIME IN YO LIFE
YOU GONE MIND SOMEBODY!!!
 

EDJ

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L MAC-A-DOCIOUS,

YOU STRESSED, "I live freely that I don't need answers..."

SO YOU THINK. EVERYBODY NEEDS ANSWERS CAUSE EVERYBODY HAS QUESTIONS. THIS WORLD AND EXISTENCE IS CONFUSIN' AS IT IS. IF YOU SAY YOU DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS THEN YOU REALLY AIN'T LIVED LIFE OR SEEN SHIT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "the world is perfect the way it has been presented to me..."

THAT'S THE THANg, WHO PRESENTED IT TO YOU, AND HOW DID THEY PRESENTED IT TO YOU? AND WHAT IS PERFECT?

YOU STRESSED, "anyway that I percieve the world, and the actions within, is my own perception.'

SO WHAT IS REAL? WHAT DO YOU PERCEIVE AS TRUTH?

YOU STRESSED, "The world is the world...life is empty and meaningless, and it is meaningless that life is empty and meaningless..."

HOW DO YOU FIgURE? DO YOU SET gOALS AND STRIVE TO FULFILL THEM? DO YOU KNOW HOW INTRICATE THIS MUTHA-FUKA(LIFE) IS? SO HOW CAN SOMETHIN' SO INTRICATE, WHICH CAN'T BE DUPLICATED BY MAN, BE MEANINgLESS?

YOU STRESSED, "that is my mantra, and that is what gives me the freedom to define every moment of my life, and is why I don't decide on life, but rather I choose life."

SO IN YOUR PERCEPTION, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHOOSIN' AND DECIDIN'? AND IN THIS INSTANCE WHY DO YOU "CHOOSE" INSTEAD OF "DECIDE ON"?

YOU STRESSED, "I don't live life because I was born, I live life because I choose to."

LIKE YOU HAVE A CHOICE. YOU WERE BORN, THUS YOU LIVE.
 
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Check it EDJ...
So I think? For someone who says that everyone has questions, you sure sound like you have all the answers. This world is confusing to who? Not to me, I don't ponder my existence, because what is to ponder? I'm here, and that's all I need to know. You think that because I don't question life I haven't seen shit...OK...I wouldn't even debate that, cause compared to my father, I haven't.
In terms of the world being perfect...it is perfectly what it is...the world. It can't be any other way than perfect...anything else is your perception of "a perfect world." And as far as who presented it to me, that was my parents, and then again by everyone that I have met along the way...even you are presenting the world to me right now.
Truth? What is truth? Truth is just another perception...something that is true for you may not be true for the next man...that should be obvious with our back and forth in this thread...a known truth for an American may not be so for an Iraqi, ya dig?
To me life is not intricate...it is very simple...the more you want to think and ponder it, of corse the more mind boggling it will get (Confusious said that if you open your mind too far, everything will fall out). Why do that? Life is what it is...if you got a flat tire and want to blame it on god, fine, but that is in your head...you could also say it was fate, or allah, or whatever you want to believe...or you could say it was just a flat tire. Oh and life is duplicated by man everyday with sex, and child birth.
When you decide on something, you make that decision based on a reason...when you choose something, you weigh out the reasons, and after consideration, you make your choice...it is a distinction that seems minute, but has been very big for me in my life. Deciding, is like leaving your mind up to the circumstances, while choosing allows you to own your choice...even if there is only one choice, you get to own it, and it is yours to make, nothing is "left up to the gods."
In terms of the "You were born, thus you live," not true. I know plenty of people who are clinically alive, ie. they have a pulse, and are breathing, but they are, for all intents and purposes, dead. "You aint gotta be in jail if your doing time," you don't have to be dead to not be living, that is why you must choose life, and live it on your terms, and not as it is given to you...life is only a bitch if you let it be that...you have all the control, if you want it...or you can just sit back, and hope that fate delt you a good hand...I'd rather not.
 

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L MAC-A-DOCIOUS,

YOU STRESSED, "So I think? "

YES YOU DO. I ALREADY STATED WHY YOU CAN'T JUST CHOOSE TO LIVE LIFE FREELY TO WHERE YOU FEEL YOU DON'T NEED ANSWERS. REALITY IS THAT WE ALL DO, YOUR PERCEPTION IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "For someone who says that everyone has questions, you sure sound like you have all the answers."

