Should the Chiefs consider trading Larry Johnson?

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Consider trading him
JASON WHITLOCK
The Kansas City Star

No one asked me, but just in case Carl Peterson and Clark Hunt would like to know where I stand: I’d consider trading Larry Johnson rather than handing him a lucrative contract extension.

Seriously. Oh, I respect what Larry Johnson has accomplished the last two years, back-to-back 1,700-yard seasons, consecutive Pro Bowl appearances and 37 touchdowns.

Larry is owed big money. He’s earned it. You could make a pretty strong argument he’s the NFL’s second-best running back after LaDainian Tomlinson.

I just wouldn’t be in a rush to be the general manager or owner who gave L.T.-type money to L.J. And I sure as heck wouldn’t want to be the coach forced to deal with L.J.’s T.O.-like behavior, especially after that behavior gets protected with close to $20 million in guaranteed bonuses.

The Chiefs have a big decision to make this offseason, and there’s no reason we should act as if reworking Larry’s contract way north is a no-brainer. It’s not.

Larry is far from the most popular player in the Chiefs’ locker room with the players. He’s aloof, moody and constantly distracted by his desire to be misunderstood and to be a member of Jay-Z’s posse.

“If they give him a huge contract, they’ll create a monster,” one Chiefs player told me this offseason. “And I told Herm that.”

Johnson, according to another teammate, can be a disruptive force in locker-room chemistry. The team’s most valuable and important player, according to a teammate, oftentimes sits in meetings text messaging friends and associates.

We all know Larry loves to make headlines with tell-all interviews. He went on HBO this season and claimed that it was easier for him to play for a black head coach because Herm Edwards knows what it’s like to, among other things, go to nightclubs in the ’hood.

Larry also finds it easier, I assume, to question the offensive strategy of a black head coach who bends over backward trying to satisfy the ego of his star running back, because L.J. had little trouble throwing Edwards and the coaching staff under the bus after Kansas City’s playoff loss.

Three years ago, when the Chargers made Tomlinson the richest running back in the history of the league with a $60 million contract and $20 million in guaranteed bonuses, here’s what the Chargers’ team president was quoted saying about L.T.:

“LaDainian represents everything you want from a player. He is our role model. Every young player should aspire to be like L.T., the way he carries himself on and off the field. He has demonstrated he can do and will do what it takes to be a winner and to be the best.”

Could Carl Peterson say that about L.J. with a straight face?

No way. (FYI: I attempted to contact Peterson and Edwards on Wednesday. They were both legitimately unavailable. Peterson, I was told, was out of town. Edwards, I was told, spent most of Wednesday in meetings with the scouting department.)

But the reasons to consider trading L.J. go deeper than just the quirks in his personality, deeper than the possibility that he might be the next T.O. or Randy Moss.

Johnson carried the ball an NFL-record 416 times last year. In the history of the league, nine running backs have accumulated 390-plus carries in a season. Only one, Eric Dickerson, continued to ascend after toting the rock that many times. Everyone else faded quickly.

Is L.J. the next Eric Dickerson, a terrific player and locker-room cancer with the Rams, Colts, Raiders and Falcons?

Or is L.J. the next Eddie George, Jamal Anderson, Terrell Davis or James Wilder?

The one thing I really respect about Johnson is his brutal honesty. He doesn’t hide who he wants to be. As soon as the season was over, he high-tailed it to New York to get to work on whatever it is he wants to do with rapper Jay-Z.

I mean, really, there were two certainties when this season ended: Tiki Barber would begin his career as a broadcaster, and Larry Johnson would be in New York working on his street cred and Roc-A-Fella hand signals.

In pursuit of a new contract, some athletes wouldn’t be nearly as truthful as L.J. They would sneak off to New York while telling everyone about their elaborate plans to rest up and begin a new training regime with their own specialist, Bay Bay McWorkout. They might even invite a television crew to tape them while they push a mobile home on a giant treadmill.

L.J. is going to skip the publicity tour. He believes he has all the leverage he needs. Tony Gonzalez will be 31 in a couple of weeks. Trent Green is still woozy. Dante Hall has fallen and can’t get up. Jared Allen is headed to jail.

L.J. is Kansas City’s lone, unblemished, in-his-prime star. Herm Edwards’ whole plan of attack falls apart without a punishing running back.

The Chiefs have to pay Larry Johnson.

No they don’t. Not if another team is willing to offer something resembling fair value (a top-12 draft pick and a defensive starter or wide receiver). You can find and develop young running backs quickly.

Finding, developing and maintaining a Super Bowl-level chemistry is a lot more elusive, especially when you have a potential T.O. or Randy Moss in your locker room.

I’m not saying the Chiefs should trade Larry Johnson. I’m saying they should consider doing it.
 
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I must say.....trade him..
as much as I hate saying it...i believe we should.

But

The chiefs never will...why? Because Carl Peteson is a fucking idiot...
and everyone knows it.

He'll give him all the cash he wants and let him ruin the great locker room we have had for the last 3-4 seasons.

I say trade him for a nice reciever ...and a top 8 ...1st rounder.

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Arson

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Balut said:
Raiders need a RB and Chiefs need some WRs. Porter and Moss for LJ...done deal :cool:
worst idea ever..... lj would be worthless behind the raiders terrible line, is coming of a huge number of carrys, and ready for a injury, moss and porter would torch you guys twice a year.
 
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Balut said:
Raiders need a RB and Chiefs need some WRs. Porter and Moss for LJ...done deal :cool:

Raiders would be lucky to get 2 3rd rounders for them 2 much less a player of lj's calibur!

