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Does anyone here use cool edit 2.0?
if so how do you adjust sound so when u record vocs its not coming out of one speaker......

anyone got any idea or programs for me, i have m powered pro tools already but want sum'n simple.

something simple to drop vocals, thats it. i will then take it to my partners to get it mixed n mastered.

I have:

M-Audio Fast Track Usb interface
M-Audio Audio Buddy dual mic pr-amp
MXL 990 Condenser microphone
Desktop PC
 
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If I were you I wouldn't even play with Cool Edit. If you have Pro-Tools, that should work. If you have the bread, I'd suggest gettin' a Mac (if you're on a small budget, cop a an iMac with an intel core duo and get 2 gigs of ram...or go for the mac mini). Then, invest in Logic Pro (Or keep your pro-tools).

Cool Edit just isn't that good of a program and if you have something better, you'd be better off using that.
 
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If I were you I wouldn't even play with Cool Edit. If you have Pro-Tools, that should work. If you have the bread, I'd suggest gettin' a Mac (if you're on a small budget, cop a an iMac with an intel core duo and get 2 gigs of ram...or go for the mac mini). Then, invest in Logic Pro (Or keep your pro-tools).

Cool Edit just isn't that good of a program and if you have something better, you'd be better off using that.
No offense but you can pretty much ignore all of that. Cool Edit is just fine for what you want. Wasting your money on all that won't do anything for you but, waste your money. In 2008 the idea that Pro-Tools or Mac's are the top-of-the-line is completely silly. Don't buy into the hype because that's all it is.

Now, is your problem that the vocals only come out of one side? Are you recording a stereo track with one channel turned down? A mono track that is panned to one side? Is it just your recordings that do this, or anything you load into Cool Edit?
 
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No offense but you can pretty much ignore all of that. Cool Edit is just fine for what you want. Wasting your money on all that won't do anything for you but, waste your money. In 2008 the idea that Pro-Tools or Mac's are the top-of-the-line is completely silly. Don't buy into the hype because that's all it is.

Now, is your problem that the vocals only come out of one side? Are you recording a stereo track with one channel turned down? A mono track that is panned to one side? Is it just your recordings that do this, or anything you load into Cool Edit?
Don't get me wrong, I don't use Pro-Tools...Logic Pro is a much better program. However, when it comes down to Cool Edit or Pro Tools, there's no comparison. Cool Edit is what we used when we were in High School 'cause that's all there was.

Dude already has Pro-Tools, so why use Cool Edit? If you can figure out how to lay vocals down in one, you can do it in the other with no problems.

As far as Mac's go, they are DESIGNED for music, graphics and video...that's why they make it damn near impossible to contract viruses on them, because people who take multimedia seriously cop these computers to make shit without problematic things fuckin' up the hard drive. They don't cost a lot because of the name, they have always been expensive because of the outstanding performance.

Go into some real design companies and recording studios and tell them they have those macs for no reason.
 
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What exactly so you think is so amazing about Pro-Tools that Cool Edit lacks? I've been using both (and Cubase) for years and honestly, your claim holds no water at all. Sorry man, just saying something is better doesn't make it true.

I go into 'real' media companies and recording studios (many costing millions of dollars) all the time. I'm well aware how common Mac's are, but more importantly I'm well aware of WHY and it's not because they are 'designed for music, graphics, and video'. In truth, there's hardly any difference between Mac's and pc's these days and the more I go into these places, the more I see pc's. Without going into a big history lesson I'll just say that Mac's entered the media arena when there wasn't any competition. This is 2008 however, and there's a reason Apple has had to reinvent themselves. There's a reason DigiDesign bought M-Audio and has shifted a lot of resources to the pc market.

Lastly, Mac's are NOT immune to viruses or crashing. As a matter of fact, 2 of the Mac's (G5's purchased new and running only Pro-Tools) have a tendency to crash every now & then while none of the pc stations (all custom built and running only Pro-Tools) using Windows XP have ever crashed, or gotten a virus.

Sorry man, as someone who uses pc's and Mac's on a daily basis in a professional environment, I'm saying very clearly that these claims simply aren't true. We could get into a big debate about this but with a little serious research on the subject, you quickly learn how silly it is.
 
