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HERESY

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FUK gAY-Z AND THAT OTHA MAINSTREAM BULLSHIT. WHO IS THEY FOR YOU TO HAVE THEY NAME IN YOUR MOUTH? TO ME THEY IRRELEVENT. BUT AS A MAN THAT'S SINNIN' EVERYDAY AND SEEKS WORLDLY DESIRES(LIKE THIS RAP CAREER SUCCESS AND BEIN' FAMOUS FOR IT) I WOULD WANNA HAVE THE BEST OF THE BEST BUT YET AND STILL HAVE MY SCRILL TO INVEST.

BUT WHAT gOOD IS IT TO HAVE KNOWLEDgE IF YOU DON'T APPLY IT? YOU JUST CAN'T BE ONE PERSON TRYIN' TO LIVE YOUR LIFE IN A WAY THAT YOU MADE IT OUT THE HOOD AND THOSE AROUND YOU ARE ASSED OUT. YOU STILL gOT A FUCCED OFF COMMUNITY.

SO IS YOU PART OF THE PROBLEM OR THE SOLUTION?

1.THEY ARE RELEVENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE MILLIONS OF ***YOUTH*** LISTENING TO THE MUSIC THAT THEY MAKE. YOU HAVE *MILLION*S OF YOUTH TRYING TO *EMULATE* THEM *AND* THE LIFESTYLE THEY LIVE.


2.I CAN SPEAK ON *ANYBODY* ON THIS PLANET. WITHOUT FEAR. YOU INCLUDED. SO ITS NOT ABOUT WHO THEY ARE OR WHO I AM.

3.GOD DOESNT WANT YOU BROKE. HE DOESNT WANT YOU TO BE BLINDED BY RICHES EITHER. THE RAPPERS I MENTIONED ARE BLINDED BY RICHES AND ALLOW THE CYCLE TO CONTINUE.

4. IF YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE AND DONT APPLY IT YOU ARE WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE.

5.YOU CANT BE THE PERSON THAT WILL LEAVE THE HOOD AND NOT LOOK BACK BUT AT THE SAME TIME I HAVE TO THINK LOGICALLY. WHERE WAS THE HOOD WHEN I NEEDED BREAD ON MY TABLE? WHERE WAS THE HOOD WHEN I WAS PAYING FOR ART COLLEGE? WHERE WAS THE HOOD WHEN I HAD TO PAY THE LIGHT BILL? WHERE WAS THE HOOD WHEN I WAS BROKE?


I CAN LOOK BACK AND HELP BUT THE GOOD LORD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES. IF THEY KNOCK I WILL ANSWER THE DOOR. IF NOT I WILL CONTINUE TO DO WHAT I DO. WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.


6.IM PART OF THE PROBLEM AND SOLUTION..........BUT IN WHAT SHAPE FORM OR FASHION???????????



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I was reading a poll in a magazine and it said that blacks were the least effected by 9-11 out of all the ethnicities. And it was by a HUGE margin...

Solution to the problem? It's so huge it's ridiculous. The mentality of a young black male nowadays is not very good. So many brothas blinded by bling bling type of shit it's ridiculous. However I think the mentality can be changed easily. You don't know how many people are affected by the rap music they listen. What if Rappers bragged about owning little stores or something? What if investing your money in real estate, stores, land was rapped about? People would think that shit is tight. Instead of Baby from Cash Money saying "I got 4 Cars what what" what if he said "I got 4 stores in the project what what"....LOL!! People would pobably try and copy...LOL!! I don't know but black people need to learn how to I N V E S T..

I agree with Hersey that people need to pick up a fucking Econ book and learn how this Economy is runned.
 

HERESY

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I was reading a poll in a magazine and it said that blacks were the least effected by 9-11 out of all the ethnicities. And it was by a HUGE margin...

Solution to the problem? It's so huge it's ridiculous. The mentality of a young black male nowadays is not very good. So many brothas blinded by bling bling type of shit it's ridiculous. However I think the mentality can be changed easily. You don't know how many people are affected by the rap music they listen. What if Rappers bragged about owning little stores or something? What if investing your money in real estate, stores, land was rapped about? People would think that shit is tight. Instead of Baby from Cash Money saying "I got 4 Cars what what" what if he said "I got 4 stores in the project what what"....LOL!! People would pobably try and copy...LOL!! I don't know but black people need to learn how to I N V E S T..

I agree with Hersey that people need to pick up a fucking Econ book and learn how this Economy is runned.

WHAT YOU JUST TYPED IS WHAT I WENT ON THAT TALK SHOWING TRYING TO EXPLAIN. WHAT YOU JUST TYPED IS A MAJOR REASON WHY I SAY THAT THE BLACK RACE IS DOOMED. IF THIS WORLD CONTINUES FOR 50 MORE YEARS (I DOUBT IT) WHERE WILL THE BLACK MAN BE?



EXTINCT.

:h:


PS GREAT POST TENK.
 
