First off to wicked when i was replyin to nitro about Jordan's supporting cast, I was talk the 3 years before he got Pippen and Grant! Im talkin the likes of D. Corzine, R. Sparrow, S. Vincent, B. Sellars etc.. Horrendous if u know who those players are. He led teams like that to the playoffs!! So those are the years Im talkin bout, and thats worse than any of these L.A. teams u talkin bout! Now as for MJ now and the Wizards, yes the Wizards arent good, but Mj is 40 and he aint even half the playere he was before! If a team know that MJ cant do what he use to, then it dont matter about gettin your teammates better or knowledge, cause u still have to have the ability to make teams triple team u like he did with the Bulls to get his teammates the Ball in right spots etc..! So Skills ability, age all that matters a great deal!! GOT EM!!