THE OFFICIAL OAKLAND RAIDERS 2009 OFFSEASON THREAD

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Meta4iCAL

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ellis is a good pick up, and now im hearing that brandon marshall wants out and the raiders are interested. dont think it would ever happen denver trading within there own division but i hope it does.
wow... really?

with shanahan def wouldn't happen... still kinda ehhh since it's within the division... but who knows... better chance with McDaniels as the coach

only problem with Marshall is his character and off the field issues.... we don't need a guy getting suspended for doin stupid shit all the time... BUT he is dope ass receiver... so I'd take him if we had the chance... probably won't happen though
 
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Don't care how good Marshall is dude is a fuck up how many runins with the law has this cat had sooner or later he going to do something really dumb and fuck up his career. Oakland is not any shape to take in a trouble maker bring a media circus to a team trying to get bottom of the afc and back to the playoffs. No matter how talented he may be, better off working with all the young guys we have and build or WR core from there. Off field issues quickly become on field ones so let him go be somebody else's problem. But not going to be a issue cuz denver not going to trade in there division anyhow.
 
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Could Broncos’ Marshall end up in Oakland?
By Brad Wilbricht | Wednesday, June 17, 2009 | ( 4 )



While wide receivers such as Anquan Boldin and Plaxico Burress have previously been linked to the Oakland Raiders this offseason, rumors regarding the latest disgruntled wideout have already begun to surface. Brandon Marshall has requested a trade from the Denver Broncos, so would the Raiders be interested?

While Marshall has developed into one of the most productive receivers in the NFL, he’s been involved in several off-field issues during his short career. Marshall has been caught up in assault charges, including several instances of domestic violence. In addition, he’s been cited for driving under the influence and most recently disorderly conduct this past March.

Despite his run-ins with the law, there’s no denying Marshall’s talent on the field. After being sparsely used as a rookie, Marshall has racked up 206 catches during the past two seasons. He’s compiled 2,590 receiving yards during the span along with 13 touchdown grabs. Marshall’s astronomical rise to one of the top receivers in the game has more than likely contributed toward his immaturity off the field.

Trouble seems to follow Marshall and that’s a valid reason for Al Davis and company to be leery about bringing him to the Bay Area. The Raiders deploy a young group of receivers and Marshall’s influence may prove detrimental to their development. Oakland has done an admirable job of assembling talent on the perimeter and an acquisition of this nature would overshadow everything the team has accomplished.

If Marshall did somehow end up with the Raiders, he would be reunited with former teammate Javon Walker. Marshall and Walker have a history together dating back to their days in Denver. However, Oakland has already experienced negative results since signing Walker to a lucrative contract as he’s proved to be a distraction off the field and his production has been extremely limited.

Also working against this scenario is the potential asking price the Broncos will be wanting in return for the Pro Bowl wideout. Running back Justin Fargas may be the most dispensable player on the Raiders’ roster, but Denver is already loaded in the backfield. Defensive end Derrick Burgess could be on the trading block and may interest the Broncos if talks begin between the two AFC West rivals.

Sure, Marshall would instantly upgrade Oakland’s receiving corps; at this point, though, the negatives outweigh the positives. Like it or not, the fate of the Raiders’ passing game lies in the hands of quarterback JaMarcus Russell, Darrius Heyward-Bey and a handful of other young receivers.
 

Tony

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I'd take Marshall over Plaxico but both have off of the field issues. I can't see the Broncos trading Marshall to a division rival like the Raiders. I think the Raiders would be the last team the Broncos would trade Marshall to.... maybe the Bears are interested... that would be my guess.
 
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during the season last year and this off season we got rid of guys like marshall with bad attitudes (ex. deangello hall, gibril wilson and even curry to an extent). why would the raiders want to now bring a guy in like that.
 
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without a doubt.. Plaxico! that's only if him shooting himself in the leg won't affect his play on the field..
thats what i was thinking and by shooting himself he fucked the giants at possibly winning another ring. chaz schilens is slowly becoming 1 of my favs im expecting big thangs from him this year might even be a sleeper in fantasy football.
 
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OTA news and notes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009 at 1:08 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News and notes from the last Raiders’ OTA session available to the media:


– The acquisition of Greg Ellis and the fate of defensive end Derrick Burgess are unrelated, coach Tom Cable said. But it’s worth noting Ellis lined up at Burgess’ left end spot with the first team on his second day as a Raider.

“It came about pretty quick last week, and once it got in motion, I think this was the place he wanted to be, and obviously, what we’re doing defensively, it fits him,” Cable said. “He started out as a 4-3 end and became an outside backer in a 3-4 and now he’s in a 4-3. It makes our team better. I said from the very beginning we’d try to do that, when possible, when it presented itself, so it’s a good deal for us.”

Can Ellis be an an every down player?

“It think he can be. You look a the film and he’s been doing that, albeit in a different position, this is a guy you would rely on to come in and compete to be a starter and all that,” Cable said. “He’s got so much left in terms of where he’s at physically, in terms of his body, his production, so again, just a positive for our team.

– Exactly what Ellis thinks about joining the Raiders isn’t clear. Several media members were hoping to ask quesitons, but instead he was walked off the field by a member of the club’s media relations staff and he never returned.

Whether Ellis didn’t feel like talking or the team didn’t want him to talk isn’t known. No explanation was given. My recollection of Ellis when the Cowboys trained at San Jose State during a week between a Raiders and 49ers game was that he was an extremely personable and agreeable interview subject.

– Ellis practiced with the Raiders for the first time Tuesday, but it wasn’t even mentioned by the club’s Twitter account, which did update fans on tryouts for the Junior Raiderettes.