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aye Sick Wid It...this is Doberman (not that you give a fuck...lol) I would really like to hear some of your music. Not to be judgemental, not to give you props...or not. You have a LOT of knowledge dude. My reasoning is this, instead of asking you a whole lot of questions, maybe I can hear a track or two of yours and pick it apart, learn from it etc.
 

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@The OP, I am no longer familiar with Cool Edit Pro as I haven't used it in many years, but I would say to make sure you aren't recording on a stereo track and to make sure the mono track isn't defaulting to the left (which is what some mono channels default to.)

You need to go into the input/routing section of your program and change your settings there.

Concerning Pro Tools, when it comes to recording it is an easy program to work with. In addition, I'm also against spending a lot of money for a new mac. I've been running the same custom built pc for years now and I haven't had any problems. Go to the digi duc and you'll see MANY professional studios, media companies, etc running pc's that run rings around macs. Moreover, if you look at the plugin and vst list, you'll see the pc has a bit more to offer in those areas.
 
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What exactly so you think is so amazing about Pro-Tools that Cool Edit lacks? I've been using both (and Cubase) for years and honestly, your claim holds no water at all. Sorry man, just saying something is better doesn't make it true.

I go into 'real' media companies and recording studios (many costing millions of dollars) all the time. I'm well aware how common Mac's are, but more importantly I'm well aware of WHY and it's not because they are 'designed for music, graphics, and video'. In truth, there's hardly any difference between Mac's and pc's these days and the more I go into these places, the more I see pc's. Without going into a big history lesson I'll just say that Mac's entered the media arena when there wasn't any competition. This is 2008 however, and there's a reason Apple has had to reinvent themselves. There's a reason DigiDesign bought M-Audio and has shifted a lot of resources to the pc market.

Lastly, Mac's are NOT immune to viruses or crashing. As a matter of fact, 2 of the Mac's (G5's purchased new and running only Pro-Tools) have a tendency to crash every now & then while none of the pc stations (all custom built and running only Pro-Tools) using Windows XP have ever crashed, or gotten a virus.

Sorry man, as someone who uses pc's and Mac's on a daily basis in a professional environment, I'm saying very clearly that these claims simply aren't true. We could get into a big debate about this but with a little serious research on the subject, you quickly learn how silly it is.
Don't get me wrong, I don't use Cool Edit OR Pro-Tools cause neither impresses me. So, to each his own on that issue.

About Mac's, I'm aware that they CAN catch viruses and they CAN crash...it's a computer...it's only as good as its parts. HOWEVER, I personally have never had a virus and nobody I know that runs a Mac has ever had a virus. I've had one Mac eat shit in the 20 years I've been using them.

As far as music and multimedia goes, I've worked on both platforms and only one sucks (in my opinion of course). It's a matter of opinion. The FACT is, yes, Apple builds their shit for education and multimedia.

When it comes down to it, again, it's a matter of opinion. Some might say Adobe Premiere Pro is better than Final Cut...some might say the opposite.

I respect what you're sayin', don't get me wrong...I just happen to be the opposite. It's all good though.
 
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it's a computer...it's only as good as its parts.
I just want to put extra emphasis on that quote right there. One of the biggest mistakes I see people make when they put a pc together is they go cheap on everything. That might be ok to do in some areas but the power supply for example is one thing you don't want to skimp on. I can't stress the importance of good solid clean power from the psu when it comes to a recording/media environment. Especially when you're taxing the cpu and harddrives real heavy.

Anyways, that's a whole other topic in itself.. Just wanted to really make sure the quote got pointed out.
 
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As far as Mac's go, they are DESIGNED for music, graphics and video...that's why they make it damn near impossible to contract viruses on them, because people who take multimedia seriously cop these computers to make shit without problematic things fuckin' up the hard drive. They don't cost a lot because of the name, they have always been expensive because of the outstanding performance.
LMAO.

