SO ACCORDING TO EDJ'S THEORY, MOS DEF IS AN UNCLE TOM.......

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Apr 25, 2002
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BECAUSE IS WHOLE ALBUM IS FULL OF ROCK AND ROLL, WHICH IS STEREOTYPICALLY WHITE PEOPLE MUSIC........AND I BELIEVE ASKIN EDJ IF BLACK PEOPLE LISTENED TO ROCK AND ROLL, WOULD THEY BE CONSIDERED UNCLE TOMS...AND I BELIEVE HIS RESPONSE WAS YES.....IMA DIG THAT THREAD UP RIGHT NOW
 
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EDJ said:
gREEDYgREg209,
YOU STRESSED, "so if a black person listens to any other kinda music than rap, he is considered an uncle tom then?...."

IT ALL DEPENDS, BUT IN gENERAL HE WOULD BE PERCEIVED AS TO WHAT TYPE OF MUSIC AND SOCIAL gROUP HE TRYIN' TO FIT IN. BUT RAP AIN'T THE ONLY PRE-DOMINANT BLAK CULTURED TYPE OF MUSIC. A LOT OF OLDER BLAK FOLK DON'T EVEN FUK WITH IT. SOME EVEN gROW OUT OF IT(SO THEY CLAIM), CAUSE THEY VIEW IT AS CHILDISH.

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WELL I GUESS ITS NOT 100% WHAT HES SAYIN, BUT PRETTY CLOSE.........HES "HAF STEPPIN" BECASUE HE AINT SPITTIN GANGSTA SHIT, AND ONLY WHITE PEOPLE CAN LISTEN TO ROCK AND ROLL
 
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^^^^but what does that prove? Because its mainly a white thing it still cant be black??? need you forget one of the best guitarists ever was black, and alotta hardcore rock bands got a black singer or drummer, its still around...
 
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FUCK EDJ, FUCK MOS DEF, FUCK THIS PROBLACK BULLSHIT...

seriously the only reason racisim doesn't fade away is because people stay isolated on the issue...

The only thing that EDJ stated was that he is a lame with nothing better to do then stereo type people...

He may brag about how he pushes zips is gangsta as fuck...but reality is in todays socitey who gives a shit...being a gangsta isn't what it was in the 1930's when it had an actual effect on socitey other then population control...

& TO SPEAK ON & BE HONEST...BLACK GANGS ARE COMPLETE BULLSHIT...CRIPS & BLOODS NETWORK...LOOK AT THAT LUNI & DAMU BANNER...LORDS & GDS NETWORK...LOOK AT RAPALOT RECORDS...LOOK AT TWISTA & DO OR DIE...LOOK AT THE PEN...BLACKS UNITE...DO MEXICAN GANGS UNITE IN THE PEN??? FUCK NO, YOU WON'T EVER SEE SOME SUR-NORTE ON THE SAME SIDE SHIT EVEN IN THE PEN!!!

SO BEING A BLACK GANGSTA NOW IS LIKE JOINING AN AFTER SCHOOL CLUB
 
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Camby Savelle said:
He may brag about how he pushes zips is gangsta as fuck...but reality is in todays socitey who gives a shit...being a gangsta isn't what it was in the 1930's when it had an actual effect on socitey other then population control...
Yea true, nobody sang about bein a gangsta in the 30's, when it was mostly upper class respected people who ran the WHOLE city. so why do they brag about pushin a few zips and holdin down a block?
 
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Camby Savelle said:
FUCK EDJ, FUCK MOS DEF, FUCK THIS PROBLACK BULLSHIT...

seriously the only reason racisim doesn't fade away is because people stay isolated on the issue...

The only thing that EDJ stated was that he is a lame with nothing better to do then stereo type people...

He may brag about how he pushes zips is gangsta as fuck...but reality is in todays socitey who gives a shit...being a gangsta isn't what it was in the 1930's when it had an actual effect on socitey other then population control...

& TO SPEAK ON & BE HONEST...BLACK GANGS ARE COMPLETE BULLSHIT...CRIPS & BLOODS NETWORK...LOOK AT THAT LUNI & DAMU BANNER...LORDS & GDS NETWORK...LOOK AT RAPALOT RECORDS...LOOK AT TWISTA & DO OR DIE...LOOK AT THE PEN...BLACKS UNITE...DO MEXICAN GANGS UNITE IN THE PEN??? FUCK NO, YOU WON'T EVER SEE SOME SUR-NORTE ON THE SAME SIDE SHIT EVEN IN THE PEN!!!

