SIMPLE POLL: Are you Liberal? Are you Conservative? Or are you an Independent
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lol@get with the times! What are you saying? We should allow korporate bullies to push us around and control our lives? Get real man...
Nader and Dennis Kucinich are against corporate dominance and big business. The Socialist parities around the world are against big business, along with many other groups/organizations.
Listen, you're against Bush right? Ask yourself why you are against bush...once you have you come to your conclusions you will understand why I am against Kerry and why I do not support the 'lesser of Evilism' philosophy. If you still do not understand, please do not hesitate to ask any questions.
Nader and Dennis Kucinich are against corporate dominance and big business. The Socialist parities around the world are against big business, along with many other groups/organizations.
Listen, you're against Bush right? Ask yourself why you are against bush...once you have you come to your conclusions you will understand why I am against Kerry and why I do not support the 'lesser of Evilism' philosophy. If you still do not understand, please do not hesitate to ask any questions.
Corporate bullies and major corporations will always control some subtle aspects in our lives. They have the money to really do what the fuck they want to do. You think political candidates live off our small $50-$100 donations??? Fuck no they go after the people who work for major corporations to help finance their campaigns. I don’t see major corporations stopping this any time soon either, not in my lifetime at least.
Nader and Kucinich WOW those are some huge name drops!!! Nader and Kucinich won’t be doing anything come NOV 2.
I don't feel like typing a three page report on the reason I don't like Pres Bush.
I didn't ask you to type anything, I asked you to THINK.
Yes, corporate bullies will always control us as long as americans have a mentality like you, "Oh, that's the way it is, that's the way it always will be", "what can I do?" etc.
If only people would realize that the working class DOES have the power and if we work together we CAN change things. Read about history, read about the French Revolution in 1968 when tens of MILLIONS of people went on strike for over two months and demanded change and received change. Read about how the working class demanded change in Spain and Italy and various other European countries.
Why do you think we have 40-hour working weeks? Why do you think we have certain working benefits and laws to protect us? It’s not because the democrats or republicans gave it to us, it’s because of the massive strikes and protests that have occurred throughout our history that forced them to give it us. These are the reasons change was made.
Yes, corporate bullies will always control us as long as americans have a mentality like you, "Oh, that's the way it is, that's the way it always will be", "what can I do?" etc.
If only people would realize that the working class DOES have the power and if we work together we CAN change things. Read about history, read about the French Revolution in 1968 when tens of MILLIONS of people went on strike for over two months and demanded change and received change. Read about how the working class demanded change in Spain and Italy and various other European countries.
Why do you think we have 40-hour working weeks? Why do you think we have certain working benefits and laws to protect us? It’s not because the democrats or republicans gave it to us, it’s because of the massive strikes and protests that have occurred throughout our history that forced them to give it us. These are the reasons change was made.
I do think a major revolution will happen on this subject in America, just not in my lifetime.
Please don't lecture me on strikes; I live in the Air Capital of the World my dad use to work for Boeing Aircraft Company before he got laid off last year after 25 loyal years of work.
I have been through 3 strikes in my lifetime where I walked the lines in the dead of winter for 6 hours a day, I use to puncture the tires and break windows of scabs that crossed the line.
My conclusion no matter how hard you try to bring these powerful corporations down it won't work; they will just contract their work elsewhere in the world (Italy, China, Japan).
I do applaud these other countries in the world that have achieved their goal. But in general I think Americans are to lazy, conceited, and dependent to change any of these policies, they would rather just go to work for these companies to feed their families (understandable) instead of looking at the big picture.
Please don't lecture me on strikes; I live in the Air Capital of the World my dad use to work for Boeing Aircraft Company before he got laid off last year after 25 loyal years of work.
I have been through 3 strikes in my lifetime where I walked the lines in the dead of winter for 6 hours a day, I use to puncture the tires and break windows of scabs that crossed the line.
My conclusion no matter how hard you try to bring these powerful corporations down it won't work; they will just contract their work elsewhere in the world (Italy, China, Japan).
I do applaud these other countries in the world that have achieved their goal. But in general I think Americans are to lazy, conceited, and dependent to change any of these policies, they would rather just go to work for these companies to feed their families (understandable) instead of looking at the big picture.
Thanks for sharing about the strike history in your family. This tells me you obtain some knowledge of what the working class can achieve. Even though these are miniature in comparison to previous strikes in our own country and others as well, it still provides a valuable lesson.
Many people have the same mentality as you: "Yes, a revolution will occur...just not in my lifetime"
It was only 30 years ago in our own country when, believe it or not, amerika was on the brink of revolution. People don't understand just how close we really were to radical transformation. There were literally thousands of left wing groups and organizations that worked together: the anti-war movement, the civil rights movement, the Black Panthers, the Gay and Lesbian movement, the woman’s movement, the Labor movement etc. etc. etc. The list went on and on. There were hundreds of strikes across the country as well as thousands of protests. Why do you think the government had operations such as COINTELPRO? Because they saw what was happening and they feared the movement. As in the case with all Capitalist societies, violence is the last resort in protecting the capital.
And if you think times are much different now you’re absolutely wrong. There is turmoil amongst the working class, a huge anti-war movement, a huge gay and lesbian movement etc. etc. etc.
What's going to happen if Kerry wins the election? At first, there will be a false impression that things are better, but it's not going to be like Clinton because Clinton never had an Iraq or a war on terrorism. Kerry is going to have to make tough, very unpopular decisions right off the bat and the people are going to see that the Democratic Party lied just like the Bush Admin lied. The anti-war movement will continue as well as the other movements.
There hasn’t been this much unrest in america since 60's and 70's.
Many people have the same mentality as you: "Yes, a revolution will occur...just not in my lifetime"
It was only 30 years ago in our own country when, believe it or not, amerika was on the brink of revolution. People don't understand just how close we really were to radical transformation. There were literally thousands of left wing groups and organizations that worked together: the anti-war movement, the civil rights movement, the Black Panthers, the Gay and Lesbian movement, the woman’s movement, the Labor movement etc. etc. etc. The list went on and on. There were hundreds of strikes across the country as well as thousands of protests. Why do you think the government had operations such as COINTELPRO? Because they saw what was happening and they feared the movement. As in the case with all Capitalist societies, violence is the last resort in protecting the capital.
And if you think times are much different now you’re absolutely wrong. There is turmoil amongst the working class, a huge anti-war movement, a huge gay and lesbian movement etc. etc. etc.
What's going to happen if Kerry wins the election? At first, there will be a false impression that things are better, but it's not going to be like Clinton because Clinton never had an Iraq or a war on terrorism. Kerry is going to have to make tough, very unpopular decisions right off the bat and the people are going to see that the Democratic Party lied just like the Bush Admin lied. The anti-war movement will continue as well as the other movements.
There hasn’t been this much unrest in america since 60's and 70's.