Tech N9ne features on other Strange Music projects

techn9nehq · Oct 17, 2003

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It seems as if Strange Music gets knocked for "overusing" Tech N9ne on other projects being put out by the label. I've noticed that many people kinda look at this as an eyesore. I thought most people in here were Tech fans first and foremost. And if that was the case I would think that you'd like as many features possible, within reason, on these albums coming out.

So where does Strange Music go wrong? Is it not cool that Tech may have some appearances on Kutt Calhoun and Skatterman & Snug Brim's albums?

Are labelmates not supposed to colaborate on tracks anymore? Do you feel that they are just putting Tech on more tracks to sell more units to Tech fans?

I guess I'm not seeing the big picture like most of you are.

We've gone through the arguement about Kaliko before so i'm not even going to start that up again. But this is a serious question that I have. Like I said, I guess I'm not understanding why having Tech featured on a handful of tracks off a labelmate's album is bad or should draw ire from fans.

And also this Strange Music "formula", what's wrong with that? Using the same type of beats from the same producers album after album. The same personel on the tracks (kaliko). I dont see the problem. I look at it like an NWA situation when they first came out. You got a tight knit family of artists, they all colab on their own shit, stay within the group and use little outside help on shit. That seemed to work out well for everybody didnt it? Except for Ice Cube, MC Ren, Dr Dre, Yella......uhhhh nevermind.

I dont know where I was going with that, but I guess what I'm tryin to say is....now that Strange Music has the ball rolling, is it bad to work with the same shit all the time? At least for now?

betthatstang · Oct 17, 2003

Heres my opinion on Tech as a guest apperance. For me its nowhere near an eyesore. If he wasnt featured on them as much as he is now, then THAT would become an eyesore to me! I know that the rest of the guys (Kutt, Kalico, S&S, Vertigo, G Rice, and BG) has an extremely high amount of talent, and I can see that even though Tech is on some tracks at the same time.

I think if Strange is going to be a successful label, and wants to continue to have their fan base grow, they will still need to continue to have Tech on there featured on alot of tracks. Simply because after this year, with his AP Tour that was a huge success, and the Wicked Wonka Tour, from what I've heard so far, is also going to be a huge success, Tech's fan base is going to grow significately.

Therefore, more and more people will be adding Tech N9ne cd's onto their shopping list and will soon associate him w/ Strange Music since he raps about it, and lets face it, Strange Music DOES catch the ear and makes you remember it.

So when the talent from Strange start to release their up and coming projects in the near future, these new fans will start to notice them more because they see that Tech is on there and will remember, "Hey I like Tech N9ne, he's a great rapper" little Timmy said. Then they will pick up someone elses record (Kutt, Kalico, etc.) simply because it has Tech N9ne on there as often as it is. Then those new fans will start to notice Strange Music as a label w/ not only 1 talented act, they will know Strange for ALL of its act.

My point is that Strange should look at the new fan base that is being established right now. THEY are the ones who will make Tech and the family grow. We as loyal fans can only help to push, but its the new ears that are hearing this that will make it spread tremendously faster. So I feel its all about the "newbies" if you want to label them that. Strange NEEDS Tech on there for awhile more, until his music starts to get bigger than it is now. Then they can start to pull him off songs 1 by 1.

This should help you out greatly I feel. Your welcome

(Am I hired........??? hehe)

Makaveli2PAC · Oct 17, 2003

Well said

skeptikaltruth · Oct 17, 2003

my only opinion is while tech is on a shitload of songz and probably all of us love it, he does happen to be on some shitty ass songz like serial killaz is tech doin the shitty songz anyway because he wantz/needs the money or because he likes it or what? does he even have a choice of what he can guest on or nah? and then again at the same time, while he may be on a shitty song he can still outshine the shitty rappers so in another way, he's makin himself look good by also makin a shitty rapper look bad

is tech n9ne on too many songs? not at all....if anythin i think he could be on more if he wanted to

basically, it'z all up to tech

Zer0.MediA · Oct 17, 2003

Tech's the guy that sells albums, but Strange Music is going to be a slightly better version of Psychopathic Records (which is what they're going for as far as I can tell) if they don't keep Tech and especially Kaliko off every fuckin' track.

I might not like SS and whoever else, but just because you have Tech on half the tracks doesn't mean I'm going to buy it anyhow. I'll download the tracks and most likely never listen to them after one time.

Does Strange want to use the Psychopathic formula? That would be, put your main artists on everything and gaurantee yourself (just a random figure) 500,000 sales of EVERY record you put out regardless of the artist, or let them come out, do their thing, and see what sells? If you only have a fan base that will let you push 500,000 units each time, and you start putting out bullshit cd's that take a week to make but you still push those 500,000 units, you're gonna make some serious cash and have a hardcore fanbase, but you're never going anywhere else.

Another problem is that Kaliko makes everything sound the same. I mean if you put together the same damn artists all the time, all the shit is going to sound exactly the same and I'm gonna be tired of it. Fuck that, I'm already tired of it.

