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surcaliman said:
aint no1 disagreeing with u about SUM mexicans having african roots.trust me,my familias from the state of guerrero,go to any of the port towns there and u can see the obvious.i just dont agree about the percentages....like i said..go to guerrero or veracruz..they aint invisable homie.
EXACTLY,THE NUMBERS ARE VERY SMALL,IF THEY WERENT,MEXICO WOULD LOOK LIKE PANAMA,BELIZE,OR THE DOMINCAN REPUBLIC,,AND ABOUT MEXICANS NOT KNOWING ABOUT BLACK PRESENCE IN MEXICO IS NONSENSE,EVERYONE KNOWS VERACRUZ IS ONE PLACE WHERE YOU STILL HAVE BLACK MEXICANS...
 
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EDJ said:
^UNLIMITED TIL THE DAY I DIE. THE TRUTH HAS COME OUT. NEVA WILL THE BLAK BLOOD BE SHUNNED AgAIN. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TRIBES I DERIVE FROM.
What's ironic about this is until you discovered the third root movement, almost nothing you posted on the Sicc had anything to do with Latino / Mexican issues. When asked about Latinos and Mexicans, you would usually call most whitewashed and fake whites. Since I have been on the Siccness your prime interest has been in Black issues....something somewhat funny coming from a half mexican. You regularly refer to yourself as "nigga" or "brotha", but someone would seriously half to pry to find out you are mixed.

When I spoke about the unspoken "black superiority" complex often in America today, this just seems to fit right along with it. You had very little interest in Mexicans / Latino issues on the Sicc until you found out about the Third Root movement.
 
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WHITE DEVIL said:
What's ironic about this is until you discovered the third root movement, almost nothing you posted on the Sicc had anything to do with Latino / Mexican issues. When asked about Latinos and Mexicans, you would usually call most whitewashed and fake whites. Since I have been on the Siccness your prime interest has been in Black issues....something somewhat funny coming from a half mexican. You regularly refer to yourself as "nigga" or "brotha", but someone would seriously half to pry to find out you are mixed.

When I spoke about the unspoken "black superiority" complex often in America today, this just seems to fit right along with it. You had very little interest in Mexicans / Latino issues on the Sicc until you found out about the Third Root movement.
^^^maybe he barely found out his real daddy was mexican....
 
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Race, term historically used to describe a human population distinguishable from others based on shared biological traits. All living human beings belong to one species, Homo sapiens. The concept of race stems from the idea that the human species can be naturally subdivided into biologically distinct groups. In practice, however, scientists have found it impossible to separate humans into clearly defined races. Most scientists today reject the concept of biological race and instead see human biological variation as falling along a continuum. Nevertheless, race persists as a powerful social and cultural concept used to categorize people based on perceived differences in physical appearance and behavior.

Interest in defining races came from the recognition of easily visible differences among human groups. Around the world, human populations differ in their skin color, eye color and shape, hair color and texture, body shape, stature, limb proportions, and other physical characteristics. However, most anthropologists and biologists regard these differences between populations as largely superficial, resulting from adaptations to local climatic conditions during the most recent period of human evolution. Genetic analysis, which provides a deeper and more reliable measure of biological differences between people, reveals that overall, people are remarkably similar in their genetic makeup. Of the genetic differences that do exist, more variation occurs within so-called racial groups than between them. That is, two people from the same “race” are, on average, almost as biologically different from each other as any two people in the world chosen at random. This high degree of genetic diversity exists within populations because individuals from different populations have always intermingled and mated with each other. Given that populations have interbred for most of human history, most anthropologists reject the idea that “pure” races existed at some time in the distant past. Today, genetic analysis has replaced earlier methods of comparing color, shape, and size to establish degrees of relationship or common ancestry among human populations.