– The seeds of Burgess’ discontent with the Raiders began when former personnel exec Mike Lombardi was looking in to a contract extension for the Pro Bowl defensive end. When Lombardi was fired, any chance for a deal was lost.

Lombardi assessed the Burgess situation as part of this National Football Post column, although he didn’t write about how it all started.

– Near the end of practice a fight broke out between Tyvon Branch and a lineman, believed to be Cooper Carlisle, and it took a scrum of players to separate them. Cable met with the team after the three horns signifying the end of practice and his first line had the team laughing.

When the Raiders came off the field, Branch was talking with defensive coordiantor John Marshall.

– Other than Ellis at left end, the Raiders finished the public portion of their last OTA much the way they have the past few weeks. No real surprises in among the starters. Khalif Barnes did get some work with the first team at left tackle, although not as much as Mario Henderson.

– Cable said the undrafted free agents which have shown the most this offseason are wide receiver Nick Miller and safety Jerome Boyd, a converted linebacker from Oregon.

– No truly horrible throws from Russell Wednesday, but nothing of note down the field, either, even though there was little in the way of red zone drills. Russell said afterward the plan is to get the receivers together for a gathering at an undisclosed location to work on their timing.

“We’re going to get the receivers and tight ends a week away from everything, just go along by ourselves and accomplish something that would make us a lot better during the year,” Russell said. Just work on our own, with nobody out there but us, get ready for camp, get ready for a new year.”

Cable was glad to hear it.

“I think it’s a big step. It’s kind of what we’ve been talking about all along, and to hear about that is obviously a positive from a coaches’ standpoint,” Cable said. “It will be good to hear how that goes and what his plan is.”

Sounds great, but we’ll probably never know which receivers show up, which ones are healthy enough to show up, and which ones are advised by their agents or the union to not show up.

– With Nnamdi Asomugha and Chris Johnson not attending, John Bowie got in work as a starting cornerback opposite Stanford Routt and got worked over by most every receiver who lined up against him.

– Rookie free agent wide receiver Shawn Bayes made the catch of the day with a dive inside the 5-yard line on a medium-depth throw from Garcia during a team drill. Bayes had the biggest downfield catch as well, a 30-yarder from Garcia against Jason Horton.

(It was enough to make you wonder if Cable meant to say Bayes, No. 87, as a standout, as opposed to Miller, who wears No. 89. Miller also caught a few passes).

– During a two-minute drill in a team session starting at the 20-yard line, Russell looked in the direction of Zach Miller four staright times, not getting a first down, and taking what the coaches ruled a sack on one play.

– In another drive which started at the 20, Russell underthrew a long lob to Johnnie Lee Higgins, with Bowie holding up in coverage, but beat a Thomas Howard blitz with a quick out to Miller for a first down on third-and-3 and converted a third-and-10 with a quick pass to his right to tight end Tony Stewart.

The drive eventually stalled when Russell stepped up on fourth-and-3 threw incomplete with two defenders closer than any Oakland receiver.

– Heyward-Bey and Mitchell weren’t the only rookies who came off the field. Louis Murphy hopped off the field on one play, with Cable saying afterward it was because of a cramp.

Regarding Heyward-Bey’s injury, Cable said, “As you saw, Heyward-Bey is sore. We don’t have any idea what that means because we haven’t had a chance to go look at him yet.”

Hard to know whether the hamstring injury is a fluke or something to be concerned about long-term. Heyward-Bey was regarded as a durable receiver at Maryland.

– Asked whether Mitchell’s absence and hamstring injury sets him back, Cable said, “It does. You can’t do anything about the rules. They are what they are. You have to abide by them so we have some work, some catch-up to do when we get to camp with him, certainly.”

– Perhaps not coincidentally, the Raiders defensive front refrained from jumping offsides with Tommy Kelly absent.

– Raiders players will largely be on their own from now until training camp begins. The reporting date is July 29. Players will be given things to work on and ostensibly a prescribed reporting weight.
 
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thats what i was thinking and by shooting himself he fucked the giants at possibly winning another ring. chaz schilens is slowly becoming 1 of my favs im expecting big thangs from him this year might even be a sleeper in fantasy football.
Chad is a beast.. has the size and ability to play in this league.. and he showed it whenever he got playing time.. Higgins also showed glimpses of what he can do!! Now if DHB and Murphy can get it together as well the future looks bright for the RAIDER NATION!
 
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OTA news and notes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009 at 1:08 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News and notes from the last Raiders’ OTA session available to the media:

– No truly horrible throws from Russell Wednesday, but nothing of note down the field, either, even though there was little in the way of red zone drills. Russell said afterward the plan is to get the receivers together for a gathering at an undisclosed location to work on their timing.

“We’re going to get the receivers and tight ends a week away from everything, just go along by ourselves and accomplish something that would make us a lot better during the year,” Russell said. Just work on our own, with nobody out there but us, get ready for camp, get ready for a new year.”

Sounds like Russell is steppin up his leadership skills fnallly!
 
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OTA news and notes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009 at 1:08 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News and notes from the last Raiders’ OTA session available to the media:

– No truly horrible throws from Russell Wednesday, but nothing of note down the field, either, even though there was little in the way of red zone drills. Russell said afterward the plan is to get the receivers together for a gathering at an undisclosed location to work on their timing.

“We’re going to get the receivers and tight ends a week away from everything, just go along by ourselves and accomplish something that would make us a lot better during the year,” Russell said. Just work on our own, with nobody out there but us, get ready for camp, get ready for a new year.”

Sounds like Russell is steppin up his leadership skills fnallly!
Yeah I was happy to hear that...hopefully it pays off