That's why you run the website and not the label. Not that I run a label either, but I see the problem.

If your artists are good enough to sell, put them out there, put them on tour, and let them make a name. Otherwise they're just little mini Tech N9ne's and nobody is going to think anything more of them.

Look at Twiztid, ABK, Blaze etc.... Who are they to you other than people with a juggalo fanbase? Nobody. Who's ICP to you? They are the reason for the juggalo fanbase. If Strange keeps stickin' Kaliko and Tech all over their shit then why not just make the Strange team a big group like Ruff Ryders or G-Unit, and in between making Strange Music collab cd's, they can put out solo shit with just the one artist on there with maybe a feature or two?

Otherwise what's the difference?

MizeryU · Oct 17, 2003

i jus think its not good to have tech rappin over half the song on someone elses cd maybe 1/3 but its more of a ttech song i hes doin over half the rappin

Zer0.MediA · Oct 17, 2003

All I know is when Tech is on someone else's track, Tech is the only verse I listen to. The rest just sucks because I'd rather have a Tech cd on, anyhow.

JLMACN · Oct 17, 2003

techn9nehq said:

i agree that they use tech to sell more units..i mean quite honestly...if BG..wasnt with tech i would have never gave him a listen..
his first cd..was just plain whack...

using tech to sell more cd's can hurt help strange but it can also hurt them..cause On MOST OCCASIONS..Tceh clearly out shines his labelmates...and if Tech were to ever not rap on a song(s) with them...most people wouldnt give them a ear..
i guess what im tryin to say is that Yes use tech but dont over use him..

meaning ..lets hear talent of the others..

cause to me tech goes hard on most tracks..

and i agree with Zero..
Tech should really start doin his hooks again..

most his classics...were with him on the hooks..
REcent classic "Breathhhhhhhh"...

the hook is just killer..

Tell em that for me Nick...

:classic:
5000

michampin · Oct 17, 2003

i agree with jlmacn

shep · Oct 17, 2003

all very good points.

and we have seen when tech is on so many tracks that verses start to get recycled

jaydub816 · Oct 17, 2003

shep said:

its happening quite often

techn9nehq · Oct 17, 2003

Sorry, I'm not in the same boat when it comes to the Kailko singin the hooks issue.

He was on 22 out of 27 songs or whatever on Absolute Power and not 2 songs sounded the same. You guys have heard what? 20% of the Kutt and SS albums? And that means everything sounds the same?

I personally don't think Kutt or Skatter n Snug need a crutch from Tech. Both have totally different styles than Tech and their content is on a different level. I think their music is going to appeal to a whole different group of people than what Tech brings in. The comparisons to ICP are kind of off base I think. People would know who Kutt and Kaliko and Skatter and Snug were even if Tech never existed. It's all about who you market your artists to. For one reason or another thousands of Juggalos across the nation have taken kindly to Tech and his style. So you really can't blame Tech for that......it's not like he actively seeked out this whole new fan base. Shit happens and when it's good you just run with it.

Anyways, I was also just commenting on Strange Music projects, not BG Bulletwound, Vertigo or Ray's cousin Greg's sister-in law's brother. I think what Tech does outside of Strange Music is really irrellevant. Sure a lot of these people are fam, but that's their own projects for them to worry about. A lot of people see Tech as a money maker....you'll know one big one that has really leached off one Tech verse for the better part of a year now.

And as for the recycled verses, I don't think it's happening as much as it used to. A lot of these songs popping up are older tracks that he recorded or wrote more than 2 years ago.

I would also like Tech to do more of his hooks......or kinda share them with Kaliko like ON Beef. And Snake Ya is the shit that i've missed. If he starts doing hooks like that everything will be golden.

betthatstang · Oct 17, 2003

Um....I could have sworn someone who was very close to Vertigo told me that they are Strange. Thats atleast one reason why their cd is being pushed back till 2004. Am I wrong?

shep · Oct 17, 2003

techn9nehq said:

good... you better not be talking about Ray's cousin Greg's sister-in-law's brother's shit. that shit is tight!

techn9nehq · Oct 17, 2003

betthatstang said:

Last I heard they are still a totally seperate entity than Strange.....and are looking for an Artist contract under MSC....Strange's parent company.

the way i take it...MSC/Strange Music and MSC/Wiseguy Entertainment.

betthatstang · Oct 17, 2003

ok, thanks for clarifying.

shep · Oct 17, 2003

you're welcome

mizzouplaya · Oct 17, 2003

techn9nehq said:

I greatly disagree with that one.

techn9nehq · Oct 17, 2003

mizzouplaya said:

What I mean is......these artists can make it on their own without Tech on their albums period.....do you greatly disagree with that or do you think they are that terrible?

Makaveli2PAC · Oct 17, 2003

Course they can make it on their own especially Kutt he is great.....Tech just gives them the boost they need to get more exposure and its fuckin' great in my opinion that they are all friends that work together on their music for the same record label.

But thats the goal to get their shit gold then get it platinum and so forth........

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