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Gemini

Gemini

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I spoken to SMMWest on the phone before over a few things dealing with music.

He gave me a few leads and contacts. Dude's down to earth and didn't have to give me anything. And did free of charge. The reality is, nothing is a promise in the music business. Even if it's written in the the contract and signed, it can be breached. That's one of the major things people don't understand when dealing with majors etc etc.

There are some majors and publishers who won't even talk to you unless you go through the proper channels. They don't want the artist themselves going in and try to sell him / her self. they want your manager to go in and talk to them for you.

You can even go through the proper channels and pay certain fees and told, no. Just like that.

I know there are people in here who have more knowledge of these things. And have gone through these labels. Just like there are some that never even spoke to anybody at a label, but act like they about to blow.
 
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I have been getting some e-mails asking me when the deadline is for this first Compilation of the Series. The deadline is May 31st. It should only take 7 Business Days at the Manufacturing Plant.

That said don't try to wait until the very last minute, because if we can take it to print early that really helps everyone involved.

Also someone just contacted me from Germany. And I gave dude a direct contact to me to send the track so it wouldn't be sitting at the Post Office waiting for me to sign for it. I will feel out some of you out of state catz and if your trust worthy shoot you the direct contact to me for your tracks.

Everyone stay up, Stay making your music, and most of all Stay GRINDIN' (it is the work ethic).
 
Gemini

Gemini

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SMMWest said:
Gemini,

Whats good man? Hope all is going well? THANKS for the kind words.
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I been good, Bro. Thank you.

Don't even trip, Mayne. I just see a lot of people who are paranoid when it comes to the music business. In all fairness, they have every right to be. Being that we all heard horror stories from it, so it's only right to stay on our toes. We live and learn & most should just STFU & listen at times LOL!!!!

Anyhow, reason I say that is: I was filling out the ASCAP application for this one underground artist and he said, he wanted to take the app. and let his lawyer see it first LMAO!!!!!

First of all, the broke muthphucka didn't have a lawyer and second, that would be like taking a job application to a lawyer and asking if you filled it out correctly LOL!!!!

Cutting it short here, this was in 2000 and he still don't have his publishings to this day. Like most artist are concerned about blowing up and signing to a major and careful to not get ripped off, but don't even own their own publishings LOL!!!! It makes no fuckin' sense!

Artist like Too $hort been saying it since back in the day. Own your own publishings and don't get ripped off by these majors.
 
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Gemini said:
I been good, Bro. Thank you.

Don't even trip, Mayne. I just see a lot of people who are paranoid when it comes to the music business. In all fairness, they have every right to be. Being that we all heard horror stories from it, so it's only right to stay on our toes. We live and learn & most should just STFU & listen at times LOL!!!!

Anyhow, reason I say that is: I was filling out the ASCAP application for this one underground artist and he said, he wanted to take the app. and let his lawyer see it first LMAO!!!!!

First of all, the broke muthphucka didn't have a lawyer and second, that would be like taking a job application to a lawyer and asking if you filled it out correctly LOL!!!!

Cutting it short here, this was in 2000 and he still don't have his publishings to this day. Like most artist are concerned about blowing up and signing to a major and careful to not get ripped off, but don't even own their own publishings LOL!!!! It makes no fuckin' sense!

Artist like Too $hort been saying it since back in the day. Own your own publishings and don't get ripped off by these majors.
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Glad your doing good bro. Man your post is something that needs to be a sticky. It is funny but it is so true.

And I understand artists being scared about scams that is human nature, but before most post they should do research. If they would of at least checked my post on the siccness alone then they would of seen the topics of which I have started and the knowledge of which I have and have NO problem sharing.

Yeah man I just had the Model on my cover to my new single (who did it for promotion to push her on career forward) come back to me the day it got Radio Airplay and say hey aren't I entitled to proceeds and publishing? Ha ha ha ha. Its like how do you get publishing rights to a song that you didn't write, record, produce, mix or engineer and you want money off the song itself, WOW!

And a lot of these cats hear more established artists talk about all the ways to get paid, and they think that they are going to or deserve to get paid like that off of their very first song. Remember the days of being that wet around the gills and thinking that your very first project was going to go Platinum, that it was going to be in Major Radio Rotation and that you were going to have a Video spinning every half hour on MTV. Oh those were the days. LMAO.

Stay Up Fam, and THANK YOU so much for the post.
 
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jake921660 said:
Dude seems legit. If I rapped Id send him 20 bucks and a quality track and try and get me on a CD. Whats the worst thats gonna happen?
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Right On Man. A lot of artists don't have the money to print up a cd, pay a graphic artists and them plus get it distributed to the correct channels. This is "their" chance to actually get that music placed onto a cd and get something to actually add to their resume' and/or bio. You gotta start building a track record. What better place to start?
 
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No disrespect at all, but to the people that submitted tracks but didn't pay the $20. Sorry but your tracks won't be used. Some of those tracks are really on FIRE to. I am sure that you guys will find something to do with them, seriously that is some good music. I am really surprised at the quality of music that has been submitted. I was using this as a tool to help some people polish their craft, life get on each of the Series and let people see the improvement. Some people are already there though, and it is a shame that they don't have the money to properly finance their own project completely.

