The Official 2012 SF Giants Regular Season Thread
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OK, Giants fans, maybe you’re aware, but the rest of the nation is dumping on you for stuffing the ballot box and putting Pablo Sandoval in an All-Star Game starter. One sample comment I read on an ESPN blog about All-Star “misses,” from a poster who blew his cover of neutrality with his handle, David Wright2012MVP:
”Giant Fans, you guys are officially the worst, dumbest, and biggest embarrassment of fans of any sport in the world.”
Funny thing, I sensed from reading our Giants Extra blog that Giants fans actually feel a little bit of guilt over this. Word of advice: Don’t. It’s the flippin’ All-Star Game. It’s just a freak show anyway. Deserving guys don’t get in. Undeserving guys do. It’s been happening since 1933. They could have 100 players on each roster and there’d still be crying about some injustice. It provides copy for think-thank nerd sportswriters (I could name names, but the list would be far too long).
Bottom line, it’s no big whoop either way. Look, Pablo out and out stole the spot. We all know it. But it’s not like Wright didn’t make the team, unlike in 2009. That year, Wright hit .324 with five homers and 44 RBIs in the first half and was voted as the NL starting third baseman in a landslide. No, those weren’t bad numbers. But Pablo? He hit .330 with 15 bombs and 55 RBI in the first half and Charlie Manuel, in his infinite wisdom, didn’t even pick Sandoval for a reserve spot. So to my way of thinking, this is just a case of what goes around comes around. If Wright is bitching about this, someone should throw the ’09 scenario at him and ask him if he’d rather just stay home like Pablo did. Wright’s a stand-up guy so he’s probably fine with it, but Mets fans? Probably not. Who cares?
What’s more, Sandoval was having an All-Star caliber year in 2011 when he broke the hamate in his right hand. So he was due for a good roll of the dice.
As for Giants fans, they have no reason whatsoever to feel guilty … about Pablo, anyway. It’s a popularity contest, always has been, always will be. Feel proud that you got Melky Cabrera in there, and Buster, with an all-time record vote for an NL player. It says something really swell about Giants fans, that they are passionate to the point of unreasonable pursuits.
Get out of here with the whole justice thing. It’s the All-Star Game. Ten minutes after the game is over, maybe sooner, all the phony outrage will have been forgotten.
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Fan passion notwithstanding, everybody was getting a big kick out of the vote for Freddy Sanchez, who wound up fourth in the second base balloting with 2.289 million votes. Even Ryan Theriot, the man who is manning Sanchez’s spot most ably at the moment, thought it was pretty hilarious. Sanchez himself must have been dumbfounded.
Sanchez nearly got more votes than Rickie and Jemile Weeks put together.
But there was a lot of stuff like that. As it turned out, Brandon Belt got more votes in the NL than Albert Pujols got in the AL. In fact, he got 1.5 million more. Brandon Crawford got more than Troy Tulowitzki, Jimmy Rollins and Jose Reyes, and Crawford could only wish he had an incentive clause that paid him an average of what those three guys are making just for beating them out.
Aubrey Huff, meanwhile, got 400,000 more votes than Ichiro Suzuki and 900,000 more than the A’s Josh Reddick, who really deserved a spot in the game as a reserve.
lol @ people calling Giants fans bandwagoners, yet we shit on everybody wiht the votes.
”Giant Fans, you guys are officially the worst, dumbest, and biggest embarrassment of fans of any sport in the world.”
Funny thing, I sensed from reading our Giants Extra blog that Giants fans actually feel a little bit of guilt over this. Word of advice: Don’t. It’s the flippin’ All-Star Game. It’s just a freak show anyway. Deserving guys don’t get in. Undeserving guys do. It’s been happening since 1933. They could have 100 players on each roster and there’d still be crying about some injustice. It provides copy for think-thank nerd sportswriters (I could name names, but the list would be far too long).
Bottom line, it’s no big whoop either way. Look, Pablo out and out stole the spot. We all know it. But it’s not like Wright didn’t make the team, unlike in 2009. That year, Wright hit .324 with five homers and 44 RBIs in the first half and was voted as the NL starting third baseman in a landslide. No, those weren’t bad numbers. But Pablo? He hit .330 with 15 bombs and 55 RBI in the first half and Charlie Manuel, in his infinite wisdom, didn’t even pick Sandoval for a reserve spot. So to my way of thinking, this is just a case of what goes around comes around. If Wright is bitching about this, someone should throw the ’09 scenario at him and ask him if he’d rather just stay home like Pablo did. Wright’s a stand-up guy so he’s probably fine with it, but Mets fans? Probably not. Who cares?
What’s more, Sandoval was having an All-Star caliber year in 2011 when he broke the hamate in his right hand. So he was due for a good roll of the dice.
