The Vikings will have triple the wins the Raiders have this season

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thascary1 said:
Coon,

Other than AP, what on offense makes you believe your team is headed in the right direction?

Just wondering.
o-line is going to be one of the best in the league. Jackson has looked solid so far, we got taylor to go along with AP, Rice and Allison are going to be great young receivers, williamson has worked extremely hard this offseason on his hands and if he can improve just slightly he can be solid. Our defense is only going to improve from last season, in two preseason games we have like 7 turnovers and 4 have been returned for scores. Im not saying that we're going to be great this year but i think in our division theres always a chance for playoffs. We're building a good foundation while the raiders are doing....well nothing really. O and we have our first round pick from last year(Greenway) back after injury and hes looked fuckin great so far, peter king said he is one of the fastest linebackers hes ever seen.
 
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coondogg26 said:
o-line is going to be one of the best in the league. Jackson has looked solid so far, we got taylor to go along with AP, Rice and Allison are going to be great young receivers, williamson has worked extremely hard this offseason on his hands and if he can improve just slightly he can be solid. Our defense is only going to improve from last season, in two preseason games we have like 7 turnovers and 4 have been returned for scores. Im not saying that we're going to be great this year but i think in our division theres always a chance for playoffs. We're building a good foundation while the raiders are doing....well nothing really. O and we have our first round pick from last year(Greenway) back after injury and hes looked fuckin great so far, peter king said he is one of the fastest linebackers hes ever seen.
Sorry not sold on your wr's....Detroit also has had great young wr's and lok how that has turned out for 100 years st8 now.

Jackson is hardly a short term solution much less a long term solution.

Sure your o-line is good, but stacking the line against a rookie rb because noone fears your qb or wr's makes them pretty much moot.

I do agree however about your division and always having a chance to compete!
 
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thascary1 said:
Sorry not sold on your wr's....Detroit also has had great young wr's and lok how that has turned out for 100 years st8 now.

Jackson is hardly a short term solution much less a long term solution.

Sure your o-line is good, but stacking the line against a rookie rb because noone fears your qb or wr's makes them pretty much moot.

I do agree however about your division and always having a chance to compete!
dont judge jackson just yet give him a chance first, and im not sold on the wr's yet either but i think there is alot of potential there and they definitely can stretch the field. I think the vikings are the most difficult team to judge this year because they have the potential to be very good but they also may be poor. We'll just have to wait and see, but all the realistic people can see that we're in better shape than the raiders tho.
 
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coondogg26 said:
dont judge jackson just yet give him a chance first, and im not sold on the wr's yet either but i think there is alot of potential there and they definitely can stretch the field. I think the vikings are the most difficult team to judge this year because they have to potential to be very good but they also may be poor. We'll just have to wait and see, but all the realistic people can see that we're in better shape than the raiders tho.

oh theres no denying that
 

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Nebulizah said:
Go ahead, bring on the hate.
You brought the hate to yourself faggot....Dumb ass....The raiders will have one of the top five defenses this year....From the looks of pre season, our line is alot better than last.....We are going for necks this year bitch...Just like always...even if we did go 2-14 last year...we have the realest fans in the nfl, that will rep thier team through more bullshit than the average fan will put up with....This is a bay area forum we rep the bay and our teams...you stupid faggot..talkin bout bring on the hate...You strarted the hate and we will finish your ass off...
 

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coondogg26 said:
Haha raiders fans are so stupid haha you have the worst franchise in sports and you still argue. Even if the vikings dont have triple the wins this year i can promise you that our franchise is headed in the right direction while yours is stuck in the past with a fuckin 107 year old man running things. I mean you cant even get the first overall pick signed, when every other year the player signs before the fuckin draft, what kind of joke is that? I feel bad for the fans because ur very loyal and deserve better, but when are u going to start realizing that as long as Al Davis is still around you will go no where.
Why pay someone who hasent proven themselves in this leauge....Especially a qb, have you ever heard of ryan leaf? Qb is a hit or miss position...Al Davis is a savage and always tries to put us in position to...JUST WIN BABY....Just like when we went no where playing in the super bowl a couple years ago....When was the last time the vikings made it to the super bowl? WHEN...Or the NFC championship do you remember the year 2000 New York Giants 41, Minnesota Vikings 0
 