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HERESY said:



WHAT YOU JUST TYPED IS WHAT I WENT ON THAT TALK SHOWING TRYING TO EXPLAIN. WHAT YOU JUST TYPED IS A MAJOR REASON WHY I SAY THAT THE BLACK RACE IS DOOMED. IF THIS WORLD CONTINUES FOR 50 MORE YEARS (I DOUBT IT) WHERE WILL THE BLACK MAN BE?



EXTINCT.

:h:


PS GREAT POST TENK.
The Black community died a long time ago...

The chances of reviving it is slim...

If black people actually knew how to invest there money we would be among one of the best groups in America. We keep putting so much money in and get very little in return it's truly sad.
 

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HERESY,
YOU STRESSED, "1.THEY ARE RELEVENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE MILLIONS OF ***YOUTH*** LISTENING TO THE MUSIC THAT THEY MAKE. YOU HAVE *MILLION*S OF YOUTH TRYING TO *EMULATE* THEM *AND* THE LIFESTYLE THEY LIVE. "

SO WHAT? WHAT THAT gOT TO DO WITH YOU? A PLAYA DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE NEXT MAN BUT HIMSELF AND HIS. I KNOW YOU HANDLIN' YOUR BUSINESS, BUT TO WORRY ABOUT THE NEXT MAN IS DOIN' IS UNPLAYA-LIKE. THAT'S ALL I WAS STRESSIN' LOAK.

THEN YOU STRESS, "2.I CAN SPEAK ON *ANYBODY* ON THIS PLANET. WITHOUT FEAR. YOU INCLUDED. SO ITS NOT ABOUT WHO THEY ARE OR WHO I AM. "

NOBODY STRESSED THAT YOU FEAR N-E-BODY(WHILE YOU MAKIN' IT SEEM LIKE YOU TRYIN' TO gO LEFT WITH SHIT). ALL I WAS SAYIN' WAS "WHY YOU EVEN WORRIED ABOUT THEM MUTHA-FUKAS", PIONT, BLANK PERIOD. IT'S COO' TO BE UP ON gAME AND PEEP WHAT THESE MAINSTREAM RAPPERS IS DOIN', BUT TO WORRY ABOUT THEM AND HAVE THEY NAME IN YOUR MOUTH JUST LETS OTHAS KNOW THAT YOU WORRIED ABOUT THESE NIggAS. ME, I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THEM NIggAS CAUSE I'M TRYIN' TO PUT MINES ON. WHAT THEY DOIN' AIN'T NONE OF MY BUSINESS. I AIN'T PART OF THEY SQUAD, THEY AIN'T DOIN' SHIT FOR ME, AND I DEFINITELY AIN'T A FAN. SO WHY WOULD I(OR YOU) WORRY ABOUT THEM?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "5.YOU CANT BE THE PERSON THAT WILL LEAVE THE HOOD AND NOT LOOK BACK BUT AT THE SAME TIME I HAVE TO THINK LOGICALLY. WHERE WAS THE HOOD WHEN I NEEDED BREAD ON MY TABLE? WHERE WAS THE HOOD WHEN I WAS PAYING FOR ART COLLEGE? WHERE WAS THE HOOD WHEN I HAD TO PAY THE LIGHT BILL? WHERE WAS THE HOOD WHEN I WAS BROKE?


I CAN LOOK BACK AND HELP BUT THE GOOD LORD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES. IF THEY KNOCK I WILL ANSWER THE DOOR. IF NOT I WILL CONTINUE TO DO WHAT I DO. WHATEVER THAT MAY BE."

AMEN. IT'S ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU DO FOR YOURSELF. SO IF YOU HELP YOURSELF, YOU CAN HELP OTHAS(IF YOU WISH TO DO SO). I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT AIN'T NO LOVE IN THEM STREETS AND AT THE END IT COMES DOWN TO SELF. BUT I WILL HELP MY PEOPLES(ASSUMIN' THEY HAVEN'T BURNT THEY BRIDgE).

THEN YOU STRESSED, "6.IM PART OF THE PROBLEM AND SOLUTION..........BUT IN WHAT SHAPE FORM OR FASHION???????????

CAN YOU EXPAND?

TENKAMIN, OR SHOULD I SAY AFRICA,
FUK THEM POLLS. YOU KNOW THAT SHIT IS MISLEADIN' AND INACCURATE. WHERE DID THEY gET THEIR INFORMATION? EVERY HOUSEHOLD IN AMERIKKKA? DID THEY gO TO THE PRISONS TOO AND DO THE POLL?

BUT BROTHAS BEEN RAPPIN' BOUT INVESTIN'. THE THANg IS THAT A LOT gET CAUgHT UP AND SIDE-TRACCED BY OTHA SHIT THAT IN THE STATE WE IN, IT'S DIFFICULT TO BE IN BUSINESS.
ALL I'M SAYIN' IS THAT SHIT IS EASIER SAID THAN DONE.
 
