Fuck talkin about the bay, talk this whole damn rap game. Rap to me right now is WEAK AS FUCK. Just my opinion, everyone is a thug, a gangster, pushes major kilos, kills whoever talks shit, puts bitches on the track, got 20s on an SUV, etc.... This shit is so damn boring. The beats make me listen to a track for a minute, then after I hear the shit for a while its through. Cats need to be original. This whole post about the bay bein studio gangstas??!! What about Los Angeles and New York? Dr. Dre would get DDT'd by his wife in front of his whole crew and wouldn't do shit. Fabolous can't even hold a gun, that shits too heavy. The ones that go 5x platinum and own all kinds of shit are the ones givin out the most wolf tickets. I would say that SF has probably less studio gangstas than any other big city. The turf wars, the pimpin on O'Farrell, the HP killings, cats gettin popped, huge drug pushers: all that shit you hear everyone rappin about is in the news in SF on a regular basis. I listen to SF/bay rap because I take pride in my unrecognized part of the world (which I think has the realest out there) and it gets no respect. Let a NYC cat wander to the point or slap the wrong whore on the strip, and the bay rap verses will become literal. I really don't even give a fuck what a bakersfield friend of yours has to say, because I heard enough gay jokes and seen how bay rap is almost unheard of. I actually think people don't sign bay artists because of the homosexual cloud over us. Who on the east would believe people do thuggish things out here in the "Castro"? Fuck bein studio gangstas and be more creative. This is the main reason why I think San Quinn is so fuckin sick. He doesn't rap about the same shit, he gets straight to the point, and is just so damn skillful I can't imagine him not doin the getlow on TRL one day. Sorry this one is so long but I takes pride in the bay and yeah we got some phony ass studio gangstas. But those are the cats I try my best to weed out. DONT RAP ABOUT SHIT YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT. East west north or south.