You seem to be another cat that has fallen victim to Mac's superb marketing team. There are a few things you should know before arguing your points any further. First and foremost, there is NOTHING a Mac can do that a PC cannot. Nothing at all. Anything designed for a Mac can easily be designed for a PC. The difference is a Mac's primary use is entertainment and multimedia, while PCs were originally designed for business purposes. That being said, the reason there are viruses for PCs and not Mac is not because Macs are designed to fight them off. In fact, it's to the contrary. A Mac has NO DEFENSE against any virus because nobody has taken the time to write any. If someone decides it's worth it to them to write a virus for Mac, then Mac users are fucked. But luckily for you Mac cats, there are not enough users for the writers to want to write a virus for Mac. Good luck with that when someone decides they wnana bring down the Mac community.

Their performance is no better than a comparable PC and there is nothing designed for a Mac that wouldn't work on a PC. Period. So, when it comes to the price, you are in fact paying for the name, not the computing power and performance.


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Go into some real design companies and recording studios and tell them they have those macs for no reason.
Many recording studios and design companies use PCs as well. Macs are just what has been deemed "industry standard" because they were designed for multimedia purposes. That doesn't mean they have superior performance and can do things a PC cannot. If you don't believe me, I challenge you to find something a Mac does that a PC cannot. Good luck with that.
 
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LMAO.

You seem to be another cat that has fallen victim to Mac's superb marketing team. There are a few things you should know before arguing your points any further. First and foremost, there is NOTHING a Mac can do that a PC cannot. Nothing at all. Anything designed for a Mac can easily be designed for a PC. The difference is a Mac's primary use is entertainment and multimedia, while PCs were originally designed for business purposes. That being said, the reason there are viruses for PCs and not Mac is not because Macs are designed to fight them off. In fact, it's to the contrary. A Mac has NO DEFENSE against any virus because nobody has taken the time to write any. If someone decides it's worth it to them to write a virus for Mac, then Mac users are fucked. But luckily for you Mac cats, there are not enough users for the writers to want to write a virus for Mac. Good luck with that when someone decides they wnana bring down the Mac community.

Their performance is no better than a comparable PC and there is nothing designed for a Mac that wouldn't work on a PC. Period. So, when it comes to the price, you are in fact paying for the name, not the computing power and performance.




Many recording studios and design companies use PCs as well. Macs are just what has been deemed "industry standard" because they were designed for multimedia purposes. That doesn't mean they have superior performance and can do things a PC cannot. If you don't believe me, I challenge you to find something a Mac does that a PC cannot. Good luck with that.
I didn't say a Mac can do shit that a PC can't, I simply stated the purpose of the Mac, and you agreed with me even in your argument with what I was stating. Since the Mac is built for multimedia, it tends to be a lot smoother when doing things such as video editing and music production.

I haven't fallen victim to any marketing, I've used a PC and a Mac to record albums...and from that experience I came to my own conclusion that the Mac ran a lot smoother than the PC did...it's as simple as that.

About protection, do you work at Apple? I know a few people that do, in different departments, and not one of them will tell you that their products are built without any kind of protection. A virus can get to a Mac, it's happened...but it's usually taken care of before it causes any damage. So, contrary to your belief, Mac's have protection and it does its job.
 
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I just want to put extra emphasis on that quote right there. One of the biggest mistakes I see people make when they put a pc together is they go cheap on everything. That might be ok to do in some areas but the power supply for example is one thing you don't want to skimp on. I can't stress the importance of good solid clean power from the psu when it comes to a recording/media environment. Especially when you're taxing the cpu and harddrives real heavy.

Anyways, that's a whole other topic in itself.. Just wanted to really make sure the quote got pointed out.
Very true statement. Even when you're NOT building the computer, a part is a part. Fact of the matter is, there are some parts that are going to fail...if it's in a Mac or a Dell.

But definitely, when you build a computer you should go all out and get the best shit you can afford so you have something that's reliable.
 
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I didn't say a Mac can do shit that a PC can't, I simply stated the purpose of the Mac, and you agreed with me even in your argument with what I was stating. Since the Mac is built for multimedia, it tends to be a lot smoother when doing things such as video editing and music production.
I agree it is built for multimedia, but sorry, it does not tend to be a lot smoother when doing, well, anything.

Sydal said:
I haven't fallen victim to any marketing
I may have been wrong with that statement. Maybe you do use PCs and Macs and have decided, on your own, that a Mac is better than the PC. But the reason I said you seem to have fallen victim to their marketing ploys is because you pretty much said everything they say when trying to push their overpriced product. It was like I was reading their catalog all over again.


