T-Mac versus Kobe tonight

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KINGCZAR said:
There u go again bring in MJ in to this!! If u claim to know sports, go check out MJ's rookie year when he came to the Bulls after they won 19 games!! he had absolutely no one period and took a 19 win team to the playoffs!! I just busted yo ass on this sports shit!!
First off, the year before he came into the leauge, they won 27 not 19, and his rookie year they went 38-44. Now how did you bust my ass?
 
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So he just does'nt feel like shooting tonight?or he can't get his shot off because of Mac's smothering defense?

I'll go with the latter..

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Example of not speaking the real. If Kobe shoots the ball like McGrady, hes a ball hog and just trying to outdule him, but when McGrady does it (like right now) hes schoolin his ass, see what im saying dog? Its always favoriting against Kobe, you dont see it? Well thats why i say alot of shit about him, just giving what you guys give.
 
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To be real, I aint really trippin off the Ko-Me/T-Mac matchup, cause neither of them are my fav players, but nitro ok say I was off about how many games the Bulls won that first year before Jordan, but he lead them singlehandedly every year to the playoffs, then a few years into the league he got Pippen & Grant!! But dont ever say MJ in his prime cant lead a weak ass team to the playoffs, cause we all know the real about that!! GOT EM!!!
 
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Now were getting somewhere. Answer this question honestly. Do you think Jordan (not in his prime but wth good NBA expierence) could lead Horry, Fox, Samaki and Fisher to the playoffs in his first attempt?
 
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Well what do u mean not in his prime?? if u mean now or last year, I would say no, but if u mean any year he was with the Bulls..YES!! Remember he is the gretatest period, and when he was with the Bulls, which ever year u choose, he was incredible! A winner big time, and he wont let his team lose!! And I think L.A.'s supporting cast is better than what Mike had the first 3 years or so when he was goin to the playoffs!! So there is your answer either way!! GOT EM!!
 
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I dont think the Lakers have anyone aside from Kobe & Shaq that is better then Pippen, Sorry. And they definatley dont have anyone near Rodmans rebounding ability (He wasnt there the first 3 years your talking about but he was a major factor in 3 titles). Im also wondering, you say alot of Jordans skill was his presence and his ability to make people better. Why cant he do that anymore, that isnt a physical ability i wouldnt think, and his knowledge for the game has only improved. I think hes just faced with a sorry team. Im not talking down on Jordan, he is the best ever hands down, but there is a fine line between a team Jordan can bring to the post season, and a team that he just cant do it with. But we will probably never agree on where the Lakers without Kobe & Shaq would be with that line so i guess its pointless to argue this.
 
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First off to wicked when i was replyin to nitro about Jordan's supporting cast, I was talk the 3 years before he got Pippen and Grant! Im talkin the likes of D. Corzine, R. Sparrow, S. Vincent, B. Sellars etc.. Horrendous if u know who those players are. He led teams like that to the playoffs!! So those are the years Im talkin bout, and thats worse than any of these L.A. teams u talkin bout! Now as for MJ now and the Wizards, yes the Wizards arent good, but Mj is 40 and he aint even half the playere he was before! If a team know that MJ cant do what he use to, then it dont matter about gettin your teammates better or knowledge, cause u still have to have the ability to make teams triple team u like he did with the Bulls to get his teammates the Ball in right spots etc..! So Skills ability, age all that matters a great deal!! GOT EM!!
 
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I agree on the fact that those players might have been worse then the Lakers other players. Also i didnt watch or follow the Bulls back in MJ's forst 3 years (I was only 4) but i know about the seasons.

1984-85 38-44
1985-86 30-52
1986-87 40-42

Ill bet you Kobe would win 30 games with this team, without SHAQ. 30-52 and still being able to go to the playoffs, times have changed.
 
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BAMMER said:
stay tuned for Kingczar's summary/round-up of the game @ about 8:20 west coast time!!should be good!
BAMMER said:
Mac is puttin 40+ on Devon Boy George.....
Young Bull said:
the Magics will beat em by at least 15. Their just to fuckin deep.
BAMMER said:
hope Bryant tries to guard him tonight,so mac can drop 50 on him.
What happened?
 
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Naw nitro that 2nd year he didnt play, he broke his foot in like the 3rd game of the season!! Thats how they were able to get B. Sellars that next year cause they had a high draft pick!! But that mark was a bust ofcourse!! But now u see I aint one of those Bandwagon jumpers, cause I followed the Bulls from the jump and MJ as a lil kid, i was a sports boy fasho!! GOT EM!!!
 

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Nitro GH said:
What happened?
McGrady scored 21 points in the first half but suffered a lower back contusion late in the second quarter. He did not play in the third as the Lakers extended their advantage to 80-69.

McGrady came back for the beginning of fourth quarter but, in obvious pain, was ineffective and returned to the locker room after just two minutes.(AOL Media)


that's what happened Tiger...settle down,Mac put up 21 in 20sum minutes of work and shot 50%.
 
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Damn I didnt even know, cause I didnt watch the game! That foo has to many back problems, that might fuck him up mane!! But I figured sumthin happened, cause there was no way he would just finish with 21 which he had at halftime!! Well Ko_Me got lucky this time!! GOT EM!!!
 

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Fo sho,a back injury can kill a career(don mattingly),but I ain't trippin on a contusion cuz it's just a bone bruise so it should'nt linger for long,but who know's

Czar,you see Kobe had all them assists,I think 8












He had 6 turnovers though:classic:
 
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BAMMER See dog, there you go again, you never speak the real. Just full of damn excuses.


BAMMER said:
He did not play in the third as the Lakers extended their advantage to 80-69.
The lakers extended there lead in the third quater by 3 points. The Lakers were already up by 8 at half time when he was playing, so dont give me that BS about them losing cause he was out. He shot %50 which is better then his 100% healthy average. They were losing the game, they would have lost reguardless. I GAURENTEE if the Lakers were down by 8 at halftime and Kobe went out with an injury, yall would have a feild day talking shit on him.
 

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Nitro GH said:
BAMMER See dog, there you go again, you never speak the real. Just full of damn excuses.

The lakers extended there lead in the third quater by 3 points. The Lakers were already up by 8 at half time when he was playing, so dont give me that BS about them losing cause he was out. He shot %50 which is better then his 100% healthy average. They were losing the game, they would have lost reguardless. I GAURENTEE if the Lakers were down by 8 at halftime and Kobe went out with an injury, yall would have a feild day talking shit on him.
Where was the excuse at?Tell me that?Did I say Orlando would ever win this game in any post?No.Did I say if T MAC would have played all 48 that they would have one.NOPE
Either you can't read,or your halucinating.What was'nt real?and what excuse did I use?Mac not playing half the game is a fact Him shooting 50% is me telling everybody he was taking shots inside the offense,and yes it is a fact

You've been schooled time n time again.Kobe had a pretty good game.Happy?