U.S.A v.s IRAN: A nice article

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we only sold weapons to the taliban because COMMUNISM was our main prioirity at the time.....yall make it sound like running this govermetn is so fuckin eazy...yeah we fucked up by giving the taliban weapons but do you seriously think that we knew they were going to attack us.....they had to fight russia at the time and that was are greatest concern.....this shit happens throughout histroy and yall blaming bush is just liberal-california shit....we all need to stand up against these clowns yeah america fucked up in the past but it happens.....and we sold iraq weapons because iran was (and still is) one of are biggest threats.....every fuckin country hates us...and now we have our own people hating us........what ever happens one side wont be happy...everyone fuckin complains PERIOD
 
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MooreBlock530 said:
we only sold weapons to the taliban because COMMUNISM was our main prioirity at the time.....yall make it sound like running this govermetn is so fuckin eazy...yeah we fucked up by giving the taliban weapons but do you seriously think that we knew they were going to attack us.....they had to fight russia at the time and that was are greatest concern.....this shit happens throughout histroy and yall blaming bush is just liberal-california shit....we all need to stand up against these clowns yeah america fucked up in the past but it happens.....and we sold iraq weapons because iran was (and still is) one of are biggest threats.....every fuckin country hates us...and now we have our own people hating us........what ever happens one side wont be happy...everyone fuckin complains PERIOD
No one said it was easy running the government, but I don't like to get lied to do you? Remember what happened to Rome?
 
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MooreBlock530 said:
we only sold weapons to the taliban because COMMUNISM was our main prioirity at the time.....yall make it sound like running this govermetn is so fuckin eazy...yeah we fucked up by giving the taliban weapons but do you seriously think that we knew they were going to attack us.....they had to fight russia at the time and that was are greatest concern.....this shit happens throughout histroy and yall blaming bush is just liberal-california shit....we all need to stand up against these clowns yeah america fucked up in the past but it happens.....and we sold iraq weapons because iran was (and still is) one of are biggest threats.....every fuckin country hates us...and now we have our own people hating us........what ever happens one side wont be happy...everyone fuckin complains PERIOD
HAHA, we've never been so hated in the past as much as we are hated today. The Government didn't give the Taliban or Iraq, weapons and money because they didn't know they were going to be attacked. They gave them money, so when a certain time frame passed, they could say LOOK THEY'RE TERRORISTS, let's go bomb their towel head asses. They knew what was going to happen, all the pieces needed to fall in place, so that they could make a reason for war. Blind Americans, bleh...
 
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^^ ok there buddy.....go ahead and think what you want....."blind americans" your fuckin a joke....presidents are here to protect are intrest in the present...and 90 percent of the time it fucks us up the future.....and isolationism will never work after pearl harbor....and to GTS all countrys (cept are few allies) have allways hated us....look at all the other countrys that supported ENGLAND in the revolutinary war....our country is the reason why all the big elite countrys of the 1700s and before dont have all there "territory"....if the american revolution never happend....places liek france.....england....spain.....would rule the world...so everyoens allways hated us for diffrent reasons.....like i said blaming it on certain people wont help....standing up and being americans will.....we need to take out countrys that are a threat to us or make em so there not a threat to us diplomaitcly....because if we dont do anything about it......and something does happen (like iran attacking isreal or any of are other allies or even us) people will be crying WHY DIDNT WE TAKE CARE OF THIS BEFORE THEY BECAME A THREAT!!!!.......if you dont belive me check on NAZI GERMANY....everyone said leave alone dont do nothing about it.....but after the holocaust was made public....people started blaming our president/govermetn for dnot doing something in time to prevent it......america is full of cry babys now a days......we should all stand up and unite......or atleast thast my opinion..if you think iraq is "bush's daddys war" then maybe you shouldnt.....but like i siad its better to get somethign done now then be caught blindsided
 
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MooreBlock530 said:
presidents are here to protect are intrest in the present...and 90 percent of the time it fucks us up the future
approximately 4000 american lives and 379 billion dollars spent on the Iraq war, which was started based on an INCORRECT assumption. now, based on that same unsupported bullshit they are talking of combat with syria and IRAN, an "enemy" that is 10 times more difficult than iraq. many of the soldiers are in their third or fourth term, and they are being asked to now go to iran. US soldiers will die, and they are being used like toys, risking their lives for the sole purpose of the US governments monetary gain. the only way to succesfuly challenge iran is to instill a draft in the US...talk about fucking up the future, lets hope we have a future to fuck up.
if the american revolution never happend....places liek france.....england....spain.....would rule the world...so everyoens allways hated us for diffrent reasons.....like i said blaming it on certain people wont help....standing up and being americans will.....we need to take out countrys that are a threat to us or make em so there not a threat to us diplomaitcly....
u wanna talk about the revolutionary war?? the bases for the revolutionary war was greatly influenced by the philosopher John Locke, who stated that governments and their people should have a social contract (ours being the bill of rights). he stated if the government violates that contract, that the people have the right to revolt. that was the colonists support for revolting against england. now by that same logic, "standing up and being american" would not be supporting our fucked up government, the government that violates our social contract, strips us of our rights, sends our young to die for their corruption, lies to us and instills our weak with fear, fear to support their unjustified acts of blind terrorism. NO SIR, "standing up and being american" would be to follow in the footsteps of the founding fathers of this country! being a patriotic american would mean standing up AGAINST this government, to REVOLT and take this country back and giving it back to the people!!
 