The term race is often misunderstood and misused. It is often confused with ethnicity, an ambiguous term that refers mostly, though not exclusively, to cultural (non-biological) differences between groups. An ethnic group derives its identity from its distinctive customs, language, ancestry, place of origin, or style of dress. For example, the Hispanic ethnic group comprises people who trace their ancestry to Spanish-speaking countries in the Western Hemisphere. Although some people assume Hispanics have a common genetic heritage, in reality they share only a language. Members of an ethnic group with a common geographic origin often do share similar physical features. But people of the same ethnic group may also have very different physical appearances, and conversely, people of different ethnic groups may look quite similar. People may also mistakenly use the term race to refer to a religion, culture, or nationality—as in the “Jewish race” or the “Italian race”—whose members may or may not share a common ancestry. The term race is also sometimes used to refer to the entire human species, as in the “human race.” In everyday language, the distinction between race and ethnicity has become blurred, and many people use the terms to mean the same thing.

Many people believe, falsely, that differences in physical appearance have something to do with differences in the behavior, attitude, intelligence, or intrinsic worth of people. These beliefs promote racism, prejudice or animosity against people perceived to belong to other races. At its worst, racism has inspired the abuse and extermination of enormous numbers of people. Recent historical examples included the near-extermination of Native Americans by European settlers of the Americas between the 16th and 20th centuries, the capture and export of Africans for use as slaves in the Americas from the early 17th to the mid-19th century, the extermination of Jews in Europe by German Nazis during World War II (1939-1945), and the system of apartheid perpetrated by Afrikaners against all nonwhite peoples in South Africa.
 
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Ricky530Furl said:
so its point of views???

I just said that cuz i read it in an enyclopedia once
just cause its in a encyclopidia does'nt mean its fact....also,ask urself..was it a mexican encyclopidia written by mexicans or was it a gavachos book?
 
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^^^ i get you.......similar to saying......was it republican or democrat......was it christian or jewish

cuz everyone has point of views i understand
 
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Ricky530Furl said:
Race, term historically used to describe a human population distinguishable from others based on shared biological traits. All living human beings belong to one species, Homo sapiens. The concept of race stems from the idea that the human species can be naturally subdivided into biologically distinct groups. In practice, however, scientists have found it impossible to separate humans into clearly defined races. Most scientists today reject the concept of biological race and instead see human biological variation as falling along a continuum. Nevertheless, race persists as a powerful social and cultural concept used to categorize people based on perceived differences in physical appearance and behavior.

Interest in defining races came from the recognition of easily visible differences among human groups. Around the world, human populations differ in their skin color, eye color and shape, hair color and texture, body shape, stature, limb proportions, and other physical characteristics. However, most anthropologists and biologists regard these differences between populations as largely superficial, resulting from adaptations to local climatic conditions during the most recent period of human evolution. Genetic analysis, which provides a deeper and more reliable measure of biological differences between people, reveals that overall, people are remarkably similar in their genetic makeup. Of the genetic differences that do exist, more variation occurs within so-called racial groups than between them. That is, two people from the same “race” are, on average, almost as biologically different from each other as any two people in the world chosen at random. This high degree of genetic diversity exists within populations because individuals from different populations have always intermingled and mated with each other. Given that populations have interbred for most of human history, most anthropologists reject the idea that “pure” races existed at some time in the distant past. Today, genetic analysis has replaced earlier methods of comparing color, shape, and size to establish degrees of relationship or common ancestry among human populations.

The term race is often misunderstood and misused. It is often confused with ethnicity, an ambiguous term that refers mostly, though not exclusively, to cultural (non-biological) differences between groups. An ethnic group derives its identity from its distinctive customs, language, ancestry, place of origin, or style of dress. For example, the Hispanic ethnic group comprises people who trace their ancestry to Spanish-speaking countries in the Western Hemisphere. Although some people assume Hispanics have a common genetic heritage, in reality they share only a language. Members of an ethnic group with a common geographic origin often do share similar physical features. But people of the same ethnic group may also have very different physical appearances, and conversely, people of different ethnic groups may look quite similar. People may also mistakenly use the term race to refer to a religion, culture, or nationality—as in the “Jewish race” or the “Italian race”—whose members may or may not share a common ancestry. The term race is also sometimes used to refer to the entire human species, as in the “human race.” In everyday language, the distinction between race and ethnicity has become blurred, and many people use the terms to mean the same thing.

