Video leaked of US army indiscriminately killing Afghan civilians
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Surely it does!
I mean, you have people that are clearly damaged goods who are willing to murder themselves along with other innocent people just to feel like their life meant something.....and here comes the U.S. to give them a reason to end their pathetic lives.
Only...not really.
I won't bother claiming certain people here are liberals or this label or that one applies, because it really doesn't matter. What does matter is not understanding that killing yourself and other innocent civilians is a cowardly move no matter the motive. It does absolutely nothing to further your cause. It proves no point.
There are an entire class of people out there who absolutely do not want to see the U.S. succeed in either Iraq or Afghanistan--the prospect of it alone terrifies them. Some of those people carry around RPGs and AK-47s......some of those people carry the mental equivalent, and live among us, in our own backyards.
All I can say to you is, get over it. It is what it is, and you can't change it. Sooner or later, People and Corporations will rule everything, and the last remaining Dictatorships will be overthrown. Fear used to rule...now Cash does.
If you don't like it, I'm sure there's some other countries out there that would love to have you. And don't give me that bullshit about you've "been trying", because you are a liar. If you're smart enough to get on the internet and be a troll and bait people into arguments (and do petty things like bash them for using ALL CAPS), then you're smart enough to develop a well-paying trade, save up a few thousand dollars, and move out of the country.
I'm done here.
I mean, you have people that are clearly damaged goods who are willing to murder themselves along with other innocent people just to feel like their life meant something.....and here comes the U.S. to give them a reason to end their pathetic lives.
Only...not really.
I won't bother claiming certain people here are liberals or this label or that one applies, because it really doesn't matter. What does matter is not understanding that killing yourself and other innocent civilians is a cowardly move no matter the motive. It does absolutely nothing to further your cause. It proves no point.
There are an entire class of people out there who absolutely do not want to see the U.S. succeed in either Iraq or Afghanistan--the prospect of it alone terrifies them. Some of those people carry around RPGs and AK-47s......some of those people carry the mental equivalent, and live among us, in our own backyards.
All I can say to you is, get over it. It is what it is, and you can't change it. Sooner or later, People and Corporations will rule everything, and the last remaining Dictatorships will be overthrown. Fear used to rule...now Cash does.
If you don't like it, I'm sure there's some other countries out there that would love to have you. And don't give me that bullshit about you've "been trying", because you are a liar. If you're smart enough to get on the internet and be a troll and bait people into arguments (and do petty things like bash them for using ALL CAPS), then you're smart enough to develop a well-paying trade, save up a few thousand dollars, and move out of the country.
I'm done here.
Blame is irrelevant and completely arbitrary. Ask 100 people and you may just get 100 different answers of who is to blame in a situation.
The only relevant issue here is the debate between causation and correlation, whereby correlation does not imply causation.
Fact - The US has increased its presence
Fact - Suicide bombings have increased
Therefore, the only question worth debating is; are the influx in suicide bombings caused by the US presence, or is the increase simply a case of data correlation, with something else being the cause.
Everything else; blame, right, wrong, etc is all irrelevant to the discussion of the relationship between the two facts.
Either the US presence is causing the bombings, the bombings are causing the increased US presence, or something else is causing the bombings to increase and the relationship of the above data is simply a correlation. Those are the only logical opinions, and the only things that can be debated objectively.
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Blame and cause are entirely different things.
Blaming is irrelevant because it is subjective. Blame is an action of assigning responsibility that can be done with or without supportive data backup. I can blame you for whatever I want.
Causation and correlation cannot be determined without supportive evidence
Blame - Is the US to blame for the increase in bombings?
That answer is based on an individuals perspective. Maybe Great Britain is to blame for the increase in bombings because they were a catalyst in the formation of the US as an entity.
Cause - Did the US cause the increase in bombings?
Cannot be answered subjectively; evidence provides the inevitable conclusion of Yes. Good luck trying to show Great Britain caused the increase in bombings.