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you wouldn't trade Blake and a first for Thomas?? We're not getting an impact player with that pick unless we miss the playoffs and get EXTREMELY lucky and get into the top 3 somehow. Thomas is a good player (far from great) that can back up both forward spots and be a great shot blocker/rebounder off the bench, which is something this team severely lacks (in addition to other things). I'm not the biggest fan of Thomas but clearly he would be better for this team than Blake and probably at least as good as Outlaw (but with more upside).

And who is saying a trade wins us a title this year? 30 teams could make trades and 29 of em aint winning the title. The goal is to improve your overall talent level and balance the roster out.

As far as Rudy, Bayless and Batum, I like em as much as anybody and they all bring something unique, but lets be honest, there are not enough minutes to go around for everybody. A consolidation is going to have to be made at some point. The key is knowing when to sell high. Good GMs tend to maximize their assetts in trade, bad ones sell low and reduce their teams to shambles.(Warriors).
trade steve blake for tyrus thomas and have him walk at the end of this year too. I think thomas has an expiring contract as well.

I guess I just don't see the point. Thomas wont help us win more games this year. and he shouldn't play over outlaw in the 2nd unit cause outlaw can create his own shot.

then who's mins does he take? Dante? hell naw... dante is gonna be leaps and bounds better then thomas. he needs to play.
 
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Au2shCkzrRb_MXonOkMwarm8vLYF?slug=mc-tradebuzz021310&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

The Boston Celtics discussed a possible trade for Caron Butler(notes) before the Washington Wizards decided to send him to Dallas. The Celtics also have inquired about the availability of Golden State Warriors guard Monta Ellis(notes), Sacramento Kings guard Kevin Martin(notes) and Philadelphia 76ers swingman Andre Iguodala(notes). None of the talks have become substantive.

The Celtics would likely include Ray Allen(notes) in any big deal, but have made it clear they want an upper-echelon young player in return, regardless of position.

The Celtics also reached out to the Phoenix Suns about Amar’e Stoudemire(notes), but don’t have the means to get a deal done.

The Portland Trail Blazers, Houston Rockets and Miami Heat were interested in acquiring center Brendan Haywood(notes) from the Wizards, but couldn’t put together an adequate offer before the Mavericks landed him.

The Blazers offered Steve Blake(notes), rookie Jeff Pendergraph(notes) and a first-round pick for Haywood. When Washington countered by asking for swingman Rudy Fernandez(notes), the Blazers declined. Blazers owner Paul Allen is a big fan of Fernandez.

Haywood turned down a four-year, $35 million contract extension from Washington last summer, but a source said the Mavericks hope to re-sign him after the season.

The Lakers have tried to move Luke Walton(notes) and Sasha Vujacic(notes) to shed some salary before Thursday’s trade deadline. One league source the Lakers have even had discussions with one of their Pacific Division rivals: the Blazers. The Blazers, the source said, seem more focused on landing a big man.
 
Jan 18, 2008
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As the Portland Trail Blazers make trade proposals around the league, one name keeps popping up: Steve Blake(notes).

This time, Blake has been offered with Travis Outlaw(notes) to the Los Angeles Clippers for center Marcus Camby(notes), a league source told Yahoo! Sports.

It’s also believed that the Blazers will add cash to the bid. All three players have expiring contracts, so it would likely take an additional ingredient – cash and or a second-round draft pick – to convince the Clippers to give up Camby for this package.

Camby, 35, is averaging 7.7 points and 12.1 rebounds for the Clippers.

Outlaw has been out since the preseason with a broken foot, and has just been cleared to return to practice. He could be ready to return to games within seven to 10 days. Some in the league believe that GM Kevin Pritchard wants to clear the way for his first-round draft pick, Jerryd Bayless(notes), to get more time in the backcourt with Andre Miller(notes), and that’s part of the reason for shopping Blake.

The Blazers have been searching for some inside help to deflect the blow of losing centers Greg Oden(notes) and Joel Przybilla(notes) to knee injuries.

The Clippers have been trying to attach guard Sebastian Telfair(notes) to any deal with Camby, but it’s highly improbable that Portland would take back Telfair, who started his career with the Blazers.
 
Jan 18, 2008
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Two struggling teams looked to each other for help on Monday.

