THIS IS A VALID QUESTION.

[Villain]

This topic got way off base...

Music is music, and can be listened too by anyone who feels it...Music does not belong to any one race or culture...

I'm black, and I listen to hard rock and metal 90% of the time...does this mean, I can't like it or support it, or feel where they're coming from when they sing it?!?!?!? cause I'm black??? Hell, if I'd could play an instrument, that's the kinda music I'd wanna make...

And folks do look at me crazy, when I'm at rock shows, or drive past em, bumpin Disturbed or Flaw...but fuck'em...

Some folks, made some valid arguments, on this thread, and some didn't...but Shea has a great fucking point, that a lot of people on here, intentionally type ass-backwards crazy...and you can't understand a lot of what they're saying...

If the people that type like that, actually talk like that...all I gotta say is stay in school kids...

English is English...Ebonics is not a real language...

 

[jay deuce]

I'm black, and I listen to hard rock and metal 90% of the time...does this mean, I can't like it or support it, or feel where they're coming from when they sing it?!?!?!? cause I'm black??? Hell, if I'd could play an instrument, that's the kinda music I'd wanna make...

According to tadou, no you can't. You culture hijacker you.

 

[tadou]

I said nothing about Rock&Roll.....? This isn't about Rock, Rock has already been flooded by the masses. And so has Jazz. This is about the new form, nay, the supreme form of music, that gains real momentum and infrastructure by the day as other de facto farm systems fade into the background.

Rap IS and WILL BE the greatest form of music ever created...period. The marraige of Prose, Poetry and Music is one of the greatest (if not the #1) artistic achivements of the 20th century. There IS NO other distinguishable form that will come about, save for one created synthetically or by specialized recording/studio practices--and you can quote me on that.

The same people behind this "another form will be created, most likely in the inner city" mentality, are the same people that will say: "Don't worry about racism, it'll go away in time!" -- Time is not just some Variable that you can keep throwing around to give people false hope. PROGRESS needs to be shown. -- Instead, what these people would like is to have the controls handed to them, saying "share"; and for the minority to honestly believe that something else will come around.

I have no problem with white people rapping or listening to rap, don't get it confused; what I fear is those who would choose to use their knowledge of hip-hop as a hammer to smash down the voice of people who don't fit their own archetypes. Time and again, I see these negative comments about "you're not the next Nelly" and all of this, almost as if this person is saying: "I'm white, its my people that have the money, and nobody will support you if you continue." -- This is more or less extortion and a scare tactic, from someone who MAY AS WELL represent an anti-Minority think tank; someone who MORE THAN LIKELY has never lived amongst minorities; and someone who MORE THAN LIKELY has close contact with both parents, a higher income, and so on.

This is about protecting the last bastion against use as, not just an artform, but as a a jagged-edged smashing tool, by people who are too ignorant to understand its cultural implications. For goodness sakes, there is people running around telling other people that they shouldn't rap or that they are wasting their time! That is rediculous! Rap has only been around some 30 years and, already, they want to spread their backward philosophy that, unless you're an industry slave (and making millions of dollars for the historically white infrastructure), that you can't make your own money, and this is shameful.

The same way we have a moral arguement for Affirmative Action...I believe we have an obligation to keep people in line who might get out of their hand. Black people have nothiing to gain financially by bashing each other's lyrical talent; Latino persons have nothing to gain as well; White people who bash the talents of another MAY AS WELL be acting in the same capacity as a sabateur.

But of course, those who will never get it...will never get it. They will continue to walk around thinking they know and understand all about minority people, since they know intimately a few blacks and asians and so on; completely disregarding the fact that they have barely scratched the surface, especially for mixed-race minorities. There is a reason mixed race minorities drift towards their minority component(s), and anyone who tells you they do not know why, is lying. And here's a hint: Its not just to be cool.

 

[Villain]

Rap IS and WILL BE the greatest form of music ever created...period.

Ummmm...I wouldn't go that far...