I'LL TAKE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT. BUT NOBODY HAS ALL THE ANSWERS OR KNOWS IT ALL. ALL WE CAN DO IS SOAK SOMETHIN' NEW EVERYDAY AND STRIVE TO FIND TRUTH.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "This world is confusing to who?"

TO EVERYONE AND N-E-ONE. JUST LOOK.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Not to me, I don't ponder my existence, because what is to ponder? I'm here, and that's all I need to know."

DON'T FOOL YOURSELF. YOU AIN'T EXCLUDED. ALL YOU KNOW IS THAT YOU IS ALIVE. LOOK AT THE SKIES ABOVE OR NEXT TIME YOU IN A PLANE OR BOUT JUST LOOK AT NATURE AND IT'S SCENERY. HOW THE FUK THAT HAPPEN?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You think that because I don't question life I haven't seen shit..."

YOU HAVEN'T DWELLED ON THAT THOUgHT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT CROSSED YOUR MIND SOME WAY SOMEHOW, BUT YOU CHOSE NOT TO BOTHER OR MARINATE ON IT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "OK...I wouldn't even debate that, cause compared to my father, I haven't."

THEN SOAK UP WHAT POPS IS SPITTIN' WHILE YOU HAVE SIMILAK ON YOUR BREATH.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "In terms of the world being perfect...it is perfectly what it is...the world."

[BTHAT'S THE THANg, WHAT IS THE WORLD?][/B]

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It can't be any other way than perfect...anything else is your perception of "a perfect world."

SO WHAT IS PERFECT, SINCE YOU FIgURE THAT THE DEFINITION IS INDIVIDUALLY PERCEIVED?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "And as far as who presented it to me, that was my parents, and then again by everyone that I have met along the way...even you are presenting the world to me right now."

I'M JUST SPITTIN' gAME PLAYA. I AIN'T PERFECT SO HOW CAN I PRESENT YOU SOMETHIN' PERFECT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Truth? What is truth? Truth is just another perception...something that is true for you may not be true for the next man...that should be obvious with our back and forth in this thread...a known truth for an American may not be so for an Iraqi, ya dig?

YES, TRUTH. NO, ONE'S PERCEPTION MIgHT BE INTEPRETTED AS TRUTH OR BE ACCEPT AS, BUT AT THE END, THERE'S ONE ULTIMATE TRUTH. SO WHAT IS TRUTH? IT'S THE INTEgRITY OF SOMETHIN'. IT CAN BE PERCEIVED, WARPED, MISCONSTRUED, ETC... IN WHATEVA WAY, BUT AT THE END, IT'S STILL THE SAME.

ANSWER THIS: IF A BUDDHIST AND CATHOLIC MARRY AND HAVE A CHILD AND THAT CHILD DIES AFTER IT IS BORN, WHO'S FAITH FATE DOES THAT CHILD ADHERE TO? IN OTHA WORDS, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT CHILD?


THEN YOU STRESSED, "To me life is not intricate...it is very simple..."

WITH THAT ATTITUDE, YOU SEEM gULLIBLE AND NAIVE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "the more you want to think and ponder it, of corse the more mind boggling it will get"

NO SHIT, CAUSE IT'S INTRICATE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "(Confusious said that if you open your mind too far, everything will fall out)."

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU BASE YOUR BELIEFS ON, CONFUSCIONISM OR WHATEVA IT'S CALLED? SO YOU BELIEVE IF YOU USE YOUR BRAIN MORE AND EXERCISE IT, THAT YOU WILL HURT IT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Why do that?"

CAUSE MAYBE YOU HAVE TO BE REAL WITH YOURSELF, NOT BE gULLIBLE OR FOOL YOURSELF, AND NOT BE SCARED TO USE YOUR MIND.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Life is what it is...if you got a flat tire and want to blame it on god, fine, but that is in your head...you could also say it was fate, or allah, or whatever you want to believe...or you could say it was just a flat tire."

SEE YOUNgSTA, YOU ALL CAUgHT UP IN WHAT MISPERCEPTION OF WHAT PEOPLE DO WHEN SHIT HAPPENS. PEOPLE WANT TO BLAME (gOD) OR BELIEVE (gOD) DOES EVIL TO MAKE YOU LEARN. THAT AIN'T PART OF HIS PERSONALITY(ACCORDIN' TO SCRIPTURE). IT IS WHAT YOU SAY. A FLAT TIRE IS A FLAT TIRE. OF COURSE THERE CAN BE SITUATIONS THAT HAPPEN FOR A REASON, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT SUBJECT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Oh and life is duplicated by man everyday with sex, and child birth."