As for Giants fans, they have no reason whatsoever to feel guilty … about Pablo, anyway. It’s a popularity contest, always has been, always will be. Feel proud that you got Melky Cabrera in there, and Buster, with an all-time record vote for an NL player. It says something really swell about Giants fans, that they are passionate to the point of unreasonable pursuits.
Get out of here with the whole justice thing. It’s the All-Star Game. Ten minutes after the game is over, maybe sooner, all the phony outrage will have been forgotten.
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Fan passion notwithstanding, everybody was getting a big kick out of the vote for Freddy Sanchez, who wound up fourth in the second base balloting with 2.289 million votes. Even Ryan Theriot, the man who is manning Sanchez’s spot most ably at the moment, thought it was pretty hilarious. Sanchez himself must have been dumbfounded.
Sanchez nearly got more votes than Rickie and Jemile Weeks put together.
But there was a lot of stuff like that. As it turned out, Brandon Belt got more votes in the NL than Albert Pujols got in the AL. In fact, he got 1.5 million more. Brandon Crawford got more than Troy Tulowitzki, Jimmy Rollins and Jose Reyes, and Crawford could only wish he had an incentive clause that paid him an average of what those three guys are making just for beating them out.
Aubrey Huff, meanwhile, got 400,000 more votes than Ichiro Suzuki and 900,000 more than the A’s Josh Reddick, who really deserved a spot in the game as a reserve.
lol @ people calling Giants fans bandwagoners, yet we shit on everybody wiht the votes.
Traditiinally lincecum gets lit up in hot ass weather, madbum was makin some good pitches but seriously nats can fuckin swing the bat.. It also helps that they play in a fuckin bandbox.. Those balls they hit for homeruns would have barely hit the wall of triples alley, nats have a live ballpark.. We need to salvage one win today cuz pittsburg aint gonna b a cakewalk either
Missing Dodgers fan's body found in Bay
The body of Victor Murillo, the 27-year-old corrections officer from Woodland who went missing after the Giants-Dodgers game last Monday, was found in the San Francisco Bay Wednesday and identified by the San Francisco Medical Examiner.
The body was removed from the Bay after a jogger spotted it in the water near the foot of Howard Street shortly before 8 a.m. on Wednesday.
Murillo was last seen with his friend standing near Piers 30-32 outside AT&T Park after the Giants' 8-0 win over the Dodgers on June 25. His friend said he was distracted writing a text message and when he looked back up, Murillo had vanished.
San Francisco's Police and Fire Departments, as well as the Coast Guard, began searching for the man Monday night after his friend reported him missing, but the unsuccessful search was called off on Tuesday.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/07/04/12/...ound-/landing.html?blockID=735494&feedID=2796
The body of Victor Murillo, the 27-year-old corrections officer from Woodland who went missing after the Giants-Dodgers game last Monday, was found in the San Francisco Bay Wednesday and identified by the San Francisco Medical Examiner.
The body was removed from the Bay after a jogger spotted it in the water near the foot of Howard Street shortly before 8 a.m. on Wednesday.
Murillo was last seen with his friend standing near Piers 30-32 outside AT&T Park after the Giants' 8-0 win over the Dodgers on June 25. His friend said he was distracted writing a text message and when he looked back up, Murillo had vanished.
San Francisco's Police and Fire Departments, as well as the Coast Guard, began searching for the man Monday night after his friend reported him missing, but the unsuccessful search was called off on Tuesday.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/07/04/12/...ound-/landing.html?blockID=735494&feedID=2796
Back surgery for Freddy Sanchez, Giants career likely over
WASHINGTON -- Second baseman Freddy Sanchez had surgery Thursday to remove a portion of a disc in his lower back, ending any chance of returning this season and likely bringing an abrupt conclusion to his career as a Giant.
The Giants medical staff said Sanchez's micro discectomy, which was performed by spinal specialist Dr. Robert Watkins, went as anticipated.
"Well, he's out for the year," Giants manager Bruce Bochy said. "It's been a long road for Freddy. I know he's disappointed. He certainly played a critical role in our success in 2010. He helped us win a World Series."
Sanchez signed a $6 million extension last year; he will be a free agent after this season. Bochy indicated there could be some interest in re-signing Sanchez in some form or another, although the back injury combined with shoulder problems makes that possibility very, very hazy.
"You don't know what happens when the season's over," Bochy said. "We still remain optimistic, but this is a definite that we won't have him all year."
Sanchez, 34, hasn't played since June 10 of last season when he went 1-for-2 with a single. The former batting champion dislocated his shoulder while diving for a ground ball up the middle. He tried to rehab the shoulder injury for two months before undergoing surgery to trim his damaged labrum and tighten the capsule.
Although Sanchez pledged to be ready by opening day, he wasn't able to stay on a throwing schedule in spring training and couldn't make throws across his body to turn double plays. Sanchez had tried moving to third base in late April, but his back began bothering him and made it impossible to return to baseball activities.