Sorry for that run on sentence, and everyone keep pushing. There is some talent out there that is wayyyy better then what we have been hearing. The submissions are proving that point.
 
408mobsta

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lol...Dog...

Don't come on the Siccness expecting people to be on your jock.

You came onto a fuckign underground gangster rap web site, to the OPEN FORUM which is for BULLSHIT....and you try to post somethin serious?

Fuck outta here with that.

lol @ $75 per slot. BALLIN ON THAT EH? Fuck, you do 10 songs, and you got $ for food and weed for a month.

I don't care about your googling shit.....I'm sayin, you came to an interesting place to post this "serious" offer......to me, this is a joke just cause of where you posted it.

Any artist who takes this seriously, must be fuckign struggling to be heard. Nobody I know would EVER pay to be put on soemthing. The fuckign music speaks for itself...either you want it on your shit or you dont', and then you pay the artist for their work....

Sounds like some gay ass scam to get $20 from each stupid fuck on here. Good idea! I'll post something about music videos in a month, telling people to send me their videos and i"ll get them played on MTV for $100 every submission.:siccness:
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lol damm shit was funny
 
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L-Love :: Jealousy and Envy (East County Gamers II) :: At Home Recordings
as reviewed by Pedro 'DJ Complejo' Hernandez
"East County Gamers II" is a very confusing project. On the one hand the double album features some of the best known names in Cali rap, from Crooked I to B-Legit, making the project seem at least somewhat professional. On the other hand, L-Love and the rest of the "East County Gamers" are some of the most amateurish rappers I've heard. There's no doubt L-Love is a true hustler and he's also cocky as all heck. His hustle skills are obvious by the fact that this is the second installment in the "East County Gamers" series and he has a third release planned already. While merely releasing albums isn't impressive in itself, the guest spots he's managed to get are. Aside from a worthy cast of supporting rappers, L-Love also has producers such as Soopafly and L.T. Hutton lending a hand. But all the hustle and cockiness in the world can't make up for the fact that L-Love has little to no skills on the mic or the MPC. Even fellow "East County Gamers" like Pola Bear barely manage to stumble through verses. L-Love's hustle is definitely commended, but if he wants to last in the rap game he'll need to step up his product.

"East County Gamers II" can easily be divided into two parts, songs featuring other more established acts and songs featuring only L-Love and his crew. The tracks that feature established acts are head and shoulders above anything put out by L-Love but they still fail to be anything but average. B-Legit appears on "Freak-Play" though the title gives you a good idea of the sex-driven dribble that the track amounts to. Even B-Legit's distinct voice and flow can't pull this track up. Usually solid Smoov-E cooks up an unimpressive verse for the Nocturnal Hustler's "Dirty Work." Coupled with the generic synthetic production, the track is mediocre. Even tracks featuring Bad Azz and Crooked I on the first disc of the compilation are nothing more than uninspired and stereotypical West coast gangsta anthems.

But despite the fact that every potentially dope track is nothing more than average, the compilation manages to get even worse when L-Love and his homies show up. L-Love Pola Bear probably hold down at least half, if not more of the album. This is a significant amount especially considering this is a double CD. Their performances reek of amateur and low budget tendencies. I tried not to judge this project upon seeing the cover art, consisting of a grainy and out of focus picture of L-Love throwing up a dub on a dining chair, but it seems my gut instincts were on point. Even the record label releasing this project hints at the inexperience as it's called At Home Records. Most of the beats L-Love and Pola Bear flow over consist of very simple loops with little depth. Some do sound decent, like the string driven "Cali Life," but they still fail to match up with what's found on professional releases. Pola Bear himself isn't too bad of a rapper, but his flow and lyrics are reminiscent of West coast rappers a good ten years ago. Back then it might have been considered dope, but today it sounds simple compared to acts like Xzibit, Snoop, and Mac Dre who all showed the West was about much more than identical gang experiences. But L-Love himself doesn't even manage to reach the level of stereotypical and average West coast rapper. His flow is almost childish as his simple lines still require him to pause in order to match his cadence from line to line. His lyrics range from stereotypical gangsta brags to metaphors and similes that might have been dope twenty years ago. He even has problems with pronunciation at times, likely due to his breath control, which makes it hard to hear him. Basically, L-Love still has a very long way to go before he can compete with even the most mediocre established emcee.

L-Love and the East County Gamers should be avoided at all costs unless you have some personal interest vested in either the Gamers themselves or East County. Better West coast rap can be found by the trunk full elsewhere. With time and development, the East County Gamers may be able to hone their craft, but for the time being they need to stay at home a bit longer before they try to push a legitimate album.

Music Vibes: 3 of 10 Lyric Vibes: 2 of 10 TOTAL Vibes: 2.5 of 10

Originally posted: November 15, 2005
source: www.RapReviews.com
 
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