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EDJ said:
TENKAMIN, OR SHOULD I SAY AFRICA,
FUK THEM POLLS. YOU KNOW THAT SHIT IS MISLEADIN' AND INACCURATE. WHERE DID THEY gET THEIR INFORMATION? EVERY HOUSEHOLD IN AMERIKKKA? DID THEY gO TO THE PRISONS TOO AND DO THE POLL?

BUT BROTHAS BEEN RAPPIN' BOUT INVESTIN'. THE THANg IS THAT A LOT gET CAUgHT UP AND SIDE-TRACCED BY OTHA SHIT THAT IN THE STATE WE IN, IT'S DIFFICULT TO BE IN BUSINESS.
ALL I'M SAYIN' IS THAT SHIT IS EASIER SAID THAN DONE.
EDJ, most rappers talk about investing there money into ho's, cars, platinum, gold teeth, shoes, clothes etc. Thats not the type of investing I'm talking about. I'm talking about buying stores in your local projects invest in things that kids on the streets can do instead of hanging on the streets.

I swear if the Cash Money millionaires gave me about 2 of there expensive chains a piece, only 2 a piece from each rapper which would be about 8 necklaces in total...let me pawn that shit for cash and i'll do some wonderful ass shit for some communities. Now I ain't saying they aren't doing anything for there communities because I know Baby has some programs but you can do more. It's not just them it's A LOT of people..
 

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@TENK MAN I AM *SHOCKED* BY THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT:

The Black community died a long time ago...
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I NEVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD SAY. I DIDNT KNOW THAT YOU HAD VIEWS LIKE THAT. HELL I THOUGHT I WAS BEING EASY BUT DAMN.........AND YOU KNOW WHAT? YOUR RIGHT. THE THING IS WHY IS IT THAT NEGROES GET UPSET WHEN YOU SAY THAT? WHY DO THEY CALL A PERSON A TOM OR SELLOUT BECAUSE HE OR SHE THINKS THAT WAY? I WOULD THINK THAT A SELLOUT WOULD ONLY BE CONCERNED ABOUT HIMSELF. IF YOUR SPEAKING OUT YOUR NOT CONCERNED ABOUT *YOU*. YOUR CONCERNED ABOUT *EVERYONE*.


@EDJ WELCOME BACK SUCKA!!! LOL! I WAS LATE ON THE DISC MAN BUT YOU SHOULD GET IT BY TUESDAY. YOU DOWN TO DO A SHOW? I GOT SOME THINGS I NEED TO RUN BY YOU.
SO WHAT? WHAT THAT gOT TO DO WITH YOU? A PLAYA DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE NEXT MAN BUT HIMSELF AND HIS. I KNOW YOU HANDLIN' YOUR BUSINESS, BUT TO WORRY ABOUT THE NEXT MAN IS DOIN' IS UNPLAYA-LIKE. THAT'S ALL I WAS STRESSIN' LOAK.
NAW PIMP IM NOT STRESSIN ON THOSE CATS AND IM *HAPPY* THAT THOSE CATS ARE PAPERED UP. THEY GOT BLESSED. HOWEVER TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN MUCH IS REQUIRED. I HAVE LIL NEPHEWS AND NIECES COMING UP. IM HAVE TO LACE THEM ON THE REALITY AND HOW THE WORLD OPERATES. SO WHAT DO I HAVE TO COMPETE WITH? MUSIC,TV,MEDIA ETC ETC ETC. SO MUCH NEGATIVE OUT IN THE WORLD AND THE THING IS THESE CATS ARE PROMOTING THAT.
NOBODY STRESSED THAT YOU FEAR N-E-BODY(WHILE YOU MAKIN' IT SEEM LIKE YOU TRYIN' TO gO LEFT WITH SHIT).
BRO THE *****ONLY****** PERSON ON THIS BOARD WHO I HAVE ******REALLY****** CHOPPED IT UP WITH IS ***YOU*** AND ***HUSTLE***. I MEAN DEEP ISSUES AND SITUATIONS. YOU KNOW ITS NOTHIN BUT LOVE OVER HERE MAN. LOOK INTO WHAT IM SAYING. WHEN I SAY I DONT FEAR YOU IM SAYING IM NOT GONNA BITE MY TONGUE. IF I DONT AGREE IM GONNA TELL YOU. HELL DO YOU AND I AGREE ON EVERYTHING? NOPE. YOU KNOW THE DEAL MAN.
ALL I WAS SAYIN' WAS "WHY YOU EVEN WORRIED ABOUT THEM MUTHA-FUKAS", PIONT, BLANK PERIOD. IT'S COO' TO BE UP ON gAME AND PEEP WHAT THESE MAINSTREAM RAPPERS IS DOIN', BUT TO WORRY ABOUT THEM AND HAVE THEY NAME IN YOUR MOUTH JUST LETS OTHAS KNOW THAT YOU WORRIED ABOUT THESE NIggAS. ME, I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THEM NIggAS CAUSE I'M TRYIN' TO PUT MINES ON. WHAT THEY DOIN' AIN'T NONE OF MY BUSINESS. I AIN'T PART OF THEY SQUAD, THEY AIN'T DOIN' SHIT FOR ME, AND I DEFINITELY AIN'T A FAN. SO WHY WOULD I(OR YOU) WORRY ABOUT THEM?
PIMP WHAT THEY DO SHOULD BE YOUR BUSINESS. IF THEY ARE DOING THINGS AND SAYING THINGS THAT ARE CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN AND WHAT YOU STAND FOR YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNED. SO WE SHOULD SIT BACK AND LET THESE IDIOTS SAY WHAT THEY WANT? WHY CANT I SAY "THIS MENTALITY AND LUST FOR $$$$ IS LEADING US DOWN THE DRAIN"?
AMEN. IT'S ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU DO FOR YOURSELF. SO IF YOU HELP YOURSELF, YOU CAN HELP OTHAS(IF YOU WISH TO DO SO). I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT AIN'T NO LOVE IN THEM STREETS AND AT THE END IT COMES DOWN TO SELF. BUT I WILL HELP MY PEOPLES(ASSUMIN' THEY HAVEN'T BURNT THEY BRIDgE).
I KNOW KNOW HOW YOU RIDE. WHEN YOU CAME HERE I SAW FIRST HAND HOW YOU RIDE. YOU KNOW THE CODE AND I KNOW THE CODE. THE THING IS WHO CAN BE TRUSTED? HOW MANY OF YOUR HOMIES WILL JUST CALL OUT OF THE BLUE TO SEE HOW YOU ARE DOING? HOW MANY WILL SAY HERE MAN HERES A TWAMP FOR YOU? HOW MANY WILL BE THERE FOR YOU WHEN THINGS ARE DOWN? HOW MANY HAVE BURNT THE BRIDGES?

