U.S.A v.s IRAN: A nice article

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Could an accidental war happen? Behind the scenes, nations teeter on the edge of confrontation
The Associated Press
Updated: 8:13 p.m. PT Jan 31, 2007

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Citing Iranian involvement with Iraqi militias and Tehran’s nuclear ambitions, the Bush administration has shifted to offense in its confrontation with Iran — building up the U.S. military in the Persian Gulf and promising more aggressive moves against Iranian operatives in Iraq and Lebanon.
The behind-the-scenes struggle between the two nations could explode into open warfare over a single misstep, analysts and U.S. military officials warn.
Iraq has become a proxy battleground between Washington and Tehran, which is challenging — at least rhetorically — America’s dominance of the gulf. That has worried even Iraq’s U.S.-backed Shiite prime minister, who — in a reflection of Iraq’s complexity — also has close ties to Iran.
Iran and the United States are already sparring on the ground.
On Jan. 20, militants kidnapped and killed four American soldiers in a raid in Karbala, and a fifth was killed in the firefight. A U.S. defense official said one possibility under study is that Iranian agents either executed or masterminded the attack, a suspicion based on the sophisticated and unusual methods used in the attack, including weapons and uniforms that may have been American.
He spoke on condition of anonymity because the probe is ongoing.
There has been speculation that the Karbala assault may have been in retaliation for the arrest of five Iranians by U.S. troops in northern Iraq.
Those five Iranians, who were arrested in the northern city of Irbil, included two members of an Iranian Revolutionary Guard force that provides weapons, training and other support to Shiite militants in the Middle East, U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad said last week. Iraqi and Iranian officials maintain the five were diplomats.
More tension since Karbala raid
Since the Karbala raid, U.S. saber-rattling has intensified. President Bush said this week that U.S. forces in Iraq would take action against Iranian operatives in the country, while insisting he had no intention of attacking Iran.
“If Iran escalates its military action in Iraq to the detriment of our troops and/or innocent Iraqi people, we will respond firmly,” Bush told National Public Radio.
Although little evidence has been made public, U.S. officials have long insisted that Iran was supplying weapons and training to Shiite militias in Iraq, including some that have killed American troops.
The No. 2 U.S. general in Iraq told USA Today in an interview published Tuesday that Iran was supplying Iraqi Shiite militias with a variety of powerful weapons, including Katyusha rockets and armor-piercing rocket-propelled grenades.
“We have weapons that we know through serial numbers ... trace back to Iran,” Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno said.

The Air Force is considering more forceful patrols on the Iraqi side of the border with Iran to counter the smuggling of weapons and bomb supplies, the Los Angeles Times reported, citing senior Pentagon officials.
The U.S. is also building up its military presence in the gulf in what it says is a show of strength directed at Iran. A second aircraft carrier is heading for the region, and Patriot missile batteries are being deployed.
Since Bush announced his new Iraq strategy in early January, Iranian officials have raised the alarm repeatedly that the U.S. intends to attack. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Iran is “ready for anything” in its confrontation with the United States.
Oil used as a bargaining tool
A newspaper close to Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei last week threatened retaliation for any U.S. military action — including stopping oil traffic through the gulf’s strategic Hormuz Straits and attacks on U.S. interests. The top editor of the Kayhan daily warned that Iran will turn the Middle East into “hell” for the United States and Israel if America attacks.

Iran expert Ray Takeyh said the risks are all the greater because Tehran has an “unhealthy” disregard for American power, which “enhances the prospect of a miscalculation.”
Prof. Gary Sick, a leading authority on Iran, believes the U.S. is seeking to divert world attention from the crisis in Iraq and organize a coalition of Israel and conservative Sunni Arab states to confront Iran.
“I see this as a very dangerous long-term policy because it promotes the idea that Sunnis and Shiites should be distrustful of each other, and I think that could come back and bite us later on,” he said.
Nuclear argument
Iran and the U.S. also are in dispute over Tehran’s nuclear program. The United States accuses Iran of secretly developing atomic weapons — an allegation Tehran denies. Iran’s defiant refusal to suspend uranium enrichment prompted the U.N. Security Council to impose limited economic sanctions.
The U.S. has also beefed up support for Lebanon’s government in its power struggle with Hezbollah, the Shiite militia that Washington accuses of acting in Iran’s interests.
But Lee Feinstein of the Council on Foreign Relations said the U.S. was finding it hard “to calibrate its message” to distinguish “between a stern message and a warning of attack.”
The war of words has raised fears among both Democrats and Republicans in Congress that the United States and Iran are drifting toward armed conflict at a time when America is struggling against determined foes in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It has also unnerved the Iraqi government, many of whose members have close ties to Iran.
“We have told the Iranians and the Americans, ‘We know that you have a problem with each other but we’re asking you, please, solve your problems outside of Iraq,”’ Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, a Shiite, told CNN on Wednesday. “We do not want the American forces to take Iraq as a base to attack Iran ... we will not accept Iran using Iraq to attack American forces. But does this exist? It exists and I assure you it exists.”
'Neither side wants a fight'
As the rhetoric grows more strident, a U.S. military official in the gulf likened the U.S.-Iran standoff to the buildup in hostility in Europe before World War I, when the assassination of the heir to the Austrian throne triggered a tragic war that engulfed a continent.
“A mistake could be made and you could end up in something that neither side ever really wanted, and suddenly it’s August 1914 all over again,” the U.S. officer said on condition of anonymity, because of the sensitivity of the issue. “I really believe neither side wants a fight.”
Iranian coast guard vessels recently veered into territorial waters on the Arab side of the gulf, an event that could have been viewed as either a mistake or a provocation, the officer said. Both sides are on tenterhooks. “A boat crosses a line ... but what does it mean? You’ve got to be very careful about overreacting,” the officer said.
Even if Iran pulled back from Iraq’s conflict, it might not end the country’s violence, said Kenneth M. Pollack, research director at the Saban Center for Middle East Policy.
“The truth is that Iraq is a mess. It is in a state of low-level civil war. And all of these groups are largely self-motivated,” he said on the Council on Foreign Relations Web site. “But its much easier to blame it on the Iranians.”
In Tehran, political analyst Hermidas Bavand said U.S. force increases were leading many Iranians to believe Washington is looking to pick a fight.
“It’s an extremely dangerous situation,” Bavand said. “I don’t think Tehran wants war under any circumstances. But there might be an accidental event that could escalate into a large confrontation.”
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accidental war?

