Vietnam in HD ( History Channel )

[S.SAVAGE]

I watched part 1 last night on History channel & this was a dope ass documentary. The rest airs this week.

Though I do not agree with the Vietnam war, it gives me great respect for the guys who endured some of the battles.

It is going to go into how the soldiers started to no longer value human life in the next segment.

But this is a damn good show, for those who want to see some shit in color / HD.

I have several family members who cant even speak on their tours in Vietnam without either crying, or completely going into flashbacks & losing control. My Godfather watched his best friend get killed by a 14 year old village girl, he shot her dead. He says he still has nightmares from it. My stepdad did 2 tours there, as well as my uncle, both get lost in the memories, & start to drift when it gets brought up to them.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

good shit. so many lives lost and shattered over some bullshit.

 

[S.SAVAGE]

I just realized the video posted is not the one I saw on History last night, my bad.

 

[S.SAVAGE]

good shit. so many lives lost and shattered over some bullshit.

I agree... the atrocities that went on over there are some of the most horrible war crimes I could even think of in modern times ( that we know of )

But when the soldiers left they never even heard of Vietnam, they get there & the South Vietnamese villagers are stashing the same guns & bombs that are killing their fellow service men so they rape & pillage them all & set the huts on fire. Crazy shit & not a place for these 18 / 19 year old boys to be changing into men. very sad for all parties involved.

 

[Ethereal]

This looks really good. Can't wait to watch it.

 

[ColdBlooded]

So wait. The History Channel has got a show that is about history? WTF!?!

 

[S.SAVAGE]

So wait. The History Channel has got a show that is about history? WTF!?!

not sure... but let me call a buddy of mine who is an expert on these types of things & get this all figured out.

 

[DeceptaKhan]

last nights episode was awesome,shit gave me goosebumps,some of the footage is raw shit,like some dude with his eye hangin out of his head gets carted into a chopper

thoroughly looking forward to this

 

[STICK-N-MOVE]

well im gonna check it out. i just hope it isnt biased and they show both sides of the story because if you think they seen worst those people in the villages had to see their entire family tree get slaughtered.

 

[Nuttkase]

Yeah I'm recording all three because I've had to work. I'm going to watch them split up between Sun/Mon on my days off.

 

[HUERO''909]

I agree... the atrocities that went on over there are some of the most horrible war crimes I could even think of in modern times ( that we know of )

But when the soldiers left they never even heard of Vietnam, they get there & the South Vietnamese villagers are stashing the same guns & bombs that are killing their fellow service men so they rape & pillage them all & set the huts on fire. Crazy shit & not a place for these 18 / 19 year old boys to be changing into men. very sad for all parties involved.

That massacre/war crimes shit really wasn't as common as the media and Hollywood made it out to be...The vast majority served honorably over there. There's a lot of myths around the war that aren't really very true or are only partly so...

http://www.11thcavnam.com/education/vietnam_war_myths.htm

anyways, the doc was pretty good...I liked the parts about Ia Drang and Dak To/875 a lot. They could have had a Vietnamese perspective...maybe a ARVN soldier or civilian or something...but I guess they were just trying to get the American experience like in the World War II in HD series they had a awhile back...which is dope also...

 

[BUTCHER 206]

 

[ColdBlooded]

I've been recording these and watching when I can. I'm almost through the first one.

I've gotta say so far I'm very disappointed. It is like one big propaganda piece justifying the war so far.

Gulf of Tonkin - nothing about it being bullshit. Just played off like that's what really went down.

That first "battle" half the U.S. soldiers die and all we have is an unconfirmed body count of the VC and it is called a huge U.S. victory that they compair to Iwo Jima. What a load of shit.

Visually it is cool.

 

[WT SAVAGE]

what day and time is this on?
edit anyone got links for this????

 

[HUERO''909]

I've been recording these and watching when I can. I'm almost through the first one.

I've gotta say so far I'm very disappointed. It is like one big propaganda piece justifying the war so far.

Gulf of Tonkin - nothing about it being bullshit. Just played off like that's what really went down.

That first "battle" half the U.S. soldiers die and all we have is an unconfirmed body count of the VC and it is called a huge U.S. victory that they compair to Iwo Jima. What a load of shit.

Visually it is cool.

Half the US Soldiers DID NOT die at LZ X-Ray...one Cav battalion at X-Ray defeated a much superior number of NVA(not VC) troops in a 3 day engagement at X-Ray...It was a pretty impressive feat...especially considering damn near all the Cav troopers at X-Ray had never been in combat before. 79 US Soldiers died at X-Ray...

 

[ColdBlooded]

Show said something like 200+. And they said they were sending in 400. So . . .

 

[HUERO''909]

Show said something like 200+. And they said they were sending in 400. So . . .

That was the bigger battle in the 'WHOLE' Ia Drang...LZ X-Ray was one part of that battle and the most well known part of it. And LZ X-ray was what they were talking about during the whole "putting the flag in the tree and calling it and comparing it to Iwo Jima"..On smaller scale I would agree. Read the book 'We Were Soldiers...Once and Young" for a good explanation of LZ X-Ray and the wider battle of Ia Drang. It's not a one sided All American kind of book either...definately gives the NVA their props for their performance in the battle...obviously, they were no pushovers...

 

[iaoish]

Do they actually show the story from both sides then?
I would like to learn a little bit more about what happened over there in that period.

I've visited the Vietnam War museum in Ho Chi Min City. Shit is sickening, people are still being born with defects because of the agent orange, they showed. So many civilians died, it was hard to walk around in that place without feeling deeply depressed..

 

[ColdBlooded]

No it is the U.S. side w/ a little South Vietnam military mixed in. Virtually nothing abou the people of Vietnam, history of anti-colonial imperialism, north vietnam, etc.

They do have a cute little romantic story about a loyal military house wife and how she pines away for her POW husband until the end of the war.

 

[iaoish]

Hmmm... then there is no need for anybody to watch this show!

I am lightweight drunk at the moment so I'll leave it at this right now before I step on someone's toes..