SEE I LOOK OUT FOR PEOPLE WHO I VIBE AND DEAL WITH AND PEOPLE WHO CANT REPAY ME. IM TRYING TO BUST MY FOOT IN THE DOOR REALLY BIG. THATS WHY *EVERYTIME* I TALK TO SOMEONE ABOUT *ME* AND *MY* MUSIC I ALWAYS MENTION "I GOT A BOY NAMED EDJ" OR "I HAVE A BOY NAMED WALT OUT IN PHILLY" "THEY CAN DO BLAH BLAH BLAH AND THEY ARE BLAH BLAH BLAH". YOU AND WALT (NOSTRIL KING) ARE 2 PEOPLE WHO I VIBE WITH SO I DONT DO WHAT I DO JUST FOR ME. SAME FOR SGT HUSTLE. WHEN IM MAKING MOVES AND TRYING TO DO THINGS IM LOOKIN OUT FOR HER ALSO. SHE HAS HELPED ME *A LOT* AND HAS LACED ME WITH SO MUCH INFO/GAME.

WALT HAS TURNED ME ON TO PEOPLE. YOU HAVE TURNED ME ON TO PEOPLE AND HUSTLE HAS TURNED ME ON TO PEEPS. THE POINT IS YOU LOOK OUT FOR ME. I WILL LOOK OUT FOR YOU. IF I LOOK OUT FOR YOU I ****DONT**** EXPECT *ANTHING* FROM YOU EXCEPT ONE THING. HELP SOMEONE ELSE. HELP SOMEONE ELSE WHO CANT REPAY YOU. THATS WHAT MATTERS THE MOST.
CAN YOU EXPAND?
IM PART OF THE PROBLEM TO "THEM". THEY DONT WANT ME TO BREAK THE MOLD AND THINK FOR MYSELF. THEY WANT ME TO BE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. THEY WANT ME TO KILL MY PEOPLE. THEY DONT LIKE THAT IM SPEAKING OUT AND TELLING THE TRUTH. SO TO THEM I AM THE PROBLEM.

IM ALSO PART OF THE SOLUTION. ONE MORE PERSON WHO IS ABLE TO THINK FOR HIMSELF. ONE MORE WHO WILL READ FOR HIMSELF. ONE MORE PERSON WHO WILL TEACH AND HELP OTHERS BECAUSE THATS WHAT ITS ABOUT. HELPING. FORGET YOUR SPIRITUAL BELIEFS, YOUR COLOR ,YOUR GENDER OR SEX PREFERENCE. WHEN YOU SEE SOMEONE DOWN (ESPECIALLY YOUR OWN) HELP EM OUT. LEAD BY EXAMPLE..........

PONDER IT MAN. MUCH LOVE.