Many people believe, falsely, that differences in physical appearance have something to do with differences in the behavior, attitude, intelligence, or intrinsic worth of people. These beliefs promote racism, prejudice or animosity against people perceived to belong to other races. At its worst, racism has inspired the abuse and extermination of enormous numbers of people. Recent historical examples included the near-extermination of Native Americans by European settlers of the Americas between the 16th and 20th centuries, the capture and export of Africans for use as slaves in the Americas from the early 17th to the mid-19th century, the extermination of Jews in Europe by German Nazis during World War II (1939-1945), and the system of apartheid perpetrated by Afrikaners against all nonwhite peoples in South Africa.

this comes form MSN Encarta just go to msn.com and search Races in Encarta
 
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EDJ said:
I gOT ONE WORD FOR EVERYTHANg YOU JUST MENTIONED WICCED. SELF-HATE. THAT'S WHY THE AFRICAN MEXICAN WENT INVISIBLE.

SURCALIMAN,
THEN HELP A NIgKA OUT CUZZ. SPREAD THE WORD. BUT MY MUSIC WILL SPREAD TRUTH. BEST BELIEVE I'M COMIN' OUT WITH AN ALL SPANISH ALBUM AND DO SOME MEXICAN PILgRIMAgE TO RECRUIT FOR MY LABEL. AND IF THERE WAS A MOVIE ABOUT THIS, WOULD IT gET REJECTED? WHAT KIND OF SHIT WOULD IT START? KNOWLEDgE IS POWER.

it will never work mayne..

good luck though...

5000
 
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Ricky530Furl said:
for real?... what mart of Michoacan are you from?

My mom is form a town called Teremendo (like 15 miles away from Morelia or so)

My dad is from a town called Tecacho (Like 30 miles away from Morelia or so)

idk my uncle know the language he was teaching me hella words when i went to mexico but i forgot them all other than the translation from tortilla to CHUSCUTA
Thats sick G...
PARACHO is the city...that my blood runs from..
but I have been told about a city called San Geronimo......And from what I understand my great-grandfather was quite a important man in this city...and help set laws and things..






I just got done talking to my cousins about this shit..
and they come up from Paracho every year...to work here 10 months outta the year...
they leave their wives and kids down there...and come bust they ass for $$$..
then go back..for 2 months..

anyway...i got a trip planned to go down there...in November..
not this year...but next year..


@ EDJ

dude...we live in 2006. I dont know if you know what that means..
but..i guess what im saying is. I dont know any "mexicans"...NOT 1..besides you....that would dig a "black lookin" dude....rappin in spanish...about how Mexicans have "black" blood in them..

Im just being real. Not hateful.

5000
 

EDJ

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^I WAS OUT AND ABOUT. I DON'T LIVE ON THIS INTERNET SHIT. PLUS I HAD TO FINISH A FEW THANgS(LIKE MY SUBMISSION FOR THE NEW SICCNESS LOgO). PLUS DIDN'T YOU READ:
"TO EVERYONE ELSE,
I'LL gET BAK TO THIS, I HAVE TO BE ON THE ROAD AND HANDLE SHIT."

BUT TO YOUR ORIgINAL STATEMENTS,

YOU STRESSED, "dude...we live in 2006. I dont know if you know what that means..
but..i guess what im saying is. I dont know any "mexicans"...NOT 1..besides you....that would dig a "black lookin" dude....rappin in spanish...about how Mexicans have "black" blood in them.."

YOU DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE WORLD, PLUS IT'S MORE ABOUT THE YOUTH SOAKIN' UP SOME NEW gAME ABOUT THEMSELVES, THUS THEM ACCEPTIN' WHAT'S TRUE AND NOT WHAT'S BEEN TRADITIONALLY KNOWN AND SHUNNED.

