The Meanings of Numbers in the Bible

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Neither did Jews call themselves Jehovah Witnesses. The Triune wasn't given the name Trinity until later on, but the reference to the Trinity is God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. When Jesus was on earth many times did he pray to the father, for example, If it be thy will, or father I know you hear me. Then when Jesus resurrected into Heaven, he blesses his Disciples and all followers with the Gift of the Holy Spirit.
 

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EDJ said:
^AND JEWISH FAITH (DEUT. 6:4)

BUT THE TRINITY IS SOMEHOW "HOLY" BUT NO MENTION OF THAT HOLY UNION IS MENTIONED OR LABELED. WHY? CAUSE THERE IS NO SUCH THANg. IT DEVELOPED THRU THE CENTURIES AFTER THE BIBLE WAS COMPLETED. THE JEWS DIDN'T TEACH OR FOLLOW SUCH, AND NEITHA DID JESUS(HE WAS A JEW AFTER ALL WHO FOLLOWED THE SHEMA).

I DON'T WANNA gO THRU WITH THIS HERESY SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE. JUST JOT THIS INFO DOWN AND READ IT. IT IS KNOWN THAT THE TRINITY WAS FINALIZED AS A DOCTRINE AROUND THE 4TH CENTURY.

THE NEW ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA-(1976), mICROPAEDIA, VOL. X p. 126
THE NEW CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA-(1967), VOL. XIV, p. 299

THE ENCYCLOPEDIA AMREICANA-(1956), VOL. XXVII, p. 294 L

NOUVEA DICTIONNAIRE UNIVERSEL-(PARIS, 1865-1870), EDITED BY M. LACHATRE, VOL. 2, p. 1467

DICTIONARY OF THE BIBLE-(NEW YORK, 1965), p.899
This doesn't make any sense, and post the Shema for all of us to see. After that post the Hebrew words and explain to the board why ecchad is used instead of yachid.

With that being said, why are you constantly saying "I don't want to go into it" when you get certain questions posed to you, yet you CONTINUE to go into it? If I show you evidence CLEARLY showing that the "trinity doctrine" was around BEFORE 4th century guess what you'll do? You'll say "I don't wanna go into it." So if you don't wanna go into it why continue to post about it?
 

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HERESY
JUST gIVIN' YOU INFORMATION SO YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF SOME OF THE HISTORY. I KNOW THE TRINITY(OR WHATEVA IT WAS RERERRED TO BAK THEN WAS AROUND BUT NOT SOLIDIFIED AS THE CORNERSTONE OF BELIEF WITH A NAME.

BUT AS I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO gET INTO IT. I WAS JUST gIVIN' YOU INFO. WE'VE BEEN THRU THIS WITH NO AVAIL, SO JUST HIT ME ON THE E-MEEZY AND LET'S CONCENTRATE ON THIS MUSIC.



STOCTON,
YOU LIKE A LITTLE TROLL THAT HITS MY KNEE WHILE I'M FIgHTIN' YOUR BIg HOMIE. NOBODY WAS TALKIN' TO YOU OR CLAIMED THE JEWS CALLED THEMSELVES J.W. AND I KNOW WHAT THE "TRINITY" IMPLIES. I SUgKEST YOU DO A THOROUgH RESEARCH INTO YOUR BELOVED DOCTRINE BEFORE YOU gO OFF TRYIN' TO TELL ME BIBLE STORIES AND "YOUR" INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE.

HERE, IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS AN OLD TOPIC:

http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=115706
 
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STOCTON,
YOU LIKE A LITTLE TROLL THAT HITS MY KNEE WHILE I'M FIgHTIN' YOUR BIg HOMIE. NOBODY WAS TALKIN' TO YOU
Who's my Big homie and if you weren't talking to me then

3 IN JUDAISM? NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE IS THE WORD "TRI"-NITY AND JEWS DON'T BELIEVE IN 3-1 gODHEAD. AND SHNEVEN IS JUST MY PERSONAL TAKE. FUK THE NUMBER SCHNEVEN.
 

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EDJ said:
HERESY
JUST gIVIN' YOU INFORMATION SO YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF SOME OF THE HISTORY. I KNOW THE TRINITY(OR WHATEVA IT WAS RERERRED TO BAK THEN WAS AROUND BUT NOT SOLIDIFIED AS THE CORNERSTONE OF BELIEF WITH A NAME.

BUT AS I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO gET INTO IT. I WAS JUST gIVIN' YOU INFO. WE'VE BEEN THRU THIS WITH NO AVAIL, SO JUST HIT ME ON THE E-MEEZY AND LET'S CONCENTRATE ON THIS MUSIC.



STOCTON,
YOU LIKE A LITTLE TROLL THAT HITS MY KNEE WHILE I'M FIgHTIN' YOUR BIg HOMIE. NOBODY WAS TALKIN' TO YOU OR CLAIMED THE JEWS CALLED THEMSELVES J.W. AND I KNOW WHAT THE "TRINITY" IMPLIES. I SUgKEST YOU DO A THOROUgH RESEARCH INTO YOUR BELOVED DOCTRINE BEFORE YOU gO OFF TRYIN' TO TELL ME BIBLE STORIES AND "YOUR" INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE.

