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FoeTwin

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|GOD|||ZILLA| said:
Who the F is adonai then.:dead:
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Adonia was the term used to depict "lord," as an authoritive figure. Kind of like the ame way the term vassal was used to dipict knights, both words mean the same thing.

Adonia=Lord

|GOD|||ZILLA| said:
So what is his name? Rastifari
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Rastafari was origioanlly the term used to describe Tafari, or Haile Salassie I of Ethiopia, before he became king. He was also known as The Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, or Jah Rastafari, and because he lead in the fight agianst European invasion in Africa and fought agaisnt the forces of Italy and Germany during the 1940's many Etheopians proclaim Salassie to be the true messiah.
 
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FOE TWIN,
PROVE TO ME, SCRIPTURALLY AND LOgICALLY HOW (gOD) IS HIMSELF, THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.

TRAUMA BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH, BUT WHAT HE STRESSED MAKES ABSOLUTELY SENSE. ADDRESS HIS RESPONSE AND YOU WILL ADDRESS ME ALSO.
 
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FoeTwin

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EDJ: Have you never seen a July fly?

It is a creature that starts out as a little white grub, transforms

over time to become a brown beetle, and then metomorphs yet

again into a large (about 3X the size of the beetle) neon green

fly-eyed creature that has enormous transparent rainbow looking

wings.

Last July I sat on my porch andwatched one come out of its bettle

shell and it was so breathtaking I wish I was able to afford a

video camera becasue I would have taped this magnificent event.

When a mother gives birth to a son, is the child not a direct

decendant of the father? Although we know it takes two to

create a person (a separate entitiy, aside from mother and

father), the human is an extension of the union of souls created

by the parents, correct?

This is the same concept I use to describe the Holy Trinity, for to

me (logically speaking) 'gOD' is the collective whole from which 'g-

ZUS'(an authentic extension of the collective whole we

label "gOD," who has inherited His merciful grace and dreadful

destructive powers) was created, and the Messiah, being the

direct connection to the Almighty, was the forerunner of the Holy

Spirit before His resurrection. Can you overstand ?

I believe when the Messiah went to Mt. Gassimane (sp) to pray,

He was praying for the souls he would greet into Glory (the

prophets who came before Him) and those He knew he would

have to curse into damnation in the Future (now). I can imagine

the task was a hard row to hoe since He already knew the

outcome of this whole world, ya feel? After the Messiah died he

went to Hell and stole the keys of Eternal Spiritual Death from the

author of sin himself, giving man a way to Eternal Peace through

following the teachings of the Truth.

St John 1-14

(Pay attention now,and tell me who and what is the Light)

SOAK IT UP LIKA SPONGUE, FOOD FOR THOUGHT
 
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INTERESTIN' PERSPECTIVE. BUT YOU CANNOT COMPARE 3 DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT ARE ALIVE AT ONCE TO A MORPHED OR MUTATED CREATURE. IS THAT BEETLE ALL THEM 3 THANgS AT ONCE?
 
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FoeTwin

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EDJ said:
INTERESTIN' PERSPECTIVE. BUT YOU CANNOT COMPARE 3 DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT ARE ALIVE AT ONCE TO A MORPHED OR MUTATED CREATURE. IS THAT BEETLE ALL THEM 3 THANgS AT ONCE?
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No, YOU fail to comprehend my answer when I laid it out

smooth and simple; the July Fly is one entity, the same way

Jesus+ Holy Trinity are both derivitives (or products of) God (the

collective whole, also One entitiy). Can you righteously diggit ?

Probably not, you said:

EDJ said:
INTERESTIN' PERSPECTIVE. BUT YOU CANNOT COMPARE 3 DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT ARE ALIVE AT ONCE TO A MORPHED OR MUTATED CREATURE. IS THAT BEETLE ALL THEM 3 THANgS AT ONCE?
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You were listening, but you still didnt hear me;

The July Fly compared to the Holy Trinity (logically speaking, that

is what you asked for a logical explanation; see if you can grasp

this concept right here..)

The same way the fly transforms from one stage to the other

(remember now, it's ONE creature, not three, and likened unto

the collective whole we humans label 'gOD') is the same way the

Creator allowed Itself to be transormed and manefested into a

DIVINE huaman being,who after completing the earthly mission of

leading men to the way to attain salvation, then afterwards sent

a Holy Spirit to comfort those of us who believe in him.