AND IT'S A SHAME THAT MEXICANS HAVE BEEN CONDITONED TO NOT ACCEPT WHAT'S DARK(ER), THUS YOUR COLONIALISTIC MENTALITY. BUT I BET IF THE RAPPER WAS LIgHTER, THEY MIgHT ACCEPT THE MESSAgE , HUH? JUST LIKE WHEN EMINEM JUMPED ON THE SCENE(HOW MANY WHITE PEOPLE REALLY LIKED RAP AFTER THAT?) BUT IF TEgO CALDERON AND DON OMAR CAN COME OUT AND gET SUPPORT, THEN I FEEL A WHOLE gENERATION CAN BE LACED.


THEN YOU STRESSED, "Im just being real. Not hateful."

AND REALITY IS SOME BULLSHIT. THAT'S WHY THERE'S MUTHA-FUKAS LIKE ME, THAT WILL TELL IT LIKE IT IS, WHETHA THEY LOVE ME OR HATE ME.


SURCALIMAN,

I ALREADY READ THAT THREAD. IT'S PART OF THE SAME LINKS I LEFT FOR YOU. WHAT YOU TRYIN' TO PULL?
 

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WICCED,
YOU STRESSED, "ONE OF MY CRIME PARTNERS FROM MY YOUNGSTER DAYS IS PUERTO RICAN ,I KNOW HIS FAMILY FOR A LONG TIME,WHEN EVER SOMEBODY WOULD MISTAKE THEM AS "BLACK" THEY WOULD GET ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE, ALL OF THEM INCLUDING HIS GRANDFATHER DENY IT,NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY,THEY WOULD ALWAYS SAY "WE AINT BLACK WE PUERTO RICAN" ALL PROUD LIKE.."

THEY IDENTIFY THEMSELVES BY COUNTRY. AND IN THAT PATRIOTISM SHUN THEY BLAKNESS. PLUS, THIS IS JUST ANOTHA EXAMPLE ABOUT PROVIN' MY POINT. THANKS CUZZ.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I GREW UP IN WEST L.A. WHICH HAS A HUGE CENTRAL AMERICAN COMMUNITY,BUT HAVE PEOPLE FROM BELIZE,PANAMA AND OTHERS AND IT WAS COMMON KNOWLEDGE SINCE I WAS IN LITTLE KID, NEVER ADRESS THEM AS BLACK BECAUSE IT WAS A TOUCHY SUBJECT & SOME MIGHT TAKE OFFENSE..."

EXACTLY. ANOTHA EXAMPLE OF AN IDENTITY CRISIS. THEY NEED TO EMBRACE WHO THEY REALLY ARE AND MAKE OTHAS ACCEPT AND RESPECT. ALL THAT SHUNNIN' AND ASHAMED SHIT IS FOR THE BIRDS. THAT'S WHY SHIT IS HOW IT IS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "SAMMY SOSA ALSO SAID ONCE IN AN INTERVIEW HE CONSIDERED HIMSELF LATINO NOT BLACK.....IT MUST BE DIFFRENT WERE YOU FROM,BUT EVEN IN NEW YORK BLACKS & PUERTO RICANS REGULARLY BEEF.."

MOST LATINOS OF BLAK DECENT gET THE STEREOTYPES OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF THE BLAK MAN IN AMERIKKKA, AND THUS SHUN THAT. THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T IDENTIFY WITH SUCH. PLUS THEY UPBRINgIN' IS SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT. SO IT'S A CULTURAL ISSUE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "CAN YOU NAME ONE HIGH PROFILE PUERTO RICAN OR OTHERS YOU MENTIONED THAT HAVE EMBRACED THIER BLACKNESS,I NEVER MET ONE OR HEARD OF ONE..ITS SEEMS TO ME THOSE COUNTRIES IF ANYBODY ELSE NEED TO FACE REALITY BECAUSE ITS STARING THEM RIGHT IN THIER FACE.."

