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lmao killed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than that - sounds more like an un-intelligent report
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This is actually a very good representation on where people stand when discussing Left vs Right, Authoritarian vs Libertarian.
And my entire point in posting them is to show what you just said - the Democrats and the "left" of this country is actually to the right on the political spectrum, or Center-right at best. There is a big misconception in this country on what "left" really is when in reality the American left is to the right.
That is what the graphs show, look again. Hillary is to the left of Obama. Not by much but to the left nonetheless.
The context of my post is in a discussion with Foul Mouth who is claiming there is huge leftist biased in the media and that this country is influenced heavily by the left, which I disagree with being that there is NO left in this country with any sort of power nor is the mainstream media far left. None of them are (lesser known media outlets sure of course, but not mainstream (he also incorrectly said I think info wars is mainstream media which of course it isn't)).
Foul Mouth I've learned groups everything together. He thinks left = liberal. He has a very black and white incredibly simple understanding. You and I both know left does not mean liberal. Liberals are just as guilty as the far right for much of our problems. Any type of real left in America is nearly nonexistent and the pockets of them scattered across this country do not have a loud voice. At best there is Bernie Sanders, but he is one man and isn't part of some leftist working class party and he is the most relevant "leftist" in politics, one of the only ones that people actually know of. Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader, couple others on a much smaller level.
That's true but they aren't too far apart either. It's also easier painting a clearer picture with a president since there is so much data to go off. It's probably more difficult to understand Hillarys true position on a lot matters since she's flip flopped so many times and is a charlatan, a corporate whore who will change stances based on what corporate interests are that day.
Being for the state isn't necessarily a bad thing but this is probably a matter of semantics as well as you probably have something different than me in mind.
And my entire point in posting them is to show what you just said - the Democrats and the "left" of this country is actually to the right on the political spectrum, or Center-right at best. There is a big misconception in this country on what "left" really is when in reality the American left is to the right.
That is what the graphs show, look again. Hillary is to the left of Obama. Not by much but to the left nonetheless.
The context of my post is in a discussion with Foul Mouth who is claiming there is huge leftist biased in the media and that this country is influenced heavily by the left, which I disagree with being that there is NO left in this country with any sort of power nor is the mainstream media far left. None of them are (lesser known media outlets sure of course, but not mainstream (he also incorrectly said I think info wars is mainstream media which of course it isn't)).
Foul Mouth I've learned groups everything together. He thinks left = liberal. He has a very black and white incredibly simple understanding. You and I both know left does not mean liberal. Liberals are just as guilty as the far right for much of our problems. Any type of real left in America is nearly nonexistent and the pockets of them scattered across this country do not have a loud voice. At best there is Bernie Sanders, but he is one man and isn't part of some leftist working class party and he is the most relevant "leftist" in politics, one of the only ones that people actually know of. Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader, couple others on a much smaller level.
That's true but they aren't too far apart either. It's also easier painting a clearer picture with a president since there is so much data to go off. It's probably more difficult to understand Hillarys true position on a lot matters since she's flip flopped so many times and is a charlatan, a corporate whore who will change stances based on what corporate interests are that day.
Being for the state isn't necessarily a bad thing but this is probably a matter of semantics as well as you probably have something different than me in mind.
What this is news to you? You think each news outlets is independent? There are 4 or 5 companies that own almost all of the media, the ones that matter anyway.
I'm not going to list every single media outlet these companies own since that would takes hours but it's all available online, Wikipedia, whatever it's all open information no secret.
Comcast. Comcast owns a shit ton of media and TV networks obviously, a massive amount. $74.51 billion (NBCUniversal: $28.46 billion).
The Walt Disney Company. Obviously anything with Disney in name, all their TV stations like ESPN, ABC, approximately 30 radio stations, music, video game, and book publishing companies, production companies Touchstone, Marvel Entertainment, Lucasfilm, Walt Disney Pictures, Pixar Animation Studios, etc etc, and they control the Hearst Corporation,which is of course an American mass media and business information conglomerate (owns TV stations, newspapers, magazines, etc.)
