if you can find it, get the Kicker classic Solo-Baric (the round one's, not the square one's) the pair i had, didn't have that web lookin feel to it. it was all cone. them shit's bumped hella hard. the weather was so hot, it burned the coil in one of the speakers. i didn't even want to fuck around with that, so got rid of that set and moved on to my next box of Digital Audio's.