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lol the most epic judging fuck up in the history of the UFC

at least Uncle Creepy isn't gonna have that L on his record from a bad decision, lol I don't even think Mighty Mouse deserved a draw, but hopefully the rematch happens soons.
 
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I just really thought about it and I know why Thiago fucked up and went for that take down. All the fucked up judges decisions lately probably made him want to get a takedown just to score somemore points and not get fucked over by the judges even though he dominated the majority of that fight.

The judging is getting so bad you got Muay Thai guys trying to get takedowns for point fighting. This shit is getting sad.
 

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I disagree. This is the problem with 3 round fights being important. The first 2 rounds didn't have much separating them and McCall clearly won the last round.
I agree with u but Johnson was easily the better fighter standing up and won the first two rounds in my book so to me he won the fight. Got Em!!

How I scored it

Round 1 had even striking with McCall getting 2 takes downs = round 1 McCall
Round 2 had even striking with Mighty Mouse getting harder strikes landed = round 2 Mighty Mouse
Round 3 not even close McCall wins easy
Bullshit! There wasnt no even striking goin on. Johnson was clearly the better striker in the first two rounds. McCall is lucky he finally was able to hold him on the ground in the last round or it wouldve been a clean sweep. Johnson won that fight. Got Em!!

Joe B vs Mouse will be sick but I couldn't give half a fuck about it. At least things'll get good when they bring in all the guys from Tachi later in the year so people get to see Mamoru and Jussier
Joe is gonna mop up Mighty Mouse. Got Em!!

Thiagos an idiot.
That was my exact thought after he lost! Got Em!!

DVR'd this and watching now. how the fuck did mighty mouse win this? he got beat easily in rounds 1 and 2. fuck mighty mouse.
What fight was u watching? U couldnt be more wrong! Got Em!!
 
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lol Czar, wtf you mean there was no even striking in round 1? Fightmetric had 28 of 55 for Johnson in total strikes and 26 of 57 for McCall, so my initial reaction of EVEN STRIKING before fightmetric numbers were even released was dead on.

Plus in round 1 McCall got 2 takedowns with 2 guard passes into mount, which would be "effective grappling" under the unified rules of mixed martial arts. Tell me how he lost round 1 again?
 
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What fight was u watching? U couldnt be more wrong! Got Em!!
really? what fight were you watching then? the striking was very even with Creepy being the aggressor and the more effective grappler. McCall had johnson against the cage and was pushing the pace making him not only the aggressor but he had control of the octagon. even if johnson outstruck him (which it would've been by a little) he still should've won that round with being better at the other 4. Round 2 was easily Johnsons. and round 3 was easily McCalls. so please tell me what were you watching?
 
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also that mess up from the judging is HUGE. i mean this was for a title shot so it isnt like it can be a wash and everyone goes on their way. they should let Creepy get whoever wins the title, i dont see that being a bad option considering there's no1 in the flyweight division yet and i'm sure McCall gained some fans tonight with how he fights.
 

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LOOKED LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A DRAW.

MM ROCKED MCCALL IN THE FIRST ROUND AND GOT THE BETTER OF THE EXCHANGES.

ROUND 2 WAS PRETTY EVEN GIVE OR TAKE WHAT YOUR JUDGING CRITERIA IS.

ROUND 3 BELONGED TO MCCALL FOR SURE.

FUCKING SCORING SYSTEM IS HORRID...IT'S KILLING THE SPORT LITERALLY...

YOU CANNOT LEAVE IT TO THE JUDGES AND THINK YOU GOT THE FIGHT WRAPPED UP...SHIT IS RIDICULOUS
 
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^^easier said then done, especially when you're 125 pounds and fighting a man equal the strength. McCall tried putting it away and so did did Johnson when he rocked McCall. i dunno man there just seems to be a HUGE fuck up from judging on every single card now. it's getting ridiculous especially when there's something that important on the line.
 

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WHATS FUCKED UP...IS AT THE END OF THE FIGHT I SEEN MCCALL DOING FLIPS AND ACTING LIKE THE FIGHT WAS A DONE DEAL...
SOMETHING TOLD ME HE WAS CELEBRATING TO SOON...THEN THE DECISION COMES OUT FOR MIGHTY MOUSE AND I COULDNT HELP BUT THINK HOW FUCKED UP THE JUDGES ALWAYS ARE...