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AFRIKA,
RAPPERS TALKIN' BOUT MONEY AND HOES IS JUST A FAD THAT IS PREVALENT IN THE RAP COMMUNITY. BUT IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT THE SUBCULTURE REVOLVES AROUND. BUT THEN YOU HAVE BROTHAS LIKE PUBLIC ENEMY AND MASTER P WHO SHOWED BROTHAS. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN YOU TRY TO HELP AND SHOW BY EXAMPLE, PEOPLE BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS THEM. LOOK AT MC HAMMER. HE EMPLOYED AND SHOWED NOTHIN' BUT LOVE TO BROTHAS AND gUESS WHAT HAPPENED? AT THE END, HE ENDED UP BANKRUPT AND LABELED A SELL OUT, DESPITE ALL THE NIggAS HE HELPED. HOW ABOUT MASTER P? HE SHOWED A BROTHA CAN START FROM NOTHIN' AND MAKE IT SOMETHIN'. EVEN EMPLOYED A LOT OF PEOPLE. BUT AT THE END MONEY CAME IN BETWEEN ALL OF THAT.

HERESY,
FA SHO WE CAN DO A SHOW. JUST LET ME KNOW.
BUT YOU STRESSED, "NAW PIMP IM NOT STRESSIN ON THOSE CATS AND IM *HAPPY* THAT THOSE CATS ARE PAPERED UP. THEY GOT BLESSED. HOWEVER TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN MUCH IS REQUIRED. I HAVE LIL NEPHEWS AND NIECES COMING UP. IM HAVE TO LACE THEM ON THE REALITY AND HOW THE WORLD OPERATES. SO WHAT DO I HAVE TO COMPETE WITH? MUSIC,TV,MEDIA ETC ETC ETC. SO MUCH NEGATIVE OUT IN THE WORLD AND THE THING IS THESE CATS ARE PROMOTING THAT."

THEY ARE PROMOTIN' THAT AND I CAN SEE IF YOU COUNTER-BALANCE THAT MESSAgE. BUT I STILL SAY FUK THEM NIggAS. THEY AIN'T WORTH UTTERIN' THEY NAME.

THEN YOU STRESS, "PIMP WHAT THEY DO SHOULD BE YOUR BUSINESS. IF THEY ARE DOING THINGS AND SAYING THINGS THAT ARE CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN AND WHAT YOU STAND FOR YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNED. SO WE SHOULD SIT BACK AND LET THESE IDIOTS SAY WHAT THEY WANT? WHY CANT I SAY "THIS MENTALITY AND LUST FOR $$$$ IS LEADING US DOWN THE DRAIN"?"
ONCE AgAIN, AIN'T NO MAN THAT IMPORTANT TO HAVE HIS NAME IN MY MOUTH. I'M AN IMPERFECT BEIN' DEALIN' WITH MY LIFE AND STRUggLES. IF WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS CONTRARY TO WHAT I BELIEVE, THEN I'M gONNA SPEAK AgAINST THAT TOPIC, MESSAgE, OR WHATEVA IT MAY BE. BUT THAT DON'T MEAN THAT I'M gONNA PUT THEY NAME UP IN IT. CAUSE AIN'T NOTHIN NEW UNDA THE SUN. SO IF THEY DOIN' SOMETHIN', YOU KNOW SOMEBODY ALREADY DID IT BEFORE THEM. THEY AIN'T NOBODY SPECIAL. ANSWER THIS, " WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT, THE MESSAgE OR THE MESSENgER?"

THEN YOU STRESS, "I KNOW KNOW HOW YOU RIDE. WHEN YOU CAME HERE I SAW FIRST HAND HOW YOU RIDE. YOU KNOW THE CODE AND I KNOW THE CODE. THE THING IS WHO CAN BE TRUSTED? HOW MANY OF YOUR HOMIES WILL JUST CALL OUT OF THE BLUE TO SEE HOW YOU ARE DOING? HOW MANY WILL SAY HERE MAN HERES A TWAMP FOR YOU? HOW MANY WILL BE THERE FOR YOU WHEN THINGS ARE DOWN? HOW MANY HAVE BURNT THE BRIDGES?
MAN, THE WAY THANgS HAVE HAPPENED, I REALLY DON'T TRUST NOBODY CAUSE NIggAS DONE LET ME DOWN. NIggAS DONE BURNT THEY BRIDgE. THAT DON'T MEAN I'M NOT gONNA HELP THOSE AROUND ME, CAUSE I SHOW LOVE TO THOSE THAT SHOW ME LOVE. THOSE THAT KEEP IT REAL, I'M gONNA SHOW THEM HOW REAL I AM AND HOW MY WORD IS MY BOND. YOU SHOULD KNOW FIRSTHAND, CAUSE WHEN I TOLD YOU I WAS COMIN' I CAME. WHEN I SAID I HAD SOME MUSIC I SHOWED YOU THE PRODUCT I WAS FUCCIN' WITH. AND YOU IN RETURN SHOWED LOVE BAK. THAT'S THE KIND OF SHIT I'M TALKIN' BOUT. MOST NIggAS IN THE HOOD IS TALK(AND YOU COULD QUOTE ME ON THAT ONE).
AND RIgHT ON FOR EXPANDIN'.
 
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i dont think it has a big effect on the black community, especially the muslim blacks and christian blacks, because the "nation of islam" is not the same as Islam practiced by the shiites and the other sect... "nation of islam" is like a spin off of the Islamic faith for blacks in the us by blacks in the us, thus the two Islamic faiths are very much different and there has been no type of accusation towards the nation of islam or ties between the NOI and islamic extremists....
 

