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May 8, 2002
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nefar559 said:


LOOK from my European friends, from my instructors, i've never
heard anybody say that the collape of USSR was becuase of hte
CIA. NEVER, u'r the first one to say this...look u'r answers
so far, have not impress me...sometimes i think u making shit
up...just to hold up to u'r historys views.
ok since you obviously wont even consider my views (which by the way i didnt pull out of thin air as you have suggested) telll me what you think was thw collapse of the USSR
 
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nefar559 said:


lol ahh man this is getting ridiculous
thats what you said .

i said he did this wrong and this right. then you said oh thats "Rightwing jargon" about the things he did that was good.

so i shold take it that you believe he did nothing good right???
 
Jul 7, 2002
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Mcleanhatch said:


ok since you obviously wont even consider my views (which by the way i didnt pull out of thin air as you have suggested) telll me what you think was thw collapse of the USSR
i've already mention them above, from what i've was told.

keep in mind that people, intellectouls, still argue over this.

the CIA...lol
 
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nefar559 said:


i've already mention them above, from what i've was told.

keep in mind that people, intellectouls, still argue over this.

the CIA...lol
and in all actuallity we can go on for days about the CIA because it is a top secret organization who only lets you things that it wants you to know.
so in reality noone knows one can onky imagine.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:

thats what you said .

i said he did this wrong and this right. then you said oh thats "Rightwing jargon" about the things he did that was good.

so i shold take it that you believe he did nothing good right???
look man, u can't take my replies, and pull them to the far left.
there more views that just 2 extremies sides....i'm just
tell you how i read u'r answers. are they not just rightwing
jargon?
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


and in all actuallity we can go on for days about the CIA because it is a top secret organization who only lets you things that it wants you to know.
so in reality noone knows one can onky imagine.
yea i know, they let us know that IRAQ wasn't a threat, and
yet the bush administration went off on them hard....fucken
bush...this foo serious wants to control the second largest oil
rich country
 
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nefar559 said:


look man, u can't take my replies, and pull them to the far left.
there more views that just 2 extremies sides
extreme sides weather it be from the left or right for the most part are not good.

and i am not pulling them to the far left. for the most part they are to the far left. u do make some good points though. those are the ones i usually dont respond to.
 
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nefar559 said:


yea i know, they let us know that IRAQ wasn't a threat, and
yet the bush administration went off on them hard....fucken
bush...this foo serious wants to control the second largest oil
rich country
thats what i mean by its hard to read them (CIA) cause they might tell us somethng yet tell bush someting else.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Mcleanhatch said:
thats not a right, right now. as of today its illegal by the federal government.

that comes along with being in this country its gotta be defended. it comes along with all the other benefits. are you planning on going to college.
Thank you for making my own points for me. Earlier you wanted me to state examples my own moral laws. I wrote them...and you say, "its not a right if its illegal by the federal government". Thats exactly the point I was making. Those beliefs I hold affect ME personally and do no harm to anyone else. But the government sticks their nose into MY life, and says, "no, this is wrong...you cant do that". Thats the same as the government telling me what I can and cant eat. And no, driving while high on marijuana is NOT the same as driving drunk. You havent seen many drunk drivers if you really believe that. Ive never seen a person so much as hit a speed bump while high off weed....Ive seen people drive up onto walkways because they were drunk. And even if a person high off weed WAS a danger on the road...why not just keep it as a DUI, and make weed legal otherwise, like alcohol?
 
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YoungVicious said:
Those beliefs I hold affect ME personally and do no harm to anyone else
maybe u dint do harm to any1 else, but not all people react the same. alote of others could reek havok


YoungVicious said:
Thats the same as the government telling me what I can and cant eat
thats stretching a bit


YoungVicious said:
make weed legal
lol. i hope not otherwise some otherwise law-biding citizens could lose a MAJOR source of income
 
Apr 26, 2002
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Dude go back to the 1930's with your reefer madness views...people would "wreak havoc" from smokin weed? yeah right, I think you got weed mixed up with angel dust/PCP...as a matter of fact, if weed was legalized you wouldnt have people getting shot over pounds like you do now.
 
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Al-Kaholik said:
as a matter of fact, if weed was legalized you wouldnt have people getting shot over pounds like you do now.
people who would do that are worthless people who only think about coming up quickly and not worry about the long run. shit i wouldnt do that shit for a ton of weed. its bad business period.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
maybe u dint do harm to any1 else, but not all people react the same. alote of others could reek havok
Yea, cuz we all know how those Hempfests always end up in violent eruptions. :rolleyes: C'mon now...weed makes people LESS violent and way more calm. There would be no havok.

But I actually dont think weed should be legalized. Because, like you said, a major source of income would be lost for people who need it...and they'd probably turn to more dangerous shit like selling crack. Plus, the market would probably get flooded with factory produced bullshit...making it harder to get quality weed. I think they should just eliminate jail time for marijuana offenses. They should just confiscate personal stashes and give fines for possession with intent to sell, and leave it at that. That way it would still be illegal, so the market would probably stay pretty much the same...but the actual consequences wouldnt be all fucked up like they are now.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:

I wounder what decisions you would make if you lived in a world a lot worse then what you are used to.
i wouldnt steal from a person who might be pissed off enough to kill my ass over some bullshit skrill. thats just plain stupid.
but i do see what u mean by nothing to lose
 
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YoungVicious said:
I think they should just eliminate jail time for marijuana offenses. They should just confiscate personal stashes and give fines for possession with intent to sell, and leave it at that. That way it would still be illegal, so the market would probably stay pretty much the same...but the actual consequences wouldnt be all fucked up like they are now.
if they did that then your rest assured that big companies will take over because they will drive up the fines so high no one else will be able to pay them ( sorta like what walmart does to local stores). i would say give fines to users and give them the option to pay off the fines with community service. but anybody with possession of large amounts (like maybe say 100+ pounds of commercial or 20+ pounds of sticky should be dealt with the same as people with the intent to sell or distribute or conspiracy to do so should be dealt with according to law the way it stands now.
 
Jul 6, 2002
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The whole world id going to be social-communist ran government for all humans. Wiat untilthe nuclear winter begins and we all have to live and continue to condut our lives as if electronical transactions never ceaced in a vicious cycle where we all will be slaves. I SHALL NOT RECEIVE THE MARK ON MY OWN FREE WILL I will resort to drastic measures if necessary (you know, say if I were pushed into a corner and had the decision to conform withe demands of my oppressor or confront my enemy no holds barred..)
This whole country is going through a phase whrere we will be slaves to our government and greed. Has anyone on here heard of the Total Awereness Information Sytem that is part of our National Defense Dept?