The Los Angeles Clippers agreed to trade Marcus Camby to the Portland Trail Blazers for Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake, a source close to the situation told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

The 35-year-old Camby is second in the league in rebounding this season at 12.1 boards per game, to go along with 7.7 points. The Blazers have had a hole in the middle of their lineup since Gred Oden went down with a knee injury in December.

The 6-foot-9 Outlaw is averaging 9.9 points and 3.5 rebounds per game in his seventh season with Portland. Blake, a 6-3 guard, is putting up 7.6 points and 4.0 assists per game. He's coming off a 20-point, 12-assist game in a win over the Suns before the All-Star break.
 
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WTF???????????????????/

Los Angeles Clippers center Marcus Camby(notes) unknowingly attended his own farewell dinner on Monday night.

The Clippers are on the verge of completing a trade that will send Camby to the Portland Trail Blazers, league sources said, but the veteran center is not happy about the deal. Or the way he learned of it.

The proposed trade, which was first reported by Yahoo! Sports’ Adrian Wojnarowski, will send Camby to Portland in exchange for forward Travis Outlaw(notes), guard Steve Blake(notes) and cash.

In town in advance of their Tuesday game against the Trail Blazers, the Clippers were having a team dinner at Portland’s Ringside steakhouse Monday night when Camby received a call on his cell phone from Blazers general manager Kevin Pritchard. Pritchard informed Camby that he will likely be traded to Portland once the league finalizes the deal on Tuesday.

After taking the call, Camby immediately walked out of the restaurant. A source close to him says he is “very upset” about the trade. He had hoped to re-sign with the Clippers this summer.

“He likes the Clippers, he likes the organization, he likes L.A.,” the source said. “His wife is not happy in L.A. And he’s not one for change. He’s definitely not happy about this.”

Camby isn’t the only one angry.

Said one Clipper: “All the guys are upset because our best defensive player got traded basically for a backup point guard and money.”

Outlaw, 25, played in 11 games this season before breaking his left foot, and the Clippers are unsure when he’ll play again. Blake, 29, is averaging 7.6 points and four assists in 51 games.

The Blazers have been searching for some inside help to deflect the blow of losing centers Greg Oden(notes) and Joel Przybilla(notes). Some in the league also believe Pritchard wants to clear the way for Jerryd Bayless(notes) to get more time in the backcourt with Andre Miller(notes).

The Clippers, meanwhile, also have been shopping forward Al Thornton(notes), who was meeting with his agent Monday in Portland.

Camby, 35, is averaging seven points and 12 rebounds for the Clippers. He is making $9.1 million this season in the final year of his contract. Just last week, he told Yahoo! Sports he hoped the Clippers wouldn’t trade him.

“It feels good to be a wanted man, but I like it here,” Camby said.

Camby left the restaurant without most of his teammates getting a chance to tell him goodbye. He is not believed to have finished his meal.
 
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Thats a good thing for Batum, he will get more time, and you need him to play offense too, not only standing in the corner waiting for 3's
 
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Yeah I know, Im just saying he did good things when Outlaw was injuried, and so the trade is good for him so he will be able to continue that way.
 
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Good Read....

It appears as if Marcus Camby(notes) is on his way to Portland in exchange for Travis Outlaw(notes), Steve Blake(notes) and a goodly amount of cash considerations.

Camby, already, is aware of this. In what turned into the must-read/how-pathetic column of the year, Marc Spears and Adrian Wojnarowski detailed a scene that saw Camby storming out of a Portland-area restaurant, flustered and frustrated by the Clippers organization acting like the Clippers organization, hearing about the news from his agent well before the Clippers bothered to pick up the phone.

It makes no sense, of course, which is why it makes complete and total sense. For all the swaying toward orthodoxy that we've seen from L.A. over the last few years — signing outright free agents like Cuttino Mobley(notes), Baron Davis(notes) and Tim Thomas(notes), matching contract offers on their own free agents, staying somewhat competitive, making the playoffs, albeit all the way back when Donald Rumsfeld still had a public gig — the Clippers are still the Clippers. They're still a punchline at 11:42, no matter the host.

And this trade is pure Clippers madness, even before the news hit about the tactless way that Camby was informed.