Sydal said:
I've used a PC and a Mac to record albums...and from that experience I came to my own conclusion that the Mac ran a lot smoother than the PC did...it's as simple as that.
You probably used a Mac with smoother recording applications. If you ran the same program on a PC, it would run exactly the same, if not smoother due to PCs having superior hardware available. And if you tell me the Mac and PC were running the same programs, then you were probably using a Mac that was more powerful than that particular PC you used. It's very simple. If you use a comparable PC, the Mac will not run any smoother or better than the PC. The comparable PC, however, will cost significantly less.

Point being Macs are no better than PCs, not even in the multimedia field. A PC can do anything a Mac can do with the same amount of ease.


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About protection, do you work at Apple? I know a few people that do, in different departments, and not one of them will tell you that their products are built without any kind of protection.
Nah I don't work for Apple, but I have been contracted several times to repair their networks. I am a Mac/PC technician and network tech, so I deal with issues involving Macs all the time. What I meant when I said they have no protection is they have no defense against viruses. Like I said before, the clowns that write infectious software have just never bothered to write viruses for the Mac. If they wanted to, how do you figure Mac will defend it? They don't even know what a hacker would attack. Point being Macs are far from being "more secure." That's like saying Canada has a better national defense than we do because nobody bothers to attack them. You must be attacked before you know what to do to defend yourself.

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A virus can get to a Mac, it's happened...but it's usually taken care of before it causes any damage. So, contrary to your belief, Mac's have protection and it does its job.
Care to explain which virus has infected the Mac community and been shut down by Mac's "protection?" Ask your buddies that work for Apple.. If a Mac gets wiped out by an infection, you've lost everything. Not so with a PC. Just about anything can be recovered on a PC. If someone decides to write an infection that wipes out your Mac, it's a done deal. All your music, all your contents, everything you've created is gone. There's no getting it back. You have to back up everything you do or risk losing it all.

I'm not debating my "beliefs," I'm telling you from experiences with not only using PCs and Macs, but also repairing them. Macs are an unnecessary pain in the ass whenever an issue is found. On top of that, they don't do anything a PC cannot. PCs function just as well as a Mac with comparable hardware. PCs also have the benefit of having many 3rd-party hardware manufacturers, which often provide hardware superior to anything Apple has created.

The whole point of this is just to let you know Macs are not superior to PCs in any way. If anything they can only equal the computing power of a PC, but they do not beat it. A lot of companies (including multimedia corps) are starting to turn to the PC after experiencing issues with Macs (especially network problems). A lot of network techs will refuse to touch a Mac network, and for good reason. After finding out a PC has the ability to run the same type of programs a Mac has, they make the switch.

Now, whether or not the creators of some of Apple's programs will write software for the PC is another story. Apple normally tries to get exlusive rights to the programs that make people think a Mac outperforms the PC. It is not the Mac outperforming anything, it's the software outperforming. Even then, PC software companies will get a hold of that particular piece of software and write something that does the same thing, but for the PC.
 
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there is little difference between mac and pc these days. 5-6 years ago - mac was running the multimedia game i remember i had a video class in high school and them macs used to work very smooth with video while my PC was crap as fuck. these days though its much different PC's i think are in the lead in price and in technology. At my college in the audio class we got macs and pc's next to each other and they both run the same for practically everything no viruses, no hiccups, no freezing. personally i prefer a PC because u can easily build one yourself (Which i do) upgrade it, and its relatively cheaper than mac all the way around. pc is winning right now i'd say unless you bought one with windows vista.
 
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I agree it is built for multimedia, but sorry, it does not tend to be a lot smoother when doing, well, anything.



I may have been wrong with that statement. Maybe you do use PCs and Macs and have decided, on your own, that a Mac is better than the PC. But the reason I said you seem to have fallen victim to their marketing ploys is because you pretty much said everything they say when trying to push their overpriced product. It was like I was reading their catalog all over again.