Truth stands alone. If Jesus wasnt God in the flesh,also doubling

as the deliverer of the Holy Spirit, why would he have uttered

these words?I am Alpha and Omega, the beginnig

and the end, first and last Revelation 22:13
 
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To answer the first question about what God's real name is...Research the 'Tetragrammaton" & you will find your answers...

Complete'
 
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This is another area where I reach disagreement with EDJ. His main defense will be the very old defense which is that the word 'Trinity' was never used in the bible. Which in reality has no bearing on the argument. The trinity is simply a word which was made to describe the very idea which was made clear from Genesis to Revelation.
 
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"BUT YOU CANNOT COMPARE 3 DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT ARE ALIVE AT ONCE "

You are not understanding the principles of the trinity. The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit are not 3 entities. They are ONE. They are one which is made of of three 'parts' for lack of a better word. I would recommend looking at it like this.

Take matter for example. There is Solid, liquid and gas (and if you want to be technical plasma gas is the 4th but lets stay with the three). In this example the Solid is not same as the liquid and neither is the liquid the same as gas, yet they are all one matter.

In the same frame of thinking space is made up by height, width and depth. Three seperate properties which make up one entity which is space.
 
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uhhhhh, me and my pops are two seperate things I can assure you of that LOL......

Those example's suck ROFL, thats like me saying I got 3 bikes and their all one, they are all bikes...
 
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Ummmm...no, that is not even close. it you do not have height, width and depth...then space does not exist. They are all completely equal, yet completely defined properties of one entity. Your comprehention level is at a very low level if you see no difference.
 
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your logic level is at ZERO

what "entity" does The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit make up? maybe 5 fingers and a palm make up a hand, but me and my dad are two different people bruh.
and whats this so called "holy spirit"?
 
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"what "entity" does The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit make up?"

"and whats this so called "holy spirit"?"
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Nevermind I thought I was talking to someone who had a clue..........wow.............Can I ask why you even got into this conversation when you have no idea of it's foundation?
 
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FoeTwin

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EDJ said:
ALL I gOT TO SAY IS READ PSALMS 83:18.
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Great, you never answered my question EDJ, Who is the Light?

HTB: What people fail to overstand is that YHWH is a spirit;
The Torah is the foundation of the Word of YHWH delivered unto the prophet Moses who wintnessed the revalations of the Spirit and harkened unto his voice when he reached the burning bush, commanding him to take charge and to travel to Egypt to free the Hebrews from oppression and captivity under Pharoh's tyrant lashes. The Spirit of the Lord, along with the faith held by Moses, split the Red Sea, aiding the Hebrews into safety, while engulfing Pharoh and his army. YHWH revealed himself unto the tribe of Israel at Mt. Horeb, aroused in anger for the failure of his chosen people to obey his commandments given to them by Moses, after they worshipped an idol "gOD".
Yeshuah the Messiah walked this astral plane of existence we label Earth as YHWH manefested in the flesh, allowing men access to the knowledge of Truth and salvation. Through His teachings and the lessons that are to be learned through the sacrifice of His life are the grounds upon which the inspirational Truth, revealed through verses written in the Holy Bible.
The prophesy has yet to be fullfilled, but time is steadily unraveling, and every exhale is a step closer towards the end, inhale.
 
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TETRAGRAMMATON= (in greek)4 letters= yod, he, vau, he(hebrew).......english equivelent is ihvh some substitute the i with a y

thats where the misinterpretation jehova comes from.......

ihshvh = jesus

like ol' dude said it means the spirit made flesh

and like the other said............right to left

jews would read the name and since they believed it was so holy they would substitute it with elohim or adonai...........after a while only the highest priests new the true pronuciation and would pass it on from mouth to ear (in whispers).........they believed the word could bring life to clay hence the legend of gholems...................thats my two cents, i have tons of books on this subject...........i could bring more info for those who are curious..............
 
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ED-gIEN,
PLEASE DO ELABORATE.

FOE-TWIN,
THE LIgHT IS JESUS. CAUSE THRU HIM WE HAVE SALVATION. HE'S THE MEDIATOR. AND I WILL NEVA UNDA-STAND A FALSE DOCTRINE LIKE THE TRINITY CAUSE THAT CONCEPT IS A PAgAN BELIEF ADOPTED FROM OTHA CULTURES AND BLENDED WITH CHRISTAIANITY. LOOK AT THE HINDUS AND EgYPTIANS.
 
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