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Joey said:
Why pay someone who hasent proven themselves in this leauge....Especially a qb, have you ever heard of ryan leaf? Qb is a hit or miss position...Al Davis is a savage and always tries to put us in position to...JUST WIN BABY....Just like when we went no where playing in the super bowl a couple years ago....When was the last time the vikings made it to the super bowl? WHEN...Or the NFC championship do you remember the year 2000 New York Giants 41, Minnesota Vikings 0
i can promise you the Vikings will be seeing the super bowl long before the raiders will. Al Davis is an old man who has no idea of what it takes to win in the modern NFL. You and Al can keep living in the past if you want, im looking to the future.
 
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coondogg26 said:
Haha raiders fans are so stupid haha you have the worst franchise in sports and you still argue. Even if the vikings dont have triple the wins this year i can promise you that our franchise is headed in the right direction while yours is stuck in the past with a fuckin 107 year old man running things. I mean you cant even get the first overall pick signed, when every other year the player signs before the fuckin draft, what kind of joke is that? I feel bad for the fans because ur very loyal and deserve better, but when are u going to start realizing that as long as Al Davis is still around you will go no where.
We will see when the raiders and vikings play this season. This post shows nothing but hate, nothing to back up what your saying. The raiders had one of the top defenses in the league last season and will continue to build off of that success, especially with the addition of players like donavan darius, and rookie's quentin moses and jay richardson. The offense will be improved now that the o-line has been re-done and they implemented zone blocking.

The raiders have a lot more weapons then the vikings on defense and offense. I'm not saying they will have a winning season but they will be a lot better then art shell's excuse for a team.
 
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cro-mag said:
We will see when the raiders and vikings play this season. This post shows nothing but hate, nothing to back up what your saying. The raiders had one of the top defenses in the league last season and will continue to build off of that success, especially with the addition of players like donavan darius, and rookie's quentin moses and jay richardson. The offense will be improved now that the o-line has been re-done and they implemented zone blocking.

The raiders have a lot more weapons then the vikings on defense and offense. I'm not saying they will have a winning season but they will be a lot better then art shell's excuse for a team.
we had the best defense against the run and almost set the all time record for least yards allowed in a season. Our pass defense was weak for two reasons, 1. we couldn't put pressure on the qb, and 2. Fred Smoot. Smoot is gone and our focus this offseason was more blitzes with our new d-coordinator and d-line pressure. I predict a top 10 overall defense and very possibly top 5. And how can you say you have more offensive weapons then us. The raiders were the only team who had a worse offense then us last year and you did nothing substantial to improve your horrible o-line which is your main problem. We added Adrian Peterson who has, next to calvin johnson, the best chance to win ROY. You guys had randy moss and you still sucked, what does that say? Your RB sucks and are injured, and you will again have the worst offense in the league. You need a new argument, and you my friend have nothing to back up what ur saying about your offense. Ill agree your defense is good but please dont say you have a good offense.
 
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coondogg26 said:
we had the best defense against the run and almost set the all time record for least yards allowed in a season. Our pass defense was weak for two reasons, 1. we couldn't put pressure on the qb, and 2. Fred Smoot. Smoot is gone and our focus this offseason was more blitzes with our new d-coordinator and d-line pressure. I predict a top 10 overall defense and very possibly top 5. And how can you say you have more offensive weapons then us. The raiders were the only team who had a worse offense then us last year and you did nothing substantial to improve your horrible o-line which is your main problem. We added Adrian Peterson who has, next to calvin johnson, the best chance to win ROY. You guys had randy moss and you still sucked, what does that say? Your RB sucks and are injured, and you will again have the worst offense in the league. You need a new argument, and you my friend have nothing to back up what ur saying about your offense. Ill agree your defense is good but please dont say you have a good offense.
Why are you going off of last season to describe the raiders offense? It is a completely different situation now. A brand new head coach, o-coordinator, and o-lineman coach. They completely restructured the o-line, and brought in 2 new starters. The biggest difference is o-line coach tom cable has introduced the zone blocking scheme similar to what the broncos and falcons use. If you've watched the preseason games they are blocking much better then last season and giving the qb time which was their biggest problem last season. If they don't get the o-line improved they will have problems again but so far it is looking a lot better.