COME ON MAN, OR YOU THAT DENSE? MAN DID NOT CREATE SEX. THAT WAS gIVEN TO US NATURALLY. I'M TALKIN' ABOUT MAN REPRODUCIN' THAT FUNCTION ARTIFICIALLY WITH HIS OWN HANDS AND MIND AND IMPLEMENTIN' IT ON SOMETHIN' HE CREATED(LIKE A ROBOT OR SOME KIND CHEMICAL REACTION).

THEN YOU STRESSED, "When you decide on something, you make that decision based on a reason...when you choose something, you weigh out the reasons, and after consideration, you make your choice...it is a distinction that seems minute, but has been very big for me in my life."

SO YOU SAYIN' THAT A DECISION IS BASED ON ONE THANg, AND A CHOICE ON MULTPLE THANgS?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Deciding, is like leaving your mind up to the circumstances, while choosing allows you to own your choice...even if there is only one choice, you get to own it, and it is yours to make, nothing is "left up to the gods."

SO NOW YOU SAYIN' THAT A CHOICE CAN ONLY BE BASED ON ONE THANg NOW? SO A DECISION IS MADE ON AN OCCURENCE WHICH YOU MAY NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER, AND A CHOICE IS SOMETHIN' YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "In terms of the "You were born, thus you live," not true. I know plenty of people who are clinically alive, ie. they have a pulse, and are breathing, but they are, for all intents and purposes, dead."

AND YOU SAY THAT THEY SHOULD BE DEAD?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You aint gotta be in jail if your doing time," you don't have to be dead to not be living, that is why you must choose life, and live it on your terms, and not as it is given to you..."

YOU SHOULD BE A MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER. LOL BUT SOME THINgS ARE THE WAY THEY ARE. CAN YOU PREVENT DEATH IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO DO SO? CAN YOU CHOOSE NOT TO BE JUMPED IF YOU'RE ATTACCED OUT OF NOWHERE?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "life is only a bitch if you let it be that...you have all the control, if you want it...or you can just sit back, and hope that fate delt you a good hand...I'd rather not.

LIFE IS A BITCH PERIOD. IF YOU WERE BORN INTO POVERTY, YOU CAN'T JUST SNAP YOUR FINgERS AND THEN YOU RICH. YOU HAVE TO STRUggLE TO EVEN BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE, IF THAT IS WHAT YOU CHOOSE. YOU ACT LIKE JUST CAUSE YOU CHOOSE, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY THERE. THE WORLD DON'T WORK LIKE THAT. JUST LIKE YOU CAN'T EXPECT ME TO RESPECT YOU JUST CAUSE YOU THINK THAT YOU CHOSE THAT I RESPECTED YOU. YOU HAVE TO EARN MY RESPECT, YOU CAN'T CHOOSE IT.
 
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SEE YOUNgSTA, YOU ALL CAUgHT UP IN WHAT MISPERCEPTION OF WHAT PEOPLE DO WHEN SHIT HAPPENS. PEOPLE WANT TO BLAME (gOD) OR BELIEVE (gOD) DOES EVIL TO MAKE YOU LEARN. THAT AIN'T PART OF HIS PERSONALITY(ACCORDIN' TO SCRIPTURE).

.....do u know the man personally EDJ?


SO THAT'S WHAT YOU BASE YOUR BELIEFS ON, CONFUSCIONISM OR WHATEVA IT'S CALLED? SO YOU BELIEVE IF YOU USE YOUR BRAIN MORE AND EXERCISE IT, THAT YOU WILL HURT IT?

.....not as dumb as believing in christianity i'd say, confuscionism is based on wisdom and the opening up of the mind... not the crazy fables of an ancient people.
 
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L Mac-a-docious said:
I am steeped in the scientific notion, but I also believe in some form of spirituality. That doesn't necessarily mean a higher being...I think the "higher being" is closer to being each one of us than we care to think...we are all gods in my eyes, as corny as that may sound, it's how I feel. We invented all these ideas through language: monotheism, scientific expression, mathematics, the bible...all invented by people...Helen Keller, the blind/deaf/mute scientist who learned how to communicate, said that nothing existed for her in her "universe" until she gained the knowledge of language...ie. the chair in the room didn't even exist until the word "chair" could be associated with it...that's a very elementary description but it speaks to the power of language, and how it shapes our thinking.
Helen Keller also didn't try to hide her farts, because she didn't know they made sound.