You probably used a Mac with smoother recording applications. If you ran the same program on a PC, it would run exactly the same, if not smoother due to PCs having superior hardware available. And if you tell me the Mac and PC were running the same programs, then you were probably using a Mac that was more powerful than that particular PC you used. It's very simple. If you use a comparable PC, the Mac will not run any smoother or better than the PC. The comparable PC, however, will cost significantly less.

Point being Macs are no better than PCs, not even in the multimedia field. A PC can do anything a Mac can do with the same amount of ease.




Nah I don't work for Apple, but I have been contracted several times to repair their networks. I am a Mac/PC technician and network tech, so I deal with issues involving Macs all the time. What I meant when I said they have no protection is they have no defense against viruses. Like I said before, the clowns that write infectious software have just never bothered to write viruses for the Mac. If they wanted to, how do you figure Mac will defend it? They don't even know what a hacker would attack. Point being Macs are far from being "more secure." That's like saying Canada has a better national defense than we do because nobody bothers to attack them. You must be attacked before you know what to do to defend yourself.



Care to explain which virus has infected the Mac community and been shut down by Mac's "protection?" Ask your buddies that work for Apple.. If a Mac gets wiped out by an infection, you've lost everything. Not so with a PC. Just about anything can be recovered on a PC. If someone decides to write an infection that wipes out your Mac, it's a done deal. All your music, all your contents, everything you've created is gone. There's no getting it back. You have to back up everything you do or risk losing it all.

I'm not debating my "beliefs," I'm telling you from experiences with not only using PCs and Macs, but also repairing them. Macs are an unnecessary pain in the ass whenever an issue is found. On top of that, they don't do anything a PC cannot. PCs function just as well as a Mac with comparable hardware. PCs also have the benefit of having many 3rd-party hardware manufacturers, which often provide hardware superior to anything Apple has created.

The whole point of this is just to let you know Macs are not superior to PCs in any way. If anything they can only equal the computing power of a PC, but they do not beat it. A lot of companies (including multimedia corps) are starting to turn to the PC after experiencing issues with Macs (especially network problems). A lot of network techs will refuse to touch a Mac network, and for good reason. After finding out a PC has the ability to run the same type of programs a Mac has, they make the switch.

Now, whether or not the creators of some of Apple's programs will write software for the PC is another story. Apple normally tries to get exlusive rights to the programs that make people think a Mac outperforms the PC. It is not the Mac outperforming anything, it's the software outperforming. Even then, PC software companies will get a hold of that particular piece of software and write something that does the same thing, but for the PC.
All good points. I have nothing against PC, and I know what it's like to have a Mac head coming at you because they swear up and down PC's are pieces of shit and will never amount to anything. I prefer the Mac when making music or doing something creative because I've used both and I've only had bad experiences with PC's in that area...never had a problem with the Mac. NOW, when it comes to shit like gaming, upgrading, web surfing, etc...the PC has my vote. It's definitely a lot easier and a lot smoother, from my experience, to use a PC for those things.
 
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Apple just appears to be more reliable cuz of a pc's 3rd party support for both software and hardware..... this allows for hundreds of companies to design the most superior hardware and applications for a pc but unfortunately can also bring about cheap parts and poorly written programs that are subject to failure from companies trying to make a quicc easy bucc....

But apple limits itself and forces you to have less choices in what you put into a home computer and this makes apple top dollar off its consumers who believe the hype....

And just like how no one bothers to write viruses for a mac no one really bothers to cracc software for it either or it may be more difficult i guess but no one thinks its worth the time.....so you end up paying for all software you want for your mac.....thats why you just purchased reason sydal when i got that shit and thousands of dollars worth of other music software for $0.....

so i guess if you got it like that then triccin is coo playa lol....
 

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And just like how no one bothers to write viruses for a mac no one really bothers to cracc software for it either or it may be more difficult i guess but no one thinks its worth the time.....so you end up paying for all software you want for your mac.....thats why you just purchased reason sydal when i got that shit and thousands of dollars worth of other music software for $0.....

so i guess if you got it like that then triccin is coo playa lol....
I didn't buy Reason, I got Reason Adapted with my Pro-Tools package...along with a shit load of other programs. My main program is Logic Pro, which I didn't come out of pocket for because I have connects at Apple. The only shit I buy is hardware, shit that can't be obtained by downloading.