National Amusements, Inc. (owns Viacom and CBS Corporation). Sumner Redstone, holds 80% of the company, and Shari Redstone, owns the 20℅. , cable networks CBS Sports Network, Showtime, Pop; 30 television stations; CBS Radio, Inc., which has 130 stations; CBS Television Studios; book publisher Simon & Schuster.
owner of Paramount Pictures
Time Warner. CNN, HBO, Cinemax, Cartoon Network/Adult Swim, HLN, NBA TV, TBS, TNT, etc etc etc.
21st Century Fox. Fox Business Network, Fox Sports 1, Fox Sports 2, National Geographic, Nat Geo Wild, FX, FXX, FX Movie Channel.
When it comes to Print, almost all is owned by a few Billionaires if not owned by the companies i mentioned above, including The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, in addition to magazines, local papers and online publications. They are owned by Rupert Murdoch, Michael Bloomberg, Comcast CEO Brian Roberts, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos.
Carlos Slim owns 20℅ of the New York Times.
It isn't liberal bias. The claim is entirely unfounded, probably because it's something you hear conservatives repeat over and over for decades. The truth is it isn't there. Independent Watch Dog agencies have done huge investigative reports over the years numerous times and have never found the claim to be true. What they find instead is Corporate bias and power bias. Corporate bias is a huge problem with our media, it's absolutely insane what our media gets away with. Whatever interests tje corporate owners of the media has, that is the bias.
What you confuse with liberal bias is probably the bullshit racism topics thats always on tje news. So you flip to a "liberal news channel" and they are talking about how a black man died by the hands of a white man and it's an outrage and you probably think, "damn liberals!". This is actually something else, this is keeping the counter divided. There is more racism talk now than there probably was in the 60s! This country is far easier to rule when the people are divided on race, divided on immigration, divided on shit that really doesn't even matter when we are all in the same boat as workers of this country. But keep us divided and we will never progress, which is by design. It's in their interest to keep talking about the same old shit every night, get people pissed off so they rant on Facebook and argue with relatives and coworkers about race, abortion, guns or whatever the hot topic is that month.
See, this is what I'm talking about. You're so closed minded that everything is liberal vs conservative, or Democrat vs Republican, everything is either or. Nicely divided.
Fuck man, this is why it's so hard talking you. I simply quoted the article because you asked WHY people would have a problem with it and since the article you were talking about provided the very answers to your questions I provided them for you.
Of course you're not, what a shocker! Also not surprising you have no clue who he is.
I'm not going to list every single media outlet these companies own since that would takes hours but it's all available online, Wikipedia, whatever it's all open information no secret.
Comcast. Comcast owns a shit ton of media and TV networks obviously, a massive amount. $74.51 billion (NBCUniversal: $28.46 billion).
The Walt Disney Company. Obviously anything with Disney in name, all their TV stations like ESPN, ABC, approximately 30 radio stations, music, video game, and book publishing companies, production companies Touchstone, Marvel Entertainment, Lucasfilm, Walt Disney Pictures, Pixar Animation Studios, etc etc, and they control the Hearst Corporation,which is of course an American mass media and business information conglomerate (owns TV stations, newspapers, magazines, etc.)
National Amusements, Inc. (owns Viacom and CBS Corporation). Sumner Redstone, holds 80% of the company, and Shari Redstone, owns the 20℅. , cable networks CBS Sports Network, Showtime, Pop; 30 television stations; CBS Radio, Inc., which has 130 stations; CBS Television Studios; book publisher Simon & Schuster.
owner of Paramount Pictures
Time Warner. CNN, HBO, Cinemax, Cartoon Network/Adult Swim, HLN, NBA TV, TBS, TNT, etc etc etc.
21st Century Fox. Fox Business Network, Fox Sports 1, Fox Sports 2, National Geographic, Nat Geo Wild, FX, FXX, FX Movie Channel.
When it comes to Print, almost all is owned by a few Billionaires if not owned by the companies i mentioned above, including The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, in addition to magazines, local papers and online publications. They are owned by Rupert Murdoch, Michael Bloomberg, Comcast CEO Brian Roberts, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos.
Carlos Slim owns 20℅ of the New York Times.