Clippers GM and former Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy loves Camby. Digs him as a person, wanted nothing to do with tossing him off his day-to-day roster while coaching him. Camby was one of the few guys, probably the only guy, who got it. Listened and tried to execute offensively, settled down and worked things out defensively. Dunleavy appreciated the way Camby worked for him, and Camby thought it obvious that the guy that heaped such effusive praise upon him would keep him and his family in Orange County for the duration and beyond the expiration of his contract.

Despite a few accolades, Camby had a bad defensive rep upon becoming a Clipper last season. He blocked plenty of shots and hauled in the rebounds, but he could also be taken advantage of in screen-and-roll situations, on top of being loath to help on the perimeter, away from primo blocking territory.

For whatever reason, in his mid-30s and on a team that clearly cared less than any team in the NBA, Camby started roaming and protecting and hedging as he'd never done before. He was a complete defender, which meant, with his gifts, he was a dominant defender. And Dunleavy appreciated this, and wanted no part in parting with "this."

Coach Dunleavy did, at least. A few weeks ago, "coach Dunleavy" stepped aside to focus on acting as "GM Dunleavy," cutting out one of his gigs in order to save the other. And the result here is a terrible basketball trade that makes absolutely no sense in any other way beyond the ways that help Donald Sterling save money, which in turn (he hopes) will allow Dunleavy to save his job.

It's a lazy trade. The trade deadline isn't until Thursday, and the going rate for a 7-footer who can dominate on one end and hold his own on the other (to say nothing of his rather helpful expiring contract) should be through the roof. Camby should be among the most sought-after assets in this market, despite the paucity of buyers, and yet the Clippers are about to send him to Portland for something they'd already get even if Camby stuck around past the trade deadline — contracts that expire in June. And $3 million.

So, the cash is the difference. And the initial reaction, the glass half-full reaction, is to tell yourself that Dunleavy was doing this as a favor to Camby. Sending him to a team that needs him, working in front of a fan base that tends to win over even the most harshest of hearts, spinning its way toward the postseason despite myriad injuries. This was done with Camby's blessing, logic tells you, because why else would they switch around the deck chairs, taking on the same amount of expiring cash for Travis Outlaw (who might not play again this year) and Steve Blake?

And then you learn that Camby wanted absolutely nothing to do with being moved to Portland, or anywhere else. And then you read that the deal went down with the Clippers in Portland, and you wonder if Dunleavy was even allowed to make long-distance calls. Those things cost money, you know. And, no, the deal isn't official yet; but Camby's agent had to drop the news first, before Woj and Marc broke the story, before Marcus' text inbox started filling up, and Marcus isn't happy. And then Spears drops the line of the year:

"He is not believed to have finished his meal."

I'm sure Sterling was sure to pick up a doggy bag. After all, throw it in a pot, add some broth, a potato, and, baby, you got a stew going.

For the Blazers? This is huge. I wouldn't trust Juwan Howard(notes) to guard the front of the rim as a power forward in 1997, much less as a center in 2010. Nothing against the man's effort level. Howard's worked his tail off, but he's not going to help a team that was rather middling defensively last year and the year before without Greg Oden(notes). And, not sure you've heard, but the Blazers are without Greg Oden right now.

If Camby's effort level is on high — and considering his history and the trade's circumstances, this is far from a given — the Blazers could really make a run here. Marcus isn't going to move Andrew Bynum(notes) out of position or shove Nene out of the paint, but he does help. He will change shots and cover and he's the absolute best tonic (best deadline-available, tonic) I can think of for a team that badly needs help defending the paint. The Blazers had the best 1-2 center punch in the NBA heading into this season and lost both. A sickening blow, and the addition of a do-everything 7-footer with an expiring deal comes off as a needed bit of good luck.

The Clippers? There's no point to this deal. Basketball-wise, at least.

We knew Camby was gone as soon as Dunleavy retired to the front office. But for this? No prospects, no draft picks, the same amount of expiring money that Camby was going to provide had he stayed on? Just a little cash thrown Sterling's way? It's pathetic. It's so damn Clipper-y. I hate that. You should, too.

And it's only Dunleavy looking to save his gig. Essentially trading for his potential 2010-11 salary from Portland owner Paul Allen and dropping it in Sterling's lap. So stupefyingly transparent, something that could only happen in this league, and to this team.

The Blazers need a big man, and Mike Dunleavy needs to sell out. All over save the shouting. And the steak.