the police state grows...

[Mezzano]

we already got the most prison inmates of any country in the world, including countries like China and India that have 5 times more people than us. We are one of something like 7 countries in the world that use the death penalty against minors, and one of a handful of countries that use it at all. We spend more money in california on prisons than higher education.

But now a whole lot more things are happening, yall should make sure you're on top of what's going on. I heard a law professor speak last week and he was saying that the law is rapidly changing with all these new police state tactics. "If you aint ready, you better get ready" - dead prez

Here are a couple articles on diff. aspects of what's going on:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20021118/ts_nm/attack_surveillance_dc_5 (I posted this one along with another one)

http://www.progressive.org/webex/mcwatch.html

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/nov2002/home-n18_prn.shtml

http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20021125&s=mcneil

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Man, thats some fucked up shit. Like I've been sayin, shits gonna get real fucked up real fast.

 

[Mcleanhatch]

if your a law biding citizen than it shouldnt affect you guys right??????

 

[Snubnoze]

It don't take a genious to look into the history and see that being proven guilty don't really matter when a president is persuing his agenda for war....

 

[Mcleanhatch]

It don't take a genious to look into the history and see that being proven guilty don't really matter when a president is persuing his agenda for war....

????????????????

 

[nefar559]

if your a law biding citizen than it shouldnt affect you guys right??????

damn i swear..... u always come up with these rightwing answers
i'm getting fed up!...lol

don't u think something is wrong?

"China and India that have 5 times more people than us"

sad thing is that 3/4 of the prison population is a minority.
1/2 are blacks...and the prison pop, doubles since the 70s, becuase of this war on drugs.

 

[Mcleanhatch]

and the prison pop, doubles since the 70s, becuase of this war on drugs.

the 60's and the 70's isnt that the time when between 1964-1980 the nation was controlled by liberals (with the exception of 72-76 NIXON). when "liberalism" was at its highest , when liberal minded people thought it was good to use pot, coke, pcp, and other mind altering drugs. wasnt it all these liberal views that sparked the nation into going on a drug binge that to this day hasnt stopped, which in turn started "the war on drugs"

 

[nefar559]

the 60's and the 70's isnt that the time when between 1964-1980 the nation was controlled by liberals (with the exception of 72-76 NIXON). when "liberalism" was at its highest , when liberal minded people thought it was good to use pot, coke, pcp, and other mind altering drugs. wasnt it all these liberal views that sparked the nation into going on a drug binge that to this day hasnt stopped, which in turn started "the war on drugs"

you mean hippies...to u there seems to be only 2 sides, liberal
and conservative.

so whats u'r point?...it was good that people at that time
period were liberal, a lot of people were questioning the
govern't, civil rights, war, etc...any conserative back then
would have seem racist and prolly would have been prejudice
on any views.

why u trying to blame liberal for eveything?
what has a conseravtive ever done good in history? nothing.
it was liberals, and radicals that brought about change.
civil rights, women's rights, worker's rights, just to name a few.

 

[Al-Kaholik]

Wasn't it Reagan that was president when coke really blew up? IE the mid-80's....back when hippies were doing drugs there wasn't as much violence connected to them as there was in the 80's when drugs and guns went hand in hand.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

damn i swear..... u always come up with these rightwing answers. i'm getting fed up!...lol don't u think something is wrong?

Yup. I dont have ANY respect for Mcleanhatch!!!! People like that are the reason this country/world is so fucked up. Real shit.

 

[Fawg]

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~Fawg

 

[nefar559]

Wasn't it Reagan that was president when coke really blew up? IE the mid-80's....back when hippies were doing drugs there wasn't as much violence connected to them as there was in the 80's when drugs and guns went hand in hand.

yea i think u'r right mid 80s.

 

[YoungVicious]

if your a law biding citizen than it shouldnt affect you guys right??????

Nope, I aint a law abiding citizen and I admit the shit freely. I live by my own MORAL laws. I think its sad to base the way you live around manmade laws created by a government that tries to play God. But for some reason, theres this idea that if you arent a law abiding citizen, youre a bad person. Such a shame how so many people can be brainwashed by a government.

 

[YoungVicious]

the 60's and the 70's isnt that the time when between 1964-1980 the nation was controlled by liberals (with the exception of 72-76 NIXON). when "liberalism" was at its highest , when liberal minded people thought it was good to use pot, coke, pcp, and other mind altering drugs. wasnt it all these liberal views that sparked the nation into going on a drug binge that to this day hasnt stopped, which in turn started "the war on drugs"

LOL, that is such bullshit its funny. The War On Drugs wasn't caused by the drug users. It was caused by a government that wants to impose its own ideas of what morals are on the citizens of a supposedly free country. Basically, we are experiencing this drug war because the government thinks it knows how people should live their lives better than the people themselves do.

 

[Mcleanhatch]

LOL, that is such bullshit its funny. The War On Drugs wasn't caused by the drug users. It was caused by a government that wants to impose its own ideas of what morals are on the citizens of a supposedly free country. Basically, we are experiencing this drug war because the government thinks it knows how people should live their lives better than the people themselves do.

so is it safe to say then that you think drugs such be legal and free to use by who ever wants to use them with no repercussions??

and by the way im against the war on drugs the way the it is bieng run now.

 

[Mcleanhatch]

I live by my own MORAL laws. I think its sad to base the way you live around manmade laws created by a government that tries to play God.

give us an example of your own moral laws.

and which manmade law here in this country do you think are created by a government that tries to play God as you so put it?

 

[Mcleanhatch]

Wasn't it Reagan that was president when coke really blew up? IE the mid-80's

ya but it was also jimmy carter so next time give both guys names
jimmy carter-------->1976-1980
ronald reagan ----->1980-1988

 

[Mcleanhatch]

to u there seems to be only 2 sides, liberal
and conservative.

what has a conseravtive ever done good in history? nothing.

well let me start off

Ronald Reagan--- won and ended the cold war with then SUPERPOWER the USSR, and at the same time made us the only SUPERPOWER in the world.

Goerge Bush Sr.--- brilliantly liberated Kuwait when they were invaded by Iraq.

Richard Nixon--- brought an end to the Vietnam war.

Dwight Eisenhower--- was successful in Korea

and there is plenty more

 

[Mcleanhatch]

why u trying to blame liberal for eveything?

i dont blame them for everything. i believe they got a good stance on a womens right to choose.
presdents truman and kennedy along with president lincoln where very good presidents with very strong morals and great political views. i mean damn even Clinton was a damn good president for about the first 5 years (my stupid ass even voted for him twice) but then shit hit the fan and the only reason his ass didnt get impeached is because the Rep. or conseratives didnt want to tear the country apart.

so how can you say i i blame liberal for everything.

i will repeat i am a MODERATE CONSERVATIVE which means i side with both sides often but i tend to believe more from the right or center than the left especially the far left

 

[Mcleanhatch]

IE the mid-80's....back when hippies were doing drugs there wasn't as much violence connected to them as there was in the 80's when drugs and guns went hand in hand.

ok thats simple to answer. theres a big difference between POT and COCAINE and HEROIN.