Suicide

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May 14, 2002
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I know alot of people here don't want to ever think about commiting suicide cuz then they won't let in to heaven.
So it's not an option.

But what if you got some uncureable decease like cancer or aids or something. you know you have to suffer for years would you pull the plug yourself or wait?
 
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Its kind of the "easy" way out even if you have a terminal disease. I guess I couldnt fault a person for doing it considering the pain they feel, but when God wants you, he'll take you. You shouldnt take that in to your own hands.
 
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EDJ said:
^WHAT IF I'M BUDDIST? I DON'T BELIEVE IN NO MUTHA-FUCCIN' HEAVEN. WHAT'S STOPPIN' ME?

I don't know about budism tho.. but if you follow the bible and you commit suicide then you wouldn't be let into heaven right?

but would you consider commiting suicide if you got a terminal desease like cancer or aids or something since you have to go tru years of pain and suffering..
 
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There is not one goddamn millisecond of each day I wouldn't rather be dead.

I'm actually - deep rooted down I guess - angry at god for even creating me in the first place, and not just letting me just "not be"..


but as long as I'm here, and I have stern religious beliefs that i actually believe in - I can't kill myself because being in hell is a long damn time.
 
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EDJ, i cant believe you : "I DON'T BELIEVE IN NO MUTHA-FUCCIN' HEAVEN."

Nostril King, i didnt kow your all like that. I thought you were in school. You obviously are headed somewhere.
 

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Yo I got cancer, and HELL NAH I am not going to give up to it!!!!

Believe me U guys some days suck big dicks, for reals. I get sad, I'm weary in mind and body, and I wish I didn't have it. Just last week I had to do chemo, after I worked a full day, and I had to go back to work the next morning bright and early. Trust that I did not have the energy to get out of bed, but I did. Those days when I just want to cry (and barf 'cause chemo makes U ill as fuck), one thing gets me throught it. I have this cross to bear for a reason. It gives me hope, strength, and faith that even though it's hard, I will survive it.

Plus something else, I see small people who not only have to do chemo but radiation as well. They are between the ages of like 5-9, the best years of life. And U guys should see them, their little bodies might be tired and hurting, but their eyes are alive w/ a fire that is hard to spot in others. I would never tell those kids or their families consider suicide!!! Pain is as relivant as U make it. Death is forever, it's coming for all of us, and when it is our time I really believe that it will manifest itself. But who are we to decided that the world no longer needs us? In a few hours U might save someone else's life or bring joy to someone, who would do that if U killed yourself?
 
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i think suicide is always the coward way out. people think that when they commit suicide, they only hurt themselves, but they dont know that it's a selfish thing, because you hurt everyone that cares about you. you're taking yourself away from people who love and care about you.

i think that everyone has their stories, to why they wanna commit suicide, but things that dont kill only makes you stronger.... life gives yah a lemon, makes lemonaid..... he he, i'm cheesy....*cheese:)
 
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Why is it a "cowardly" way out?

If there was a million bucks just sitting there across a sea of puke - and mufuckers were swimming across and drowning, and you noticed that you could just walk around the pool and get it - wouldn't you?

What the fuck is the point in swimming across?

Well life is like swimming across an ocean of puke and drowning...as a matter of fact I'd rather drown in an ocean of puke than live another fucking day if I was given the choice.

Sometimes I think, what if I'm wrong and there is no god or heaven - everyone who killed themselves got the last laugh because they didn't have to put up with the shit we do...they were the smart ones in that case...

anyone who commits suicide - unless it's over some dumb shit like your hoe left you - I respect because they had the guts to pull the trigger, and i don't
 
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Nostril King said:


Well life is like swimming across an ocean of puke and drowning...as a matter of fact I'd rather drown in an ocean of puke than live another fucking day if I was given the choice.

exactly, if you're able to swim across, then it just mean you survived another speed bump in your life. and like i said, whatever doesn't kill, only makes you stronger. committing suicide is like walking around the pool, it's the too easy and the coward way out. that just mean you can't deal with life and it's obstacles. that's what life is all about, obstacles and how we could overcome them, and we learn from them. i think everything in life serves a purpose, and if shit happens to you, then you must need to learn something from it.
 
