To All Those whining about Nick Berg

[2-0-Sixx]

See you're not getting me because we have helped. Just taking Saddam out of power itself was helping. If you don't think so then put yourself in the place of some of the women that would be getting raped, some of the men that would be getting killed because of him or the people around him. If that isn't helping then I don't know what is.

Hmmm, last time I check, we killed over 10,000 Iraqi Civilians, not to mention the thousands and thousands of Iraqi soldiers. We are also responsible forTorture, R A P E and murder. Doesn't appear that we helped anything, yet.

We've dumped thousands of tons of DU over Iraq.

Iraq is going to be fucked for YEARS to come. I think it's way to premiture to say we helped at all. Lets see who takes power in Iraq. Lets see what happens then. If you know your history, chances are against Iraq.

 

[FILA|AUS]

^^I understand that but I don't think a lot of people understand that they're doing these things to intentionally hurt us while we're over there to help their people.

hahaha, wtf!

http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx

^ 882 Coalition troops casualties - there is your proof of how much your help is wanted.

Its particularly weird that out of all the countries they could have went to 'liberize' from dictators and regimes your government goes to a oil rich country. Must be just a coincidence tho, just like its a coincidence that Bush's presidential campaign was 95% funded by US oil companies :dead:

Much worse shit was heppning in Haiti for example, and it was basically on your doorstep and you sent one plane out there full of some clowns to only protect the US Embassy. But you sent 200,000 of them into Iraq to steal oil.

Your government and your military, along with every single nation whose government is supporting them, INCLUDING AUSTRALIA are nothing but terrorists, thieves and murderers. Like I said, I'm talking about the US Government and its military, I really hold no grudge whatsoever against United States citizens.

 

[FILA|AUS]

We've dumped thousands of tons of DU over Iraq.

Iraq is going to be fucked for YEARS to come. I think it's way to premiture to say we helped at all. Lets see who takes power in Iraq. Lets see what happens then. If you know your history, chances are against Iraq.

EXACTLY - Depleted Uranium was used in 1999 when Serbia was bombed. It's radioactive material that causes cancer and birth defects. It's actually illegal by the Geneva Convention to be used in combat. They also used cluster bombs, which were if i'm not mistaken outlawed by one of your own Presidents.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

EXACTLY - Depleted Uranium was used in 1999 when Serbia was bombed. It's radioactive material that causes cancer and birth defects. It's actually illegal by the Geneva Convention to be used in combat. They also used cluster bombs, which were if i'm not mistaken outlawed by one of your own Presidents.

Yes, I've posted a number of threads regarding this topic. You should post more in the Gathering of Minds

 

[YOUNG BREW]

^^ yall two need to move on out to iraq and get merfed with them fucks

 

[NASA]

^^^There will always be casualties of war...why can't ya'll understand that??? I seriously think ya'll need to "come into reality."


Yayyuh! get some get right!

 

[2-0-Sixx]

^^^There will always be casualties of war...why can't ya'll understand that??? I seriously think ya'll need to "come into reality."


Yayyuh! get some get right!

Casualties of war. Yes. Purposely using DU. No.

Can't you undestand that I am against the war? Casualties of the war? Yeah, the whole fucking thing is nothing but casualties

click this link and learn about the effects of DU in the first war and then understand that we are doing it again. If you don't feel like reading, scroll to about the middle of the page

 

[MEXCOM]

PART I
GENERAL PROVISIONS
ARTICLE 1
The High Contracting Parties undertake to respect and to ensure respect for the present Convention in all circumstances.

ARTICLE 2
In addition to the provisions which shall be implemented in peace time, the present Convention shall apply to all cases of declared war or of any other armed conflict which may arise between two or more of the High Contracting Parties, even if the state of war is not recognized by one of them.

The Convention shall also apply to all cases of partial or total occupation of the territory of a High Contracting Party, even if the said occupation meets with no armed resistance.

Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention, the Powers who are parties thereto shall remain bound by it in their mutual relations. They shall furthermore be bound by the Convention in relation to the said Power, if the latter accepts and applies the provisions thereof.

ARTICLE 3
In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions:

(1) Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria. To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:

(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture; (b) taking of hostages; (c) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment; (d) the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.

(2) The wounded and sick shall be collected and cared for.

An impartial humanitarian body, such as the International Committee of the Red Cross, may offer its services to the Parties to the conflict.

The Parties to the conflict should further endeavour to bring into force, by means of special agreements, all or part of the other provisions of the present Convention.

The application of the preceding provisions shall not affect the legal status of the Parties to the conflict.

Annex XI: Any mistreatment, humiliation, vulgar, and/or inhumane treatment of prisoners by either party shall be punishable with death unto the offending party and medical treatment to the victim party.