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^^^^ and the nation of islam contradicts real islam in a variety of ways.

@edj
LOOK AT MC HAMMER. HE EMPLOYED AND SHOWED NOTHIN' BUT LOVE TO BROTHAS AND gUESS WHAT HAPPENED? AT THE END, HE ENDED UP BANKRUPT AND LABELED A SELL OUT, DESPITE ALL THE NIggAS HE HELPED.
i know this was directed to afrika but thats true.however mc hammer also purchased custom made cars (that looked dumb as hell), purchased a helicoptor for the opd (helping out the rollers) and paying for several of his dancers to received $20,000 haircuts/hairstyles(each). i would have tried to manage my money better.

THEY ARE PROMOTIN' THAT AND I CAN SEE IF YOU COUNTER-BALANCE THAT MESSAgE. BUT I STILL SAY FUK THEM NIggAS. THEY AIN'T WORTH UTTERIN' THEY NAME.
i wouldnt rap about them in fact i wouldnt rap about ANYONE anymore (other rappers people who i want to mash on).
ONCE AgAIN, AIN'T NO MAN THAT IMPORTANT TO HAVE HIS NAME IN MY MOUTH. I'M AN IMPERFECT BEIN' DEALIN' WITH MY LIFE AND STRUggLES.
you dont think that what they promote and rap about has a negative effect on you? directly or indirectly.

IF WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS CONTRARY TO WHAT I BELIEVE, THEN I'M gONNA SPEAK AgAINST THAT TOPIC, MESSAgE, OR WHATEVA IT MAY BE. BUT THAT DON'T MEAN THAT I'M gONNA PUT THEY NAME UP IN IT. CAUSE AIN'T NOTHIN NEW UNDA THE SUN. SO IF THEY DOIN' SOMETHIN', YOU KNOW SOMEBODY ALREADY DID IT BEFORE THEM. THEY AIN'T NOBODY SPECIAL.
PEOPLE LIKE JESSE JACKSON,COLLIN POWELL AND AL SHARPTON DESERVE TO BE MASHED ON. AS FAR AS RAPPERS ITS NOT PUTTING ANYONES NAME IN IT. ITS TELLING IT LIKE IT IS.

ANSWER THIS, " WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT, THE MESSAgE OR THE MESSENgER?"
NEITHER IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE OTHER. IF YOU CANT TRUST THE MESSENGER YOU CANT TRUST THE MESSAGE. IF THE MESSAGE IS NOT ONE THAT BEARS FRUIT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MESSENGER. SO THEY BOTH TIE IN TOGETHER. THATS LIKE SAYING WHICH IS THE MORE IMPORTANT A SYNTH OR THE PERSON WHO IS PLAYING IT.
MOST NIggAS IN THE HOOD IS TALK(AND YOU COULD QUOTE ME ON THAT ONE).
100% TRUTH PIMP.

NOW LET ME ASK YOU THIS. WHO DO YOU RECEIVE MORE HATRED AND EVIL CRITICISM OR CONTENT FROM? A WHITE MAN OR THE BLACK MAN THAT YOU SEE EVERYDAY?

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EDJ said:
AFRIKA,
RAPPERS TALKIN' BOUT MONEY AND HOES IS JUST A FAD THAT IS PREVALENT IN THE RAP COMMUNITY. BUT IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT THE SUBCULTURE REVOLVES AROUND. BUT THEN YOU HAVE BROTHAS LIKE PUBLIC ENEMY AND MASTER P WHO SHOWED BROTHAS. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN YOU TRY TO HELP AND SHOW BY EXAMPLE, PEOPLE BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS THEM. LOOK AT MC HAMMER. HE EMPLOYED AND SHOWED NOTHIN' BUT LOVE TO BROTHAS AND gUESS WHAT HAPPENED? AT THE END, HE ENDED UP BANKRUPT AND LABELED A SELL OUT, DESPITE ALL THE NIggAS HE HELPED. HOW ABOUT MASTER P? HE SHOWED A BROTHA CAN START FROM NOTHIN' AND MAKE IT SOMETHIN'. EVEN EMPLOYED A LOT OF PEOPLE. BUT AT THE END MONEY CAME IN BETWEEN ALL OF THAT.
Yeah but even Master P flaunts his cash in his music. MC Hammer is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Yeah he was great for doing shit for his community, and helping out his folks. BUT he didn't invest his money very well. He put a lot of money in buying horses, cars and what the fuck did he get out of it? NOTHING Bankuruptcy. I think he would tell you that if he had a second chance at that money he would spend it a lot wiser than he did.

Now about disrespecting women, thats another problem in the community It ain't just the brothas fault it's the sistas fault. I don't even know where to begin with that shit.
 

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^^^ 100%, GRADE A, FIVE STAR, PREMEIUM TRUTH. IT DOESNT GET *ANY* BETTER THAN THAT.

