Venezuela votes to eliminate Term Limits for President...
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It's not "every poor nation" that wants a piece of America, it's the nations where America went to and exploited the fuck out of, put their hand in the politics or a combination of both. Mexico, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Chile, Bolivia, there's many countries.
Things like NAFTA and CAFTA are going to have reactions and you better believe it...
Just look at how much power the Cartels have in Mexico, and it just so happens that Mexico has a revolution every hundred years. 1810, 1910, now 2010 is coming up, to go along with 2012 in a couple of years. Be ready...
Things like NAFTA and CAFTA are going to have reactions and you better believe it...
Just look at how much power the Cartels have in Mexico, and it just so happens that Mexico has a revolution every hundred years. 1810, 1910, now 2010 is coming up, to go along with 2012 in a couple of years. Be ready...
Of course, I get into these debates all the time and the socialist/communist crowed pathologically denies the simple fact that what they support is actually communism or socialism because they are "bad words"
Of course you're going to use the logic that Chavez was actually elected so hence he really cant be a dictator by default.
And to claim Chavez isnt a socialist is downright insane. Maybe you dont know what socialism actually is.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g-XT1LHvGnHwytS8tnBmfnd_BcqgD96CIANG3
[=quote] Chavez calls Venezuela vote mandate for socialism
By CHRISTOPHER TOOTHAKER – 2 days ago
CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — President Hugo Chavez says a referendum victory that removed limits on his re-election is a mandate to intensify his socialist agenda for decades to come. Opponents warn of an impending dictatorship.[=/quote]
Of course you're going to use the logic that Chavez was actually elected so hence he really cant be a dictator by default.
And to claim Chavez isnt a socialist is downright insane. Maybe you dont know what socialism actually is.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g-XT1LHvGnHwytS8tnBmfnd_BcqgD96CIANG3
[=quote] Chavez calls Venezuela vote mandate for socialism
By CHRISTOPHER TOOTHAKER – 2 days ago
CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — President Hugo Chavez says a referendum victory that removed limits on his re-election is a mandate to intensify his socialist agenda for decades to come. Opponents warn of an impending dictatorship.[=/quote]
I wonder how many people will actually run against him? I got the feeling he will overwhelmingly win in elections until hes dead.
Of course I have the feeling that some will paint Chavez as this honest man that doesnt have a Socialist dictatorship agenda that could very well turn into full blow Communism with in 10 years.
Of course I have the feeling that some will paint Chavez as this honest man that doesnt have a Socialist dictatorship agenda that could very well turn into full blow Communism with in 10 years.
Well I don't know any socialists or communists that think they are bad words. I myself think of them among the best. But that is why I hold them to such a standard.
Many people don't understand what either of those socio-economic political systems are. There are people on both the left and the right that do, YET they purposfully ignore it and modify the term to fit their own agenda.
Chavez himself being what he considers to be a socialist does not mean the country is socialist or the government is socialist. No matter how much he or you say it. Wishing does not make it real.
The U.S. senate has a socialist member. Is the senate socialist?
China has a government that is controled by a political party that calls itself communist. Yet, China is about as far from being communist as the U.S.
Term limits do not make a dictator.
Is Alvaro Uribe a dictator? What about Michael Bloomberg?
"In a referendum that directly determines to possibility of the continued governance of President Chávez, the "Yes" campaign won with 54.4% of the vote in a turnout of around 70%. Were Chávez truly a demagogue, and were there truly a strident personality cult, we would expect the results and turnout of such a referendum to differ dramatically to elections not directly concerned with Chávez the man. Yet November's regional elections saw a turnout of 65%, and as with the referendum, the popular vote was won by around 10%. The dramatic similarity of the two results, and their significantly different subjects suggests a common denominator, loyalty or opposition to the government's project as a whole, rather than to the man in particular. "
You need to pick up a book and turn off the univision.
Many people don't understand what either of those socio-economic political systems are. There are people on both the left and the right that do, YET they purposfully ignore it and modify the term to fit their own agenda.
Chavez himself being what he considers to be a socialist does not mean the country is socialist or the government is socialist. No matter how much he or you say it. Wishing does not make it real.
The U.S. senate has a socialist member. Is the senate socialist?
China has a government that is controled by a political party that calls itself communist. Yet, China is about as far from being communist as the U.S.
Term limits do not make a dictator.
Is Alvaro Uribe a dictator? What about Michael Bloomberg?
"In a referendum that directly determines to possibility of the continued governance of President Chávez, the "Yes" campaign won with 54.4% of the vote in a turnout of around 70%. Were Chávez truly a demagogue, and were there truly a strident personality cult, we would expect the results and turnout of such a referendum to differ dramatically to elections not directly concerned with Chávez the man. Yet November's regional elections saw a turnout of 65%, and as with the referendum, the popular vote was won by around 10%. The dramatic similarity of the two results, and their significantly different subjects suggests a common denominator, loyalty or opposition to the government's project as a whole, rather than to the man in particular. "
You need to pick up a book and turn off the univision.
Communism = Rich government and poor people!
Look at the USSR, China and to some extent North Korea, all be it NK is more of a fascist government but I NK could apply to this argument.
Communism and Socialism has failed large countries, time and time again. China actually realizes this now and they are going semi-capitalist while retaining a fascist/communist social order.
Look at the USSR, China and to some extent North Korea, all be it NK is more of a fascist government but I NK could apply to this argument.
Communism and Socialism has failed large countries, time and time again. China actually realizes this now and they are going semi-capitalist while retaining a fascist/communist social order.