It isn't liberal bias. The claim is entirely unfounded, probably because it's something you hear conservatives repeat over and over for decades. The truth is it isn't there. Independent Watch Dog agencies have done huge investigative reports over the years numerous times and have never found the claim to be true. What they find instead is Corporate bias and power bias. Corporate bias is a huge problem with our media, it's absolutely insane what our media gets away with. Whatever interests tje corporate owners of the media has, that is the bias.
What you confuse with liberal bias is probably the bullshit racism topics thats always on tje news. So you flip to a "liberal news channel" and they are talking about how a black man died by the hands of a white man and it's an outrage and you probably think, "damn liberals!". This is actually something else, this is keeping the counter divided. There is more racism talk now than there probably was in the 60s! This country is far easier to rule when the people are divided on race, divided on immigration, divided on shit that really doesn't even matter when we are all in the same boat as workers of this country. But keep us divided and we will never progress, which is by design. It's in their interest to keep talking about the same old shit every night, get people pissed off so they rant on Facebook and argue with relatives and coworkers about race, abortion, guns or whatever the hot topic is that month.
See, this is what I'm talking about. You're so closed minded that everything is liberal vs conservative, or Democrat vs Republican, everything is either or. Nicely divided.
Fuck man, this is why it's so hard talking you. I simply quoted the article because you asked WHY people would have a problem with it and since the article you were talking about provided the very answers to your questions I provided them for you.
Of course you're not, what a shocker! Also not surprising you have no clue who he is.
I don't know if I understood it correctly, but why would any middle eastern refugee go to the US for welfare etc.?! In Germany people get apartments, money, TVs, washing machines, clothes, furniture, etc. all paid for by the government. That's why Germany already took in over one million refugees in a short time. Y'all are pretty pathetic...and in China there is no living off the government. You don't work, you don't eat. Pure capitalism...
you're from Washington? so people up there use that definition when speaking about modern national politics? not just in your club. but that's how they talk up there everyday on the street? i've seen news footage from up there and i've only seen them use Left vs Right like the rest of mainstream america. do you still write with ink and a feather? i dont give a fuck what you read or what it tells you. im talkin bout America and American people., right now. when i see Young Turks and MSNBC slam "the right", they are speaking on the conservatives/republicans. when Fox News slams "the left", it is to liberals/democrats. who gives a fuck what the misconception is? are you banning slang from the dictionary? talk how the people talk. you cant seem to do that. the 2 parties drew a line in American soil. your words aren't changing that. the line has nothing to do with what your on.
come and talk like that in California and see how it works. people will look at you funny and/or ignore you. not just California.
where?
thats fine.
so why don't you just use your "industry lingo" within your communism club? it'll make more sense and have more value in there. the value of your dialect is nonexistent in mainstream America. again, use that type of terminology on everyday American streets and it doesn't work. your doin 22 much with it. you said it all with this quoted post: Any type of real left in America is nearly nonexistent. so why sit here and type and act extra with it that what your saying holds any value in todays America? 22 much.
What the fuck. Pure ignorance. This is why talking to you is pointless as fuck.
Haha are you serious right now?
ok man, I'll try to dumb it down for you in the future.
Right because my "dialect" and "industry lingo" of complex terms like "left" and "right" are so overly complicated that the average American in the street won't understand. No, sorry, that's just you. Thanks for wasting everyone's time though.
Haha are you serious right now?
ok man, I'll try to dumb it down for you in the future.
Right because my "dialect" and "industry lingo" of complex terms like "left" and "right" are so overly complicated that the average American in the street won't understand. No, sorry, that's just you. Thanks for wasting everyone's time though.
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again. nothing shows there is no bias. thanks for the info but this isn't what i asked for. FOX News isn't bias? c'mon, your ideology says they aren't biased?
(i use FOX News as a example since everybody understands Fox News is bias.
conservatives coulda been sayin the media has a liberal bias for decades, it wouldn't have affected me. im not a conservative and i question anything that is shitting on the left. just like i question anything that shits on the right. that's why the links i posted were not from a right wing source. i would have questioned those. as far as corporate/power bias, i believe that, and thats what it comes down to. for some reason it trickles down into mainstream (and non-mainstream) news, and Hollywood. as far as those Watch Dog agencies, that dont tell me shit. you can read numbers or you can pay attention to physical life. they dont always go hand and hand with what the spokesman reads. if numbers and spokesmen are what really counted then Hillary would be president.