CELIA CRUZ MIgHT HAVE. BUT I BELIEVE THANgS ARE CHANgIN' NOW SINCE THERE'S MORE OF A CONSCIOUSNESS. BUT I HIgHLY AgREE WITH YOU, THAT MUTHA-FUKAS NEED TO FACE REALITY. CAUSE I ONCE READ AN ARTICLE ABOUT HOW CUBANS ALL CONSIDERED THEMSELVES CUBAN TIL THEY CAME TO AMERIKKKA. THAT'S WHEN THE RACIAL DIVISION HAPPENED. THE LIgHTER CUBANS IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS WHITE, WHILE THE BLAK ONES NATURALLY EMBRACED THEY BLAKNESS AND FELT THE RACISM HERE. BUT BAK IN CUBA THEY WERE ALL THE SAME.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "ON ANOTHER NOTE

WHY DO SOME BLACK FOLK ,REJECT THAT AFRICAN AMERICAN LABEL..AND GET ALL TOUCHY WHEN CALLED THAT..I SEEN THAT FIRST HAND"

TO ANSWER THAT BLATANTLY, IT gOES TO DO WITH WHERE WE AT. AIN'T NO CONNECTION TO AFRICA, CAUSE WE WERE ROBBED OF OUR LAND AND CULTURE. SO ASSIMILATION TO THE LAND WE AT IS ONE ANSWER. PLUS PERSONALLY I FEEL, THAT WE AIN'T DIRECTLY FROM AFRICA AND THEN BECAME NATURALIZED. BUT THERE'S A THREAD THAT TOUCHES ON THAT:

http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=78510

SUR CALI MAN,
YOU STRESSED, "aint no1 disagreeing with u about SUM mexicans having african roots.trust me,my familias from the state of guerrero,go to any of the port towns there and u can see the obvious.i just dont agree about the percentages...."

WHY?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "like i said..go to guerrero or veracruz..they aint invisable homie."

I AIN'T TALKIN PHYSICALLY INVISIBLE LIKE THEY SCARED TO COME OUT. I'M TALKIN' ABOUT A NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL CONCENSUS. HOW MANY PEOPLE KNOW THEY EVEN EXIST? THERE EXISTENCE HAS BEEN SHUNNED, JUST LIKE REAL MEXICAN HISTORY.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "simon..my p.r. homie calls em mayates...fukin trip huh?"

IgNORANCE AT IT'S FINEST. JUST gOES TO SHOW HOW DEEP THE RACISM IS ENTRENCHED.

RICCYFURL,
YOU STRESSED, "and hate to say this but mexican people are actually part of the white race we are hispanic by ethnicicity"

LOL. DO YOU WORK FOR THE INS? MEXICANS HAVE 3 BLOODS IN THEM. WHAT YOU JUST STRESSED SOUNDS LIKE STRAIgHT COLONIALISTIC BRAINWASH. LOOK AT THE LINKS I PROVIDED HERE:
http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=184058

EDUCATE YOURSELF.


WHITE DEVIL,

YOU STRESSED, "What's ironic about this is until you discovered the third root movement, almost nothing you posted on the Sicc had anything to do with Latino / Mexican issues."

NOT TRUE. SEARCH TOPICS AND SEE HOW SOMETIMES I JUST COME OUT RIPPIN' HOLES IN SPANISH. BUT CAUSE OF THE RACIST NATURE OF SOME MEXICAN CULTURE, I'M SOMETIMES ASHAMED OF IT, AND REALLY DON'T FUK WITH IT, TIL NOW.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "When asked about Latinos and Mexicans, you would usually call most whitewashed and fake whites."

NO, I SAID MOST WERE NOTHIN' BUT WHITEBOYS WITH SPANISH LAST NAMES. gET IT RIgHT. AND WHY I STRESSED THIS IS CAUSE IT'S TRUE. HOW MANY DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEXICAN DIALECT, BUT QUIK TO CALL THEMSELVES MEXICAN OR DOWN THE REAL MEXICANS(MEXICAN NATIONALS). THEY TOO AMERIKKKANIZED IN THE ANgLO SUBCULTURE. SOME WILL JUST UPHOLD THEY WHITE OR SPANIARD BLOOD AND DENOUNCE THE OTHAS(LIKE YOU).

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Since I have been on the Siccness your prime interest has been in Black issues...."