SO BEING A BLACK GANGSTA NOW IS LIKE JOINING AN AFTER SCHOOL CLUB
Aren't you the hypocrite that listens to BG Evil: A Norteno rapper? Thanks for supporting him ese.
 

Mac Jesus

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Mos Def - rock n roll.

I said, Elvis Presley ain't got no soul (huh)
Chuck Berry is rock and roll (damn right)
You may dig on the Rolling Stones
But they ain't come up with that style on they own (uh-uh)
Elvis Presley ain't got no SOULLLL (hell naw)
Little Richard is rock and roll (damn right)
You may dig on the Rolling Stones
But they ain't come up with that shit on they own (nah-ah)

Guess that's just the way shit goes
You steal my clothes and try to say they yo's (yes they do)
Cause it's a show filled with pimps and hoes
Tryin to take everything that you made or control (there they go)
Elvis Presley ain't got no SOULLLL
Bo Diddley is rock and roll (damn right)
You may dig on the Rolling Stones
But they ain't the first place the credit belongs
Who cares.
 
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What's the point in trying to copyright a lifestyle? Rock'n'Roll ain't "black" music, thats pure idiocy. It is just as much white and it is black, just as football, poetry, hip-hop, driving, etc etc. Who the fuck cares? By playing this ownership game your doing the same as those who "stole" the genre. Shit reminds me of that old ass presidential candidate who claims he created the internet.. Hahaha.

Mac Jesus and 2-0-Sixx are the only ones with their eyes open.
 
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That's funny. Elvis stole Rock & Roll music?? How does ONE MAN steal an entire art form?

What about Ritchie Valens? He wasn't black, he was Mexican, yet he made a profit from Rock & Roll. What about Jackie Wilson? He was black, and he was huge in the 50's too. So did Elvis take attention from everybody else? Elvis was HARDLY rock & roll in the first place, dude was more like COUNTRY with a rock-ish twist.

I love the double standard though, Elvis stole Rock, Eminem stole Rap...but Basketball is for EVERYBODY...get a fuckin grip folks. Everything here is for everybody, fuck that anti (insert race here) shit.
 
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Sydal said:
That's funny. Elvis stole Rock & Roll music?? How does ONE MAN steal an entire art form?
By taking songs that he did not write, from people struggling in jook-joints, and making millions.

What about Ritchie Valens? He wasn't black, he was Mexican, yet he made a profit from Rock & Roll. What about Jackie Wilson? He was black, and he was huge in the 50's too. So did Elvis take attention from everybody else?
Valens and Wilson wrote their music.

I love the double standard though, Elvis stole Rock, Eminem stole Rap...but Basketball is for EVERYBODY...get a fuckin grip folks. Everything here is for everybody, fuck that anti (insert race here) shit.
Let's put shit into perspective here...when was segragation ended? When was the last year that blacks weren't allowed into certain night clubs? You wanna talk about basketball? When was the first black player allowed to play? Maybe Rock & Roll has been around for ever, and was first played by a Chinese man...whatever...I'm not speaking to "ownership" as Nitro put it...I'm simply stating a fact that Elvis took music that was not his, that was already being listened to in black clubs, and he proffited from it by bringing it to the white masses...I misstated by saying "Rock and Roll is black music.." I should have said "was."...Now, we can sing kumbye-fucking-ya if it'll make you feel better...
 

HERESY

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Some people consider elvis music as rock in roll. I don't. When people say rock&roll I think of metal. Heres a very informative site (since most of you like to read)


http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Race_music


I myself am an advocate of metal/rap combos and often incorperate it in my music. I see no problems of doing such a thing. Will you catch me listening to A perfect circle, tool, metallica or velvet revolver 24-7? Nope. Only when I catch it on the radio or I need a REFERENCE CD.


I also agree with the being "gangsta" comment. To me gangsters own large corps, have large private planes, their money makes money for them, they have judges and the law on the pay roll etc etc etc.


Who's the sellout? The rapper who raps about constantly pushing kilo's of bleem to his own people? The rapper who takes on the name of italion dons and crime bossess? Or is it the rapper who says this music was stolen by such and such? The rapper who uses metal?


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