 

[RIX]

YO MAN U SHUD WARN FOOLZ B4 THEY OPEN THIS THREAD YO, I GOT A LIL SIS HERE WHO IS HELLA SENSATIVE TO THAT SHIT... I KNO U EDUCATION N WHAT NOT... BUT PUT UP A WARNING...

THA WAR IS BAD YO, FO BOTH SIDES.... THIS SHIT IS OUTTA CONTROL...

 

[.Nicoya510::]

I dont ponder on things i have no control over, so if im not gonna get strapped and go over to iraq and fight for what i think is right, then ill just quit my bitching, because posting facts and shit about how bad america is and shit wont help accomplish anything.

 

[NASA]

THA WAR IS BAD YO, FO BOTH SIDES.... THIS SHIT IS OUTTA CONTROL...

^^^

 

[RIX]

nothin is getting accomplished... the shit is gettin worse n worse everyday... i wonder wen tha shit gon stop?

 

[The Duke of Earl]

ya'll act like Saddam really cared about his people or he was doing something different to better that country. .

you act like they give a fuck about us






edit:i ment the U.S. Government

 

[NASA]

^^Never said they did!

 

[D.I.R.B]

check this shit out. u fuckin sellout american faggot. as bad as all that shit is, u know nothing but what u see in the images. a lot of those "civilians" are the same ones killing americans. get a fuckin clue before u start coming with some stupidass shit like this u fuckin useless hippy. bush this, bush that. if bush wasn't in office there would've been another 9-11 times 10. why don't u go protest with all of the other useless pieces of shit that wanna cry about what our country is doing instead of the sneaky terrorist type shit that is happening to our soldiers. how dare u accuse people of crying about the man who got his head chopped off. he was helping rebuild iraq. those people are so fucked up it's amazing. go move to their country if u wanna go against america. FUCK YOU

goddamn your an idiot, guess your blinded by your "pride"...

 

[big D]

15 Questions:
1) extremely convenient "wag the dog" timing at the height of furor
regarding U.S. torture of Iraqis
2) CNN poll question: "Is the Berg killing a reason for withholding any
remaining Iraq prisoner abuse pictures?" Bush has been reported to be
struggling with question of whether Pentagon should release additional
torture photos. Given that the alleged decapitation of Berg was allegedly
prompted by the first wave of torture photos, Bush could now cite "national
security" issues for witholding additional materials.
3) Berg's last known whereabouts was in U.S. custody.
4) Berg shown in video wearing orange jumpsuit known to be of U.S. issue
(compare with pictures at Guantanamo).
5) Berg mysteriously captured by Al-Quaeda (still wearing jumpsuit). Either
he escaped from U.S. captors or U.S. let him out -- with orange suit and
all -- to be immediately apprehended by Al-Quaeda (before he had a chance to
change).
6) Tape obviously spliced together and heavily edited. Goes from a) Berg
sitting in chair talking about family, to b) Berg sitting on floor with
hooded "militants" behind, to c) blurry camera movement, to d) almost
motionless Berg on floor as head cut off.
7) Audio clearly dubbed in.
8) "Arab" reader flips through pages of "statement" and keeps ending up on
the same page. Perhaps doesn't even known enough Arabic to recognize what
page he's on?
9) "Arabs" have lily-white hands and (other exposed) skin.
10) "Arabs" have Western-style body posture and mannerisms.
11) When Berg decapitated, there was almost no blood. If Berg were still
alive at this point, with the cut starting at front of throat, blood would
have been spraying everywhere. Berg's severed head, the floor, Berg's
clothes, and even the hand of the "Arab" who decapitated Berg had no visible
blood on it.
12) Berg's body didn't move while on the ground. Although held down, Berg
would have tried to instinctively wiggle and writhe away from captor's grip.
13) Camera angle made it impossible to see if Berg's eyes were even open.
14) Alleged "scream" from Berg sounded to be that of a woman and was clearly
dubbed in.
15) Berg goes to great trouble to identify himself, providing information
about his family. Why? To elicit greater sympathy? Or to provide a
positive ID. FBI visited Berg family in an attempt to "verify his
identity". Guy in video looks very little like Berg photos provided by
family.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

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[DJ Mark 7]

damn I never really thought about that...

 

[5150]

who cares? shit like this been goin on for generations....itll never change....i aint for war and i aint against it, i just dont give a fuck, same shit different day man. this is why i dont watch the news.....always sayin war this war that im gettin sick of hearin it lol
but yeah this country(US) is so far gone, i read bloodlines of the illuminati and everything you know is wrong, good reads yo....it kinda makes you think.....im also gettin sick of hippies and passion of christ ass ppl tryin to stop us from killin an iraqi that killed 6 of our soldiers.....what we ever gona do with sadaam(sp?) too? i say we cut his fuckin head off and eat some of his meat off his limbs...then send the video tape from that shit right to them damn ppl....but course this is all my opinion and alot of you may not agree wit it but its how i feel.....
-one
fucc peace

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Thanks big d