DAMN. I THOUGHT I WAS ALONE WITH THESE VIEWS BUT AFRIKA YOUA ND I THINK ON THE SAME PAGE.

:h:

PS IM STILL SEARCHING FOR YOUR ANSWER. WHERE DID ALL OF THAT TAKE PLACE BECAUSE IT SOUNDS FAMILIAR.
 
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^^^ 100%, GRADE A, FIVE STAR, PREMEIUM TRUTH. IT DOESNT GET *ANY* BETTER THAN THAT.

DAMN. I THOUGHT I WAS ALONE WITH THESE VIEWS BUT AFRIKA YOUA ND I THINK ON THE SAME PAGE.

:h:

PS IM STILL SEARCHING FOR YOUR ANSWER. WHERE DID ALL OF THAT TAKE PLACE BECAUSE IT SOUNDS FAMILIAR.
Sorry I didn't even know you gave that reply to EDJ, I've been on the board for so damn long when I quoted his post your reply wasn't even on there. I took awhile to reply because I was on the phone. But what you said was dead on..

I have absolutely no clue where it took place, I just heard about it and was wondering if you knew. It was some kind of camp where the cult leaders removed Vitamin B or C from the peoples diet to waver there decision making. All I know is that there still doing it.. If you don't know it's all good.... But thanks for searching for me because I have no luck finding it.
 

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HERESY,
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I ASSOCIATE WITH MORE BROTHAS SO OF COURSE I'M gONNA BE HATED MORE BY BROTHAS. BUT I KNOW WHERE YOU gOIN' WITH THIS CAUSE I'M ALREADY KNOWIN' HOW IT IS. THE CIRCUMSTANCES BROTHAS LIVE IN, OF COURSE A NIggA gONNA HATE OR DO WHAT HE gONNA DO. THAT AIN'T NO SECRET. MY THANg IS I'M gONNA SURROUND MYSELF WITH BROTHAS THAT AIN'T ABOUT THAT OR DON'T RESORT TO THAT. THE QUESTION IS THE PERCENTAgE AND RATIO THAT'S LIKE THAT.
BUT TO REBUTTLE YOUR COMMENTS, YOU STRESSED, "i know this was directed to afrika but thats true.however mc hammer also purchased custom made cars (that looked dumb as hell), purchased a helicoptor for the opd (helping out the rollers) and paying for several of his dancers to received $20,000 haircuts/hairstyles(each). i would have tried to manage my money better.
I WOULD OF TOO. BUT WHEN A NIggA gOT THE WORLD IN HIS PALM(OR SEEMS LIKE HE DOES), WHAT CAN YOU TELL THAT NIggA? YOU KNOW THE SHIT gO TO HIS HEAD AND HE JUST FLOSSIN' LIKE IT AIN'T SHIT. BUT A $20,000 HAIRCUT?

THEN YOU gO ON AND STRESS, "i wouldnt rap about them in fact i wouldnt rap about ANYONE anymore (other rappers people who i want to mash on).
THAT'S ALL I WAS STRESSIN'. AIN'T NOBODY'S NAME COMIN' OUT MY DENTAL. IF N-E-THANg, I'M gIVIN' PROPS TO THE NIggAS I'M DOWN WITH, FUK THE REST.

THEN YOU STRESS, "you dont think that what they promote and rap about has a negative effect on you? directly or indirectly."

IT PROBABLY DO, IT PROBABLY DON'T. BUT I'M TRYIN' TO REACH MINES AND THEY IRRELEVANT CAUSE I MAKE THEM IRRELEVANT.

THEN YOU STRESS, "PEOPLE LIKE JESSE JACKSON,COLLIN POWELL AND AL SHARPTON DESERVE TO BE MASHED ON. AS FAR AS RAPPERS ITS NOT PUTTING ANYONES NAME IN IT. ITS TELLING IT LIKE IT IS. "

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU gOT AgAINST THESE BROTHAS, BUT THEY AIN'T NEVA DID SHIT FOR EDJ SO THEY IRRELEVANT TOO. FUK'EM. I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO HOW YOU TIE THEM IN TO THE CFR, BILDERBERgS, WORLD BANK, AND ALL THAT SHIT. IS IT CAUSE OF THE CHURCH? OR CAUSE THEY AIN'T DID SHIT FOR THE BLAK COMMUNITY? AND ABOUT THE RAPPERS, WHAT YOU TELLIN' LIKE IS WHAT? CAN'T YOU DO THAT WITHOUT POINTIN' FINgERS?

THEN YOU STRESS, "NEITHER IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE OTHER. IF YOU CANT TRUST THE MESSENGER YOU CANT TRUST THE MESSAGE. IF THE MESSAGE IS NOT ONE THAT BEARS FRUIT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MESSENGER. SO THEY BOTH TIE IN TOGETHER. THATS LIKE SAYING WHICH IS THE MORE IMPORTANT A SYNTH OR THE PERSON WHO IS PLAYING IT."

