U.S. TROOPS accused raping a young woman and killing her and her family.

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XxtraMannish said:
^That does not make it right. Isn't america supposed to be "liberating" these people, not raping and pillaging?
It is not right. It is a consequence of war that has nothing to do with liberating Iraqi people except that "liberation" put the US there to begin with.
 
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I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YALL

WHEN AN IRAQI/AFGHAN/ARAB BOY WAKES UP TO THE SITE OF HIS SISTER CRYING AFTER BEING RAPED BY A FOREIGN SOLDIER, SEES BOTH HIS PARENTS LYING IN BLOOD PUDLES WITH BULLETS IN THEIR FOREHEADS, AND HIS NEIGHBORS HOME EXPLODED TO RUBBLE, WITHOUT A TV, WITHOUT A NEWSPAPER, WITHOUT ANYTHING BUT THE KNOWLDEGE THAT GOOD OL DUBYA AND HIS MIGHTY U.S. ARE RESPONSIBLE

WHO IS THE TERRORIST IN HIS EYES?
AND WHO WILL THAT BOY BECOME WHEN HE GROWS UP?

this is why im astonished that people are SURPRISED and confused about how people like osama bin laden exist. BECUZ HATE BREEDS HATE. IGNORANCE BREEDS IGNORANCE. when will we ever learn from our mistakes?
 

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WHO IS THE TERRORIST IN HIS EYES?
Those responsible for the deaths of his family.

AND WHO WILL THAT BOY BECOME WHEN HE GROWS UP?
To many variables to determine who he will be when he grows up. If left to his own vices he may become a serial rapist, who knows? However, to imply that he is going to become a so-called "terrorist" is a bit premature. Will he exhibit resentment for those responsible for the deaths of his loved ones? Probably, but forming an assessment based on the deaths alone isn't enough to determine what he will become.

this is why im astonished that people are SURPRISED and confused about how people like osama bin laden exist.
When did Osama experience such things as the child in your anaolgy/example?

BECUZ HATE BREEDS HATE. IGNORANCE BREEDS IGNORANCE.
In most cases yes. You have MANY instances where HATE bred LOVE. Look at the civil rights movement of the 60's as an example. Also, ignorance can actually lead to intelligence if the person is WILLING to explore. Again, refer to the civil rights movement of the 60's as an example.

when will we ever learn from our mistakes?
Who is the "we" that you speak of? Society as a whole? American society?
 
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humans in general.

Heresy i agree with you, and those were generalizations. but im not talking about one kid. im talking about thousands of kids. some may learn to love and learn to seek wisdom. but not everybody can resist the temptation of revenge. even in our society,revenge is probobly the leading cause of homicide. in a culture like their's where death is an everday occurence, seeking revenge at least by the majority is almost inevitable.
 

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humans in general.
When God proves himself 100% to ALL of mankind or until the majority of mankind is wiped from the face of the Earth.

Heresy i agree with you, and those were generalizations. but im not talking about one kid. im talking about thousands of kids.
My previous statements apply here, and I'm reluctant to believe that thousands of people are going to act out in a vengeful or violent manner.

some may learn to love and learn to seek wisdom. but not everybody can resist the temptation of revenge.
At what point is it considered revenge? If someone is coming to your homeland and destroying your basic infrastructure, killing your loved ones and spreading death how is it revenge if you arm yourself and take up the fight?

revenge is probobly the leading cause of homicide.
In which society? Certaintly not in american society.

in a culture like their's where death is an everday occurence, seeking revenge at least by the majority is almost inevitable.
They TALK about revenge. Few of them actually have the training or finances to implement a plan and see it through completion.
 
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what the fuck do you know?? im FROM the middle east. i know what their nature is. and youre right its not revenge, its protecting their country. if u dont believe thousands would fight for their country and would in some shape or form seek revenge on one who destroyed their family's and home, then you my friend don't know much about people consumed with pride.
 

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what the fuck do you know??
Probably more than you, probably less. Why does it matter?

im FROM the middle east
So?!?!?! And, am I supposed to be impressed and awe struck because someone from the middle east is here? How do you know I'm not from the middle east? Also, what does being from the middle east have to do with anything? I know someone who is from the middle east and this person has NO CLUE as to what is currently going on in the middle east. With that being said, being from the mid east is not a pre-requisite to understanding the dilema in the region.

i know what their nature is.and youre right its not revenge, its protecting their country.
If you know what their nature is why did you attribute it to revenge in the first place?

if u dont believe thousands would fight for their country and would in some shape or form seek revenge on one who destroyed their family's and home
Again, they may TALK about fighting for the country, but how many of them actually DO IT?

then you my friend don't know much about people consumed with pride.
SEE ABOVE.
 
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MY DEAR FRIEND HERESY
i am simply referring to the mindstate many of the people are put in as a result of military actions taken on their homes. wether or not every one of them or just one of them follows thru on their actions, we, as a race of humans, must understand that by bombing people we are potentially creating people who will one day want to bomb us back.
 
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NavThaShah said:
MY DEAR FRIEND HERESY
i am simply referring to the mindstate many of the people are put in as a result of military actions taken on their homes. wether or not every one of them or just one of them follows thru on their actions, we, as a race of humans, must understand that by bombing people we are potentially creating people who will one day want to bomb us back.
I agree with this statement...

IMO...humans first feel revenge when tragdy strikes...i know i have...i know all my friends have...and no i CANT speak for every human being on earth...but rage and revenge go hand in hand...

When you get beat up...most people have revenge on their mind...i see it every damn weekend at almost all social events....
 

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NavThaShah said:
MY DEAR FRIEND HERESY
i am simply referring to the mindstate many of the people are put in as a result of military actions taken on their homes. wether or not every one of them or just one of them follows thru on their actions, we, as a race of humans, must understand that by bombing people we are potentially creating people who will one day want to bomb us back.
You have no argument here.