While he is a disruption and maybe someteammates don't like him, he is the reason they made the playoffs. You take LJ off that team they had last year and the injuries...they would be lucky to reach .500
 
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Just like I said...this guy is the next Eddie George. You can't run a man this much and expect him to perform at that level for longer than a few short lived years.

Didn't know about his off the field antics. Thats just more of a reason to let his ass go.
 
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I THINK WHOEVER WROTE THIS ARTICLE IS PUTTIN A LITTLE TOO MUCH ON LARRY JOHNSON'S DEMEANOR.. HE AINT THAT BAD.. THIS GUY WHO WROTE THIS SOUNDS LIKE A LIGHT-WEIGHT REDNECK. LJ IS THE #2 RB IN THE LEAGUE.. HIS PROS STILL OUTWEIGH HIS CONS.
 

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KC-KILLA-CITY said:
i personally think tht priest holmes was better then Lj but thts me i want them to put preist in but i kno hes getting old
yup...priest holmes was a better receiver out of the backfield than larry johnson is.

but larry johnson loves contact, and is a power back. he's not really shifty as priest holmes, but more of a north-south tyoe back. still, on any given sunday, i would hate to be a linebacker trying to tackle this guy.
 
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Whats the deal wit Priest Holmes? Has he been cleard to play again? I seen him rollin through town when I was in SA a few months back. My boy said he heard his injury was too serious so he stayin back in Texas. But I never heard anything official about him leavin the game.
 
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Solitary 1 said:
THIS GUY WHO WROTE THIS SOUNDS LIKE A LIGHT-WEIGHT REDNECK.
Why would you say that? Cause he doesn't like his attitude?

Maybe it would surprise you then that he's a black guy. He's been on PTI and the other ESPN shows numerous times.
 
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gimpypimp said:
Why would you say that? Cause he doesn't like his attitude?

Maybe it would surprise you then that he's a black guy. He's been on PTI and the other ESPN shows numerous times.
I WAS HOPING IT WAS.. BECAUSE IF A WHITE DUDE WROTE THAT ARTICLE IT MIGHT BE OFFENSIVE TO SOME.. EITHER WAY HE'S A TOTAL SQUARE.. BRYANT GUMBEL
 
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Solitary 1 said:
I THINK WHOEVER WROTE THIS ARTICLE IS PUTTIN A LITTLE TOO MUCH ON LARRY JOHNSON'S DEMEANOR.. HE AINT THAT BAD..
And you know this because....?

The guy works for the Kansas City Star. I'm sure he knows more about Larry Johnson than you do. I mean shit, I didn't even know he had an attitude problem. KC is far away from the Bay, so we don't get news like this around here. So unless you've been doing some serious research on LJ, I highly doubt you know more than someone who covers the Chiefs..


Solitary 1 said:
LJ IS THE #2 RB IN THE LEAGUE.. HIS PROS STILL OUTWEIGH HIS CONS.
Personally, I think Frank Gore is better than LJ. I know you will dismiss that because I am a 49er fan, but as a runner and receiver, Frank Gore is better than LJ. Johnson had less than 100 rushing yards more than Frank Gore, while carrying the ball 104 more times. Had Frank carried 416 times like LJ, he would have had, according to his average, 2,256 yards.

LJ only averaged 4.3 yards per carry. Most top flight RBs average at or around 5 yards per carry.

My list:
1. LaDainian Tomlinson
2. Frank Gore
3. Larry Johnson
 
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Solitary 1 said:
I WAS HOPING IT WAS.. BECAUSE IF A WHITE DUDE WROTE THAT ARTICLE IT MIGHT BE OFFENSIVE TO SOME.. EITHER WAY HE'S A TOTAL SQUARE.. BRYANT GUMBEL
Have you even seen this guy? Or heard him speak? He's FAR from a Bryant Gumble.

You even had a Chiefs fan in this thread agree about his attitude.
 
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FATAL NYGHTMARE said:
And you know this because....?

The guy works for the Kansas City Star. I'm sure he knows more about Larry Johnson than you do. I mean shit, I didn't even know he had an attitude problem. KC is far away from the Bay, so we don't get news like this around here. So unless you've been doing some serious research on LJ, I highly doubt you know more than someone who covers the Chiefs..



Personally, I think Frank Gore is better than LJ. I know you will dismiss that because I am a 49er fan, but as a runner and receiver, Frank Gore is better than LJ. Johnson had less than 100 rushing yards more than Frank Gore, while carrying the ball 104 more times. Had Frank carried 416 times like LJ, he would have had, according to his average, 2,256 yards.

LJ only averaged 4.3 yards per carry. Most top flight RBs average at or around 5 yards per carry.

My list:
1. LaDainian Tomlinson
2. Frank Gore
3. Larry Johnson

AS FAR AS HIS ATTITUDE GOES.. I'M SURE THE WRITER KNOWS HIS ATTITUDE BETTER THAN ME.. DOES THAT CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE WAS PROBABLY EXAGERATING HOW BAD IT IS? NO.

WE SHALL SOON SEE ABOUT FRANK GORE AND IF HE REALLY IS BETTER THAN LARRY JOHNSON. NORV IS GONE. HE WILL HAVE A CONSIDERABLY HARDER TIME PUTTING UP NUMBERS LIKE HE DID LAST SEASON UNLESS THEY BRING IN AN OC ON PAR WITH NORV OR BETTER. NOT SAYING GORE ISN'T A GREAT BACK.. IT JUST IT WHAT IS.

AND GORE AS THE #2 BACK IN THE WHOLE LEAGUE?? LOL.. THAT'S A LITTLE OVERSTATED DON'T YOU THINK? I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'RE A FAN AND ALL BUT GIVE DUDE ANOTHER YEAR TO PROVE HIMSELF..