I HAVE TO DISAgREE. CAUSE (gOD) COULD OF USED N-E MAN TO DELIVER HIS MESSAgE WHEN CREATIN' THE BIBLE. THE MESSAgE WOULD OF STILL BEEN THE SAME. SAME WITH RAPPERS. IF ALL THESE NIggAS RAPPIN' BOUT THE SAME SHIT, WHAT SO SPECIAL ABOUT N-E OF THEM? BUT YOUR EXAMPLE ABOUT THE SYNTH IS A MISLEADIN' ONE CAUSE YOU COMPARIN' THE PERSON PLAYIN' THE SYNTH AS THE MESSENgER WHEN THE SYNTH PLAYA CAN BE THE AUTHOR, VERSUS JUST BEIN' SOMEONE WHO IS RELATIN' OR PLAYIN' BAK THE MUSIC COMPOSED BY SOMEONE ELSE(AUTHOR).

AFRIKA,
YOU STRESS, " Yeah but even Master P flaunts his cash in his music. MC Hammer is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Yeah he was great for doing shit for his community, and helping out his folks. BUT he didn't invest his money very well. He put a lot of money in buying horses, cars and what the fuck did he get out of it? NOTHING Bankuruptcy. I think he would tell you that if he had a second chance at that money he would spend it a lot wiser than he did.

YOU ALREADY KNOW HAMMER WOULD OF SPENT IT DIFFERENT IF HE HAD ANOTHA CHANCE. BUT AIN'T NO MAN SAFEgUARDED FROM gREED. BUT I gIVE HIM PROPS FOR ATLEAST TRYIN' TO HELP BROTHAS. HIS HEART WAS IN THE RIgHT PLACE. SAME WITH P.
NOW ABOUT FEMALES gETTIN' DISRESPECTED, PERSONALLY, I TREAT THEM HOW THEY COME. BUT I AIN'T gONNA SAY ALL SISTAS ARE A CERTAIN WAY CAUSE THAT BE TOO IgNORANT TO BELIEVE. I SAY I PEEP gAME FIRST.
 
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AFRIKA,
YOU STRESS, " Yeah but even Master P flaunts his cash in his music. MC Hammer is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Yeah he was great for doing shit for his community, and helping out his folks. BUT he didn't invest his money very well. He put a lot of money in buying horses, cars and what the fuck did he get out of it? NOTHING Bankuruptcy. I think he would tell you that if he had a second chance at that money he would spend it a lot wiser than he did.

YOU ALREADY KNOW HAMMER WOULD OF SPENT IT DIFFERENT IF HE HAD ANOTHA CHANCE. BUT AIN'T NO MAN SAFEgUARDED FROM gREED. BUT I gIVE HIM PROPS FOR ATLEAST TRYIN' TO HELP BROTHAS. HIS HEART WAS IN THE RIgHT PLACE. SAME WITH P.
NOW ABOUT FEMALES gETTIN' DISRESPECTED, PERSONALLY, I TREAT THEM HOW THEY COME. BUT I AIN'T gONNA SAY ALL SISTAS ARE A CERTAIN WAY CAUSE THAT BE TOO IgNORANT TO BELIEVE. I SAY I PEEP gAME FIRST.
EDJ, I'm not questioning what Hammer did for his folks. His heart was definitly in the right place, however he didn't do enough for himself when it came to planning for the future. He may've did well for the moment but when it came retirement time he was broke. And thats whats wrong with the black community, we don't invest well which leads to what Heresy said about black folks needing to pick up an Econ book. These problems come from the lack of education about investing and economics.

Now P on the other hand sounds like a good business man, I think he's safe as far investing.

Now as far as black women go, I don't disrespect em. I don't treat them as how they come like you do, I just don't fuck with those kind. Some sistas get what they deserve when they fuck with the wrong brothas, it's unfortunate but it's true. I don't know how many sistas I ran into that said they are looking for the "thuggish brothas". What do they expect when there in a relationship with a brotha like that?
 
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HERESY said:
1.NIGGAS ARE SCARED OF REVOLUTION.

2.NIGGAS ARE SCARED OF REVOLUTION.

3.ALL NIGGAS DO IS TALK.

4.ALL NIGGAS EVER WILL DO IS TALK.

DO ANY OF YALL LISTEN TO "THE LAST POETS"???? I SUGGEST YOU DO. ESPECIALLY IF YOUR BLACK.


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^I do: the first one is tight (The Revolution Will Not Be Televised...
)!! My father has memorized the poem "WAKE UP...Or Ya All Through!" from when he was in middle school.. that song is hella deep...but yea, they're music is bangin. I own two of their cd's but its not the "origianal" last peoets w/ Ben Hassan (sp?)
I feel that the neoconservative nazi's (ya brothaz keepa) patrolin the streets just found a new reason to target another gorup of peoples (sand*iggaz). What will it take before we go ahead and buck the system full force with a united voice???

"We need the killaz in the pen to be free on the streets if we want to have peace!"~The Original