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No More Block 530 said:
you dont belive me check on NAZI GERMANY....everyone said leave alone dont do nothing about it.....but after the holocaust was made public....people started blaming our president/govermetn for dnot doing something in time to prevent it
Slow Down...How are you going to Justify Iraq and Afghanistan? I don't care if you believe in the conspiracy theories going around about the 9/11 attacks, and government homeland attacks, but you should really look into it, and come back with your blind PATRIOTIC statement. If you want to fight, join the military, better yet, Tell the Government to send their own kids!!! No our brothers and sisters! I hope and pray to GOD, that those innocent people will be avenged and best believe, you're patriotic speech will mean nothing, WHEN AMERICA WILL FINALLY GET HIT HARD! I love my people, I see beyond race and color, but I hate this government. Even immigrants are starting to see, how Messed up this country is. Go ahead and be gun ho about the war, THEN JOIN YOURSELF Jimmy.

When you eat so much of this propaganda, you just accept it with no questions asked, that's the sad part of the American People. I hope you understand what the Government is trying to accomplish here, and it has nothing to do with your benefit. Like NAV said, if you're proud to be an American, Stand up and speak against the Government. The Government is not America, WE ARE!!!!
 
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approximately 4000 american lives and 379 billion dollars spent on the Iraq war, which was started based on an INCORRECT assumption. now, based on that same unsupported bullshit they are talking of combat with syria and IRAN, an "enemy" that is 10 times more difficult than iraq. many of the soldiers are in their third or fourth term, and they are being asked to now go to iran. US soldiers will die, and they are being used like toys, risking their lives for the sole purpose of the US governments monetary gain. the only way to succesfuly challenge iran is to instill a draft in the US...talk about fucking up the future, lets hope we have a future to fuck up.

u wanna talk about the revolutionary war?? the bases for the revolutionary war was greatly influenced by the philosopher John Locke, who stated that governments and their people should have a social contract (ours being the bill of rights). he stated if the government violates that contract, that the people have the right to revolt. that was the colonists support for revolting against england. now by that same logic, "standing up and being american" would not be supporting our fucked up government, the government that violates our social contract, strips us of our rights, sends our young to die for their corruption, lies to us and instills our weak with fear, fear to support their unjustified acts of blind terrorism. NO SIR, "standing up and being american" would be to follow in the footsteps of the founding fathers of this country! being a patriotic american would mean standing up AGAINST this government, to REVOLT and take this country back and giving it back to the people!!
Well the media has setup Democrats to take over in 2008 and what do you think they'll do(draft?).
 
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im not here to change opinions.....like i said yall believe what you wanna believe....but some of yall are over paronoid.....and you cant say im blind just because i dont believe what you want me to believe....i dont eat no propganda.....i dont watch tv......i read countless conspiracy theroys and there all the same...there theroys from other peoples minds and if yall wanna believe that shit you can.....its what ever im not here to debate all the time...to many people out number what i believe and it just gets redicuolos when people start calling other people "stupid"....im over it...a couple post in
 
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im sorry, what exactly are you asking?
my bad its friday, i agreed with a lot of what you said. I meant to say that the media is kinda crowning the democrats (hillary) already, and if they do get selected (not elected in) will they start a military draft?
 
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well i think if the democrats win their focus will be on gettin us the fuck out of there...i mean most of the democrats disagree wit bushs plan to send 20-40,000 more troops to iraq, so i doubt that if they get elected theyll want to send even more troops to fight syria and iran. i think the democrats will avoid a war with iran as much as they can. thats if bush doesnt start that war before hes out of office.

regardless of wat happens until 08, the democratic winner will most likely be directing his/her focus to cleaning up as much of the mess that bush left as possible, so to answer your question i dont think theyl instill a draft cuz that would just add to it. the same people who would protest a draft are the same people who would vote dem.
 
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true, but wheras bush seems much more gung ho on the utilization of military force, a democrat like Hillary will most likely save that option and first attempt to solve the conflict using more diplomatic and economic strategies.