The Giants pieced together second base for most of April with Emmanuel Burriss and Ryan Theriot, who struggled to play through an elbow injury. But after a stint on the DL allowed Theriot to get healthy, he's established himself as a solid everyday player and No. 2 hitter.
Sanchez spent most of his Giants career on the DL after the club acquired him from the Pittsburgh Pirates at the trade deadline in 2009. But he will remain a part of Giants lore for his strong second half in 2010, and moreso, for his deeds in the postseason as the franchise won its first World Series in the San Francisco.
Most notably, Sanchez became the first player in major league history to hit three doubles in his first World Series game. Even more important was his two-out, ninth-inning single in Game 3 of the NLDS at Atlanta, which kept the game alive. Aubrey Huff followed with a tying single and the Giants won on Brooks Conrad's error.
Although the Giants didn't play an elimination game in 2010, they never came closer to having their backs against the wall than when hard-throwing reliever Craig Kimbrel was 0-2 against Sanchez. He ended up guiding a 1-2 pitch up the middle.
"That base hit is one I'll always remember," Bochy said. "That would've made it a lot tougher if we lost that game."
Sanchez was a three-time All-Star with the Pirates and hit .344 to win the NL batting crown in 2006.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/baseball-...y-Sanchez-Giants-c?blockID=735938&feedID=2796
WASHINGTON -- Second baseman Freddy Sanchez had surgery Thursday to remove a portion of a disc in his lower back, ending any chance of returning this season and likely bringing an abrupt conclusion to his career as a Giant.
The Giants medical staff said Sanchez's micro discectomy, which was performed by spinal specialist Dr. Robert Watkins, went as anticipated.
"Well, he's out for the year," Giants manager Bruce Bochy said. "It's been a long road for Freddy. I know he's disappointed. He certainly played a critical role in our success in 2010. He helped us win a World Series."
Sanchez signed a $6 million extension last year; he will be a free agent after this season. Bochy indicated there could be some interest in re-signing Sanchez in some form or another, although the back injury combined with shoulder problems makes that possibility very, very hazy.
"You don't know what happens when the season's over," Bochy said. "We still remain optimistic, but this is a definite that we won't have him all year."
Sanchez, 34, hasn't played since June 10 of last season when he went 1-for-2 with a single. The former batting champion dislocated his shoulder while diving for a ground ball up the middle. He tried to rehab the shoulder injury for two months before undergoing surgery to trim his damaged labrum and tighten the capsule.
Although Sanchez pledged to be ready by opening day, he wasn't able to stay on a throwing schedule in spring training and couldn't make throws across his body to turn double plays. Sanchez had tried moving to third base in late April, but his back began bothering him and made it impossible to return to baseball activities.
The Giants pieced together second base for most of April with Emmanuel Burriss and Ryan Theriot, who struggled to play through an elbow injury. But after a stint on the DL allowed Theriot to get healthy, he's established himself as a solid everyday player and No. 2 hitter.
Sanchez spent most of his Giants career on the DL after the club acquired him from the Pittsburgh Pirates at the trade deadline in 2009. But he will remain a part of Giants lore for his strong second half in 2010, and moreso, for his deeds in the postseason as the franchise won its first World Series in the San Francisco.
Most notably, Sanchez became the first player in major league history to hit three doubles in his first World Series game. Even more important was his two-out, ninth-inning single in Game 3 of the NLDS at Atlanta, which kept the game alive. Aubrey Huff followed with a tying single and the Giants won on Brooks Conrad's error.
Although the Giants didn't play an elimination game in 2010, they never came closer to having their backs against the wall than when hard-throwing reliever Craig Kimbrel was 0-2 against Sanchez. He ended up guiding a 1-2 pitch up the middle.
"That base hit is one I'll always remember," Bochy said. "That would've made it a lot tougher if we lost that game."
Sanchez was a three-time All-Star with the Pirates and hit .344 to win the NL batting crown in 2006.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/baseball-...y-Sanchez-Giants-c?blockID=735938&feedID=2796
Timmy is starting to worry me. I know you say "STARTING" to, but let me explain... He puts a lot of himself in every pitch he throws. I figured he was just tired... Now im staring to think it could be the beginning of the end for him.... I think he is about as close to over throwing as I have ever seen and he is going to end up hurting himself. And once a pitcher hurts that elbow or shoulder its a wrap... I think Timmy is a beast and has done A LOT for the Giants over the years but we may need to ship him off for a bat before the world begins to think he is unfix-able....
Trade Timmy??? LOL fuck all that, Timmy put the G-Men back on the map and shined in the big stage when it mattered most. I have no problem with Tim, I could care less how bad he plays, same goes for Matt Cain. I would hate to see either one of them in another uniform. Those two have carried this squad for a while now, they damn near found away to make me get over/forget the Bonds era. I thought after the Goat was gone it would be down hill forever for the G-men. Yeah timmys frame might be small and can't with stand the beating, but he wore his body out for the Giants not for some other squad. show some loyalty