And in regards to the offensive weapons, the vikings have a group of inexperienced no name recievers, I think their top wr is bobby wade. A young inexperienced qb. Adrian Peterson will be good though. The raiders now have 2 veteran qb's culpepper and mccown, which I think culpepper will get the starting job. They are solid at rb with jordan and rhodes. And wr porter and curry are both good, also rookie zach miller will is already looking good this preseason.

I do agree with you the vikings have a good defense, but the offense won't be on field enough to help them out.
 
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cro-mag said:
Why are you going off of last season to describe the raiders offense? It is a completely different situation now. A brand new head coach, o-coordinator, and o-lineman coach. They completely restructured the o-line, and brought in 2 new starters. The biggest difference is o-line coach tom cable has introduced the zone blocking scheme similar to what the broncos and falcons use. If you've watched the preseason games they are blocking much better then last season and giving the qb time which was their biggest problem last season. If they don't get the o-line improved they will have problems again but so far it is looking a lot better.

And in regards to the offensive weapons, the vikings have a group of inexperienced no name recievers, I think their top wr is bobby wade. A young inexperienced qb. Adrian Peterson will be good though. The raiders now have 2 veteran qb's culpepper and mccown, which I think culpepper will get the starting job. They are solid at rb with jordan and rhodes. And wr porter and curry are both good, also rookie zach miller will is already looking good this preseason.

I do agree with you the vikings have a good defense, but the offense won't be on field enough to help them out.
Lets just agree that both of our teams are not quite there yet, but we'll see whose further along in November.
 
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coondogg26 said:
i can promise you the Vikings will be seeing the super bowl long before the raiders will. Al Davis is an old man who has no idea of what it takes to win in the modern NFL. You and Al can keep living in the past if you want, im looking to the future.

NOT A CHANCE. AND LET'S NOT FORGET- WE WHIPPED YALLS SORRY ASSES IN THE SUPERBOWL. UNTILL YOU GET ONE RING-SHUT THE FUCK UP!
 
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lmao@Raiders fans, exactly the type of "faggot" and "if yall played in the AFC...." type of responses I expected.

woulda, coulda, shoulda, what if, what about... blah blah blah, same shit Al Davis been sayin to himself for how many years now?

lol

we'll see what happens... I still like my odds
 
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Nebulizah said:
lmao@Raiders fans, exactly the type of "faggot" and "if yall played in the AFC...." type of responses I expected.

woulda, coulda, shoulda, what if, what about... blah blah blah, same shit Al Davis been sayin to himself for how many years now?

lol

we'll see what happens... I still like my odds

DID YOU LIKE YOUR ODDS WHEN WE WHIPPED YALLS ASSES IN THE SUPERBOWL?:dead:
 
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My homie is a die-hard old school Vikings fan, and we always make a Viking vs Chargers bet before the season starts.

Last year it was regular season records for $100, which of course I had locked by week 7 or so.

This year he wanted to change it a bit and we got $100 on "who goes further". In the event that the Chargers get a bye again, he would still have to win that first playoff game.

We also got $40 that the Vikings will have at least 2 picks when they play the Chargers.

What do you guys think of my bets this year?
 

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enserio said:
My homie is a die-hard old school Vikings fan, and we always make a Viking vs Chargers bet before the season starts.

Last year it was regular season records for $100, which of course I had locked by week 7 or so.

This year he wanted to change it a bit and we got $100 on "who goes further". In the event that the Chargers get a bye again, he would still have to win that first playoff game.

We also got $40 that the Vikings will have at least 2 picks when they play the Chargers.

What do you guys think of my bets this year?
lol, i'd consider doubling the bets to $200. i'd take my chances with the chargers over the vikings, without a doubt.

maybe you guys can bet on adrian peterson winning the rookie of the year...

or you can also bet on how many passing yards tarvaris jackson will have...