no. i dont confuse it with racism. there is a line in the sand that says these are liberal ideas and these are conservative ideas. its very simple. it shouldnt be. but it is.
im speaking like an American. to Americans. you cant seem to grasp that idea. very very very few Americans totally stick to one parties ideology. they might keep a lot of that shit in amongst family, friends, community, but barely anyone holds 100% true to either set of ideologies, in their own head/heart. in reality, which you are not in, there are 2 parties. 2 separate sets of ideologies. nothing is black and white. but with the 2 parties, its black or white. to registered D's or R's its black or white. to dumb asses on social media and protesting, its black or white. to Hollywood, i'ts black or white. some dumb fucks started fuckin up Cal Berkeley last night. all those protesters cannot have the exact same ideology, but they were 1 under Democrats last night.
i technically asked McFuckerson what the issue was, since he posted it, assuming he had an issue. i read what you read, the first time around. your just emotional about it. you see it as "truth", speculation as truth. i see it as something different.
so read a book with an obvious political tilt, that you, with your political tilt, recommends, cus it fits in with your ideology? i read the summary and that's all i need to read to know where he stands and how he spews what he learns. then i onced over his wiki and it all made sense.
your in your own world. Left and Right, politically mean one side or the other. in USA 20017. there is no party for if you are pro bible and pro choice. what party is pro Jerry Brown and pro Trump? it doesnt give a fuck that you dont agree with it, or that you have a different definition. where are majority of Bernie supporters in mainstream America? on the left with Democrats. Bernie aint like Obama or Hillary, his supporters are still on the left with Democrats. didn't the DNC fuck over Bernie? they threw a wrench in his gears, to stop him from what? yes, leading and representing the left, the Democratic party. your tryng to get way too deep.
you can speak down to me and make me seem like the dumbest dude in America. all i see is you failing to make a point that has no value in everyday, people on the street America. what your doing is overly complicating "Left and Right" to a county that has already said "this is Left or Right". it didn't ask you for permission or for consultation.
I wonder who the fascists are, a gay jew speaking out about radical islam, or the antifa ferals beating people to death for having an opinion that differs from them?
You and people like you, will forever be puppets of george soros.
lol that's ford road, I have eaten some dope arab food there and beruit by night make good shistawooks
You and people like you, will forever be puppets of george soros.
lol that's ford road, I have eaten some dope arab food there and beruit by night make good shistawooks
yesterday in berkeley is an example of the left becoming the right
prohibiting the mila dude from speaking
free speech use to be big for the left now it's hate speech
i hate using the term left and right though lol
it's meant to divide us
prohibiting the mila dude from speaking
free speech use to be big for the left now it's hate speech
i hate using the term left and right though lol
it's meant to divide us
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Left/Right according to mainstream America? or Left/Right according to 2-0's scroll?
and yeah. i saw a "lefty" on the news last night saying he's for "freedom of speech" but not "hate speech". then i saw a mark bitch pepper spraying a girl in a red "make bitcoin great again" hat directly in her face. it was very ironic how they acted at Berkeley.
and yeah. i saw a "lefty" on the news last night saying he's for "freedom of speech" but not "hate speech". then i saw a mark bitch pepper spraying a girl in a red "make bitcoin great again" hat directly in her face. it was very ironic how they acted at Berkeley.
they are broke ass professional protesters, while some are rich and just feel ashamed. they travel, but yet always seem to be on the side of the left, what ever issue. why weren't they at the tea party rallies fighting for that cause? cus they didn't get orders. fuck the left and right, all day, but that's not what America says. that's obvious. dismiss those protesters as pro's, which they are, but they still are a weapon for an agenda.
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Yes, that is him. I have no idea how you can be a nazi, and like rap. Makes literally no sense.
Of course, this is the same mark ass bitch that went captain save-a-hoe on some hood rat in Detroit, and got kicked to the curb. All the way back to Australia to be exact. Trynna call people "cucks". Bitch, you the very definition of a cuck, dumbass.
Of course, this is the same mark ass bitch that went captain save-a-hoe on some hood rat in Detroit, and got kicked to the curb. All the way back to Australia to be exact. Trynna call people "cucks". Bitch, you the very definition of a cuck, dumbass.
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