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SWeetPea said:


exactly, if you're able to swim across, then it just mean you survived another speed bump in your life. and like i said, whatever doesn't kill, only makes you stronger. committing suicide is like walking around the pool, it's the too easy and the coward way out. that just mean you can't deal with life and it's obstacles. that's what life is all about, obstacles and how we could overcome them, and we learn from them. i think everything in life serves a purpose, and if shit happens to you, then you must need to learn something from it.

I disagree because it works in words..but not in practice.

Every hard experience I've been through has weakened me and destroyed me. I have no desire to continue - life is not only not fun, it's agonizing pain. I don't want to be strong, I don't want to be gangsta, I don't want to be a real man...I just want to be 6 feet deep and not think anymore, not be anymore, and have a bunch of worms eat my carcass.
 

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Why do U think all these hurtful things would happen to U if U couldn't deal w/ it? If U a waste of space and life, then U would be taken from this earth. U have a purpose.
 
May 14, 2002
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To anyone who said suicide is the cowards way out


how would you know? have you had a desease like that bearing for years?
have you had the pain those people had carying the desease?
if not.. how can you say it's a cowards way out... I think if you had a desease like that and you know in like 3 years it would be over and those 3 years would be full of pain and laying on beds and taking medication some of you would concider pulling his own plug tho...


but if that's the case... would you be still led into heaven?



sorry for my typo's tho


respect to roxy tho
 
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I would never commit suicide for several reasons
First of all im muslim and in Islam its a big sin to commit suicide.

"Suicide Is The Gravest Sin
Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) observed: He who killed himself with steel (weapon) would be the eternal denizen of the Fire of Hell and he would have that weapon in his hand and would be thrusting it in his stomach for ever and ever; he who drank poison and killed himself would sip that in the Fire of Hell where he is doomed for ever and ever; and he who killed himself by throwing himself from (the top of) a mountain would constantly fall in the Fire of Hell and would live there for ever and ever. " - Holy Qu'ran

And of course for my personal reasons
Like many of yall already said it its a cowardly way out plus you will hurt your family your friends and everybody who loves you by killing yourself who knows maybe theres no way out today but keep your head up dont lose your hope have faith and maybe tomorrow youll get a solution
 
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iaoish said:
To anyone who said suicide is the cowards way out

i was the one who said that i think committing suicide is the coward way out. my mom had cancer and i had to take care of her four five years of my high school years. i couldn't grow up as a child, i had to come home early everyday and make sure my mom was ok. my dad left so all my older siblings had to work to pay for my mom's medical bills and for our house. there were times where my mom wanted to commit suicide, but she stopped herself because she has children, and the little time she had with her children was special. just like anyone else who has a disease or an illness that is going to lead to death, they could spend that time with their love ones instead of dwelling that they're going to die. everyone is going to die, and obviously there's a time for everyone and if you cut that time shorter then it's suppose to be, it's not fair for the love ones you leave behind.

i'm not trying to offend anyone by saying it's a coward way out, but that's just how i feel. i've known how it would feel like to lose someone to cancer or a disease, but committing suicide and taking themselves before their time, it's very selfish.
 

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IAOISH,
WHO SAID YOU DESTINED TO HEAVEN IF YOU gOOD OR PLAY BY THE RULES? WHERE IS IT WRITTEN IN HOLY SCRIPTURE THAT YOUR RECOMPENSE IS HEAVEN IF YOU FOLLOWED OUR CREATORS WAYS AND DID HIS WILL AFTER YOU DIE?

BLIgHT,
I WAS SPEAKIN' FROM A THIRD PERSON PERSPECTIVE DUMB CUZZ. I WAS STRESSIN' "IF" I WAS BUDDHIST, HINDU, OR N-E OTHA DENOMINATION NOT BASED ON CHRISTAINITY OR THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, THEN I WOULD BE LIKE, "I DON'T BELIEVE IN NO MUTHA-FUCCIN' HEAVEN. WHAT'S STOPPIN' ME?"
 
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This reminds me of this scene in "The Deer Hunter" (An old Vietnam flick with Robert Dinero) where these American POW's were forced to play Rushin Roulette by these sick ass Vietnemeese cats. And if the American POW's refused to play then they would get thrown into a pit full of rats and be tortured to death. Now when the American soldiers pull the trigger and blow their brains to pieces, is that considered suicide and do they burn eternally for it?

What would you do in that situation? Get tortured to death and eaten by rats, or plaly Rushin Roulette for the amusement of some of these sick fucks and end up blowin your own brains out.