THEY GOTTA FIGURE OUT A BETTER SYSTEM
 

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lol Czar, wtf you mean there was no even striking in round 1? Fightmetric had 28 of 55 for Johnson in total strikes and 26 of 57 for McCall, so my initial reaction of EVEN STRIKING before fightmetric numbers were even released was dead on.

Plus in round 1 McCall got 2 takedowns with 2 guard passes into mount, which would be "effective grappling" under the unified rules of mixed martial arts. Tell me how he lost round 1 again?
See thats the problem, I watch a fight with my own eyes and "judge" who I think won each round. I dont wait to see the metrics or whatever. That shit doesnt mean jack to me. I think thats why we get so many bad decisions in these type of sports as they look to the numbers and not their own eyes. McCall lost the first two rounds in my book by landing the better and more effective strikes simple as that. McCall only won round 3. I dont know what else to say. Got Em!!

really? what fight were you watching then? the striking was very even with Creepy being the aggressor and the more effective grappler. McCall had johnson against the cage and was pushing the pace making him not only the aggressor but he had control of the octagon. even if johnson outstruck him (which it would've been by a little) he still should've won that round with being better at the other 4. Round 2 was easily Johnsons. and round 3 was easily McCalls. so please tell me what were you watching?
Just explained above my thoughts and take. Got Em!!

LOOKED LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A DRAW.

MM ROCKED MCCALL IN THE FIRST ROUND AND GOT THE BETTER OF THE EXCHANGES.

ROUND 2 WAS PRETTY EVEN GIVE OR TAKE WHAT YOUR JUDGING CRITERIA IS.

ROUND 3 BELONGED TO MCCALL FOR SURE.

FUCKING SCORING SYSTEM IS HORRID...IT'S KILLING THE SPORT LITERALLY...

YOU CANNOT LEAVE IT TO THE JUDGES AND THINK YOU GOT THE FIGHT WRAPPED UP...SHIT IS RIDICULOUS
See I agree with u about round 1 but round two was even more clearly Johnson's round and thats where we may differ. I had it 2-1 for Johnson and unless u give McCall a 10-8 round thats the only way it was a draw and I only scored it 10-9 in the 3rd. Got Em!!
 
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See thats the problem, I watch a fight with my own eyes and "judge" who I think won each round. I dont wait to see the metrics or whatever. That shit doesnt mean jack to me. I think thats why we get so many bad decisions in these type of sports as they look to the numbers and not their own eyes. McCall lost the first two rounds in my book by landing the better and more effective strikes simple as that. McCall only won round 3. I dont know what else to say. Got Em!!



Just explained above my thoughts and take. Got Em!!



See I agree with u about round 1 but round two was even more clearly Johnson's round and thats where we may differ. I had it 2-1 for Johnson and unless u give McCall a 10-8 round thats the only way it was a draw and I only scored it 10-9 in the 3rd. Got Em!!
thats what i do aswell and it look like McCall was the better striker the 1st half and then MM got it the 2nd. so that to me was a wash or maybe even a slight edge on johnson since he rocked Creepy. but then i looked at the wrestling and easily it was McCall with the 2 takedowns and 2 passes. then i looked at octagon control and again it was McCall. he controlled the center more often and MM was fighting at McCalls pace. then aggression and that was easily McCall aswell. he got 2 takedowns and had johnson backpedeling most the time. see i agree with you in the fact that maybe Jonshons had the better strikes but there's more to MMA then that and McCall was better at the other 75% of what they score per round in round 1.
 

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thats what i do aswell and it look like McCall was the better striker the 1st half and then MM got it the 2nd. so that to me was a wash or maybe even a slight edge on johnson since he rocked Creepy. but then i looked at the wrestling and easily it was McCall with the 2 takedowns and 2 passes. then i looked at octagon control and again it was McCall. he controlled the center more often and MM was fighting at McCalls pace. then aggression and that was easily McCall aswell. he got 2 takedowns and had johnson backpedeling most the time. see i agree with you in the fact that maybe Jonshons had the better strikes but there's more to MMA then that and McCall was better at the other 75% of what they score per round in round 1.
Well they will get a rematch so well see what adjustments are made. Got Em!!