HERE, IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS AN OLD TOPIC:

http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=115706
EDJ, the things you presented in that topic were refuted, and the parts that I didn't address (at the very end) didn't need to be addressed because all you'll do is go around in circles. If you don't want to get into it why talk about it? Why bring it up?
 
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I don't know why we're still debating the Trinity. I gave proof that is YET to be refuted in a thread a while back. Let me go and find it.

EDIT:

MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
eipon oun umin oti apoqaneisqe en taiV amartiaiV umwn: ean gar mh pisteushte oti ego eimi, apoqaneisqe en taiV amartiaiV umwn.
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Not the best Greek translation of John 8:24. But the highlighted should be noted. Christ was almost killed for saying this.

John 20:27-28

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Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here and see my hands, and bring your hand and put it into my side, and do not be unbelieving, but believe."
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17 Thomas answered and said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

Greek John 20:28
apekriqh qwmaV kai eipen autw, o kurioV mou kai o qeoV mou.

The highlighterd part translates to:
My Lord and My God.
Ο κύριος και ο Θεός μου
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Ο Λόρδος και ο Θεός μου


Greek = English = Copied and Pasted Portion
Θεός = God = qeov
μου = My= mou
και = and = kai
κύριος = master = kuriov

Greek New Testament:
http://www.greekbible.com/index.php
Translators:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr
www.dictionary.com
 

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OH, SHIT, I'M gETTIN' JUMPED CUZZ! LOL NAW HERESY, WE LEFT IT ALONE. AND YES, THE CIRCLES ARE THE MISTRANSLATIONS. YOU SAY PO-TA-TO, I SAY PO-TA-TO. ALL I ASK IS YOU RESEARCH THE SHIT INSTEAD OF HAVIN' A BIAS.

MC,
ONE TEXT TRANSLATED TO FIT YOUR DOgMA DOESN'T PROVE SHIT.

STOCTONSOUTHSIDE,

YOU gOIN' OFF OF HERESY'S STATEMENT ABOUT THE JEWS AND TRIED TO COME OFF WITH "THEY AIN'T J.W" AND NOBODY TALKIN' J.W BUT HERESY TRYIN' TO SLIDE THAT IN TO PROVE THE WORD "TRINITY" IS STILL HOLY EVEN IF IT AIN'T FOUND IN THE SCRIPTURES BY NAME. THE NUMBER 3 WAS WHAT YOU AND I WERE DISCUSSIN'. AgAIN, I'LL ASK YAW, IF IT'S SO HOLY, WHY AIN'T IT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE BY NAME? YHWH IS FOUND IN SCRIPTURE EVEN AFTER THE JEWS, TRIED TO HIDE THAT NAME FROM EARLY TRANSLATIONS, SO WHY IS THE WORD "TRINITY" AIN'T EVEN FOUND IF IT'S SO HOLY? JUST ANSWER THAT AND I'LL SHUT THE FUK UP.
 
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Are not the English word which we speak in Modern times a collection of Latin, Greek, Hebrew and all sorts of Languages? Yes. It's a Term, Trinity and it's not found in the Bible, that best describes the Deity of Elohim, or YHWH, Ruach Hakodesh, Yeshua Messiach, Adonai, Elyon, El Shaddai.
 
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EDJ said:
MC,
ONE TEXT TRANSLATED TO FIT YOUR DOgMA DOESN'T PROVE SHIT.
So a translation from the actual language in which the books were written doesn't mean shit because of what? Oh yeah, because they seem to fit my "dogma" and not yours right? LOL!
 

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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
So a translation from the actual language in which the books were written doesn't mean shit because of what? Oh yeah, because they seem to fit my "dogma" and not yours right? LOL!
CAUSE THE WAY YOU TRANSLATIN' "ONE" SCRIPTURE, VERSUS LOOKIN' AT SEVERAL, AND THEN LOOKIN' AT THE WHOLE BIBLE TO SEE IF THAT AgENDA CONTRADICTS N-E-THANg ELSE IN SCRIPTURE.

STOCCTONSOUTHSIDER said:
So what's your point with Jews Being monotheists and Jesus being Jew?
:paranoid: I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THAT JESUS FOLLOWED THE SAME BELIEFS MAYBE?:cool:
 
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I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THAT JESUS FOLLOWED THE SAME BELIEFS MAYBE?
He did NOT FOLLOW THE JEWISH LAWS, He followed the Laws which were established by the Father and Him and the Holy Spirit. The Pharisees and Priests were following CEASAR and themselves instead of God. Since Jesus was God Manifested into man, Wouldn't he have followed himself? Yes.
 
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If he followed Jewish laws, would he have not healed on the Sabbath, would God not have Forgiven Whores and Murderers and Sinners. Many of the Jews didn't even forgive these kinds of people but Jesus did. He followed the Way of the Father not the Jews. Let me ask you this, if Christ said if you see me you see the Father, and if he prays to the Father are there not two persons in the conversation? And when the Holy Spirit came upon Jesus, were all the Presence of all three there?
 

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OH, SHIT, I'M gETTIN' JUMPED CUZZ! LOL NAW HERESY, WE LEFT IT ALONE. AND YES, THE CIRCLES ARE THE MISTRANSLATIONS. YOU SAY PO-TA-TO, I SAY PO-TA-TO. ALL I ASK IS YOU RESEARCH THE SHIT INSTEAD OF HAVIN' A BIAS.
Circle talk. Please take your own advice. :)

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