AND WHY NOT? IT'S PART OF ME.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "something somewhat funny coming from a half mexican."

THAT gREW UP IN THE HOOD. SO WHY IS IT SOMEWHAT FUNNY? IT DOESN'T FIT YOUR gENERALIZED PERCEPTION?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You regularly refer to yourself as "nigga" or "brotha", but someone would seriously half to pry to find out you are mixed."

LOOK AT MY PROFILE MUTHA-FUKA. IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE DAY ONE. EVEN BEFORE THEY RE-MADE THIS SITE TO BE .NET I STRESSED THAT I HAD MEXICAN BLOOD IN ME AND SPOKE ON MEXICAN ISSUES. ASK IF YOU CAN'T SEARCH. I CAN gIVE YOU SPECIFIC NAMES THAT CAN VOUCH FOR ME. BUT I AIN'T gONNA ACT FUNNY STYLE AND DENOUNCE THE BLAK SIDE. IF N-E-THANg, I'M gONNA UPHOLD THAT. I AIN'T YOU.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "When I spoke about the unspoken "black superiority" complex often in America today, this just seems to fit right along with it."

LOL. SO I'M BLAK AND SUPERIOR NOW? YOU JUST INTIMIDATED CAUSE YOU CHOOSE TO BE WHITE AND STEREOTYPICALLY DENOUNCE YOUR MEXICAN SIDE. HELL, YOU WOULD EVEN JOIN THE ARYAN BROTHERHOOD IF IT CAME DOWN TO IT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You had very little interest in Mexicans / Latino issues on the Sicc until you found out about the Third Root movement."

NOT REALLY. BUT THAT THIRD ROOT MOVEMENT DID MAKE ME APPRECIATE MY MEXICAN SIDE MORE AND I BELIEVE IT WILL CLOSE THE RACIAL gAP BETWEEN BLAKS AND MEXICANS.


ZIg-ZAgBURNA,

YOU STRESSED, "lol.......no i don't have a problem with black people.....i luv all races....

IS THAT WHY YOU POSTED THIS BULLSHIT YOU CLOSET RACIST:

http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=192659&page=5 (TOP OF THE PAgE)


THEN YOU STRESSED, "you name it i'll embrace them."

IS THAT WHY YOU POSTED THIS BULLSHIT YOU CLOSET RACIST:

http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=192659&page=4 (BOTTOM OF THE PAgE)


THEN YOU STRESSED, "So to me skin color and languages don't mean nothing negative to me."

IS THAT WHY YOU SAID THIS SHIT YOU LYIN' CLOSET RACIST:

http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=192659&page=4 (BOTTOM OF THE PAgE)
 

EDJ

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^FOR ONE,
I BEEN TO MEXICO AND SEEN HOW THE COLONIALISTIC MENTALITY ABOUT HOW "WHITE IS BETTER" IS THE NORM AND HOW MEXICAN SOCIETY HAS SHUNNED THEY BLAKNESS. PLUS IN THE PENITENTIARY AND THE STREETS I SEEN THE SHIT. SO TO SAY THAT I'M SPEAKIN' OUT MY ASS IS NOT CONCISE AND TO SAY THAT I SAID "ALL" MEXICANS ARE THIS WAY IS ALSO INACCURATE.
ZIg-ZAg, ON THE OTHA HAND, JUST BROUgHT THAT SHIT UP LIKE IT WAS FACT TO TRY TO BELITTLE AND PROVE A POINT, WHEN THAT'S NOT THE CASE, WHEN MUTHA-FUKAS WASN'T EVEN TALKIN' BOUT THAT. HE gENERALIZED IN A HATEFUL WAY TO EARN BROWNIE POINTS OR SAMETHIN'. THERE'S LAZY PEOPLE EVERYWHERE.
THERE'S RACIST PEOPLE EVERYWHERE. BUT IN MY STANCE I SEEN THE SOCIETY MEXICO IS IN, AND FOR THE MOST PART, THAT TYPE OF MENTALITY AND BEHAVIOR IS CONDONED. IT ALL COMES DOWN TO PRIDE.