how in the fuck the war be accidental when the U.S. is the one that wants to stop Iran from making nuclear power?

trust me on this..the U.S. is not ready for a war with Iran in any kind of way...
 

Y-S

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i predict that when there's a war between u.s. and iran, then nuclear party gets on, and then india and china or other nuclear countries joins the nuclear party, I don't know

But I do feel that there will be a nuclear action involved if war will strike between u.s. and iran
 

Hemp

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the US is and will keep attempting to trigger Iran into attacking us.
The gov even tried a plan they had ready for iraq which was to fly a US plane over it and watch them shoot it down and go after them for it.

iran shot the plane down, but this wasnt a good enough reason to attack because the chips are stacked now after the iraq war.
i guess either the US or israel will destroy irans nuclear facility, keep on killin iranians, while feeding the people bs propaganda about iran being a crazy islamic state full of terrorists.
anyway its 5 am and im tried.
peace
 

Hemp

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oh yeah afterwards, the instigation will continue from afghanistan to iraq to lebanon n iran, then syria.

oh the future holds wonderful adventures for humanity as they search for food and shelter, killin their brothers for material gains.
All i will say is thank god ive been warned and have stepped my game up.
Not that i got food n shit ready but i have accepted the situation and will lead as an example for other humans.

for all of you spiritual or religious people, make sure you use this time for what its worth.
Get by with as little as possible.
and remmeber that happiness/the kingdom of heaven is WITHIN.
YOU are the one that chooses to be happy or sad depending on what you look for.
Make sure you unconditionally love all and see the beauty in everything, and you shall see that life might even seem better than it is currently.

the next few years are very special, especially if you play the game right.
take care
 
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An additional Aircraft carrier and it's support ships are heading to the gulf now. They damn sure aint going to fight the 'insurgents" in Iraq. I bet you that. I'm gettin the popcorn ready. I like the first few days...when the shit jumps off...damn near 24 hour coverage...retired generals coming out of the woodworks and news shows. Pretty entertaining.
 
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MooreBlock530 said:
iran is allready at war with the US......they are giving weapons to those fucks in iraq....we as americans need to stand up agaisnt these people....FUCK IRAN
Iran dont need to sell weapons to Iraq. Cuz Iraq still has the weapons the US sold to them when they were at war with Iran. :dead:
 
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Iran dont need to sell weapons to Iraq. Cuz Iraq still has the weapons the US sold to them when they were at war with Iran. :dead:
KILLED EM! These uneducated foos think that the US is always Good. For you dummies, The US gave money to the Taliban and Osama. The US sold weapons to Iraq. The US helped trained most of these "terrorists" that attacked 9/11. I'm proud to be an American, as an Individual, but not my government. Blind People...the Epitome of Sadness and the dumb.
 
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The Red Sin said:
KILLED EM! These uneducated foos think that the US is always Good. For you dummies, The US gave money to the Taliban and Osama. The US sold weapons to Iraq. The US helped trained most of these "terrorists" that attacked 9/11. I'm proud to be an American, as an Individual, but not my government. Blind People...the Epitome of Sadness and the dumb.

I don't think there's one person in the GOM forum who did not know this already. lol GOM 100
 
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So what is that indicative of? THE US IS FIGHTING THE SAME PEOPLE THEY'RE GIVING WEAPONS TO, and saying that those weapons are used for Terror. I get a headache when I read, THE US SHOULD SLAY THESE TERRORISTS or BUSH WAS RIGHT.

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Doberman said:
I don't think there's one person in the GOM forum who did not know this already. lol GOM 100
Well I usually don't see him around here much Bro.
 
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The Red Sin said:
So what is that indicative of? THE US IS FIGHTING THE SAME PEOPLE THEY'RE GIVING WEAPONS TO, and saying that those weapons are used for Terror. I get a headache when I read, THE US SHOULD SLAY THESE TERRORISTS or BUSH WAS RIGHT.

Edit:Well I usually don't see him around here much Bro.
War is profit Bush is doing what he's told, the banks are funding boths sides.