Should Kiffin be fired?

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Check game... I don't blame yesterday's loss on Kiffin but this sports writer agreed with what I was saying for a while now:

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/articl...id_reason_to_fire_Kiffin__Really_bad_coaching

Davis has solid reason to fire Kiffin: Really bad coaching


Published: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 7:05 p.m.
Last Modified: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 7:07 p.m.

You know the prevailing theory. Al Davis wants to make a case against his coach, Lane Kiffin. Davis wants to fire Kiffin for not properly representing the Silver and Black, for not being loyal. Davis wants to fire Kiffin for cause — and without pay — because Kiffin repeatedly has shot off his mouth, putting down Davis and assorted other Raiders executives and coaches.

I think Davis has it all wrong. He doesn’t need to assemble a case based on disloyal remarks or sly remarks or smart-aleck remarks. Davis could fire Kiffin for another cause, a better cause. Davis could fire Kiffin for his bad coaching, pure and simple.

Davis conceivably could convince an arbitrator that Kiffin is not a coach, never was. He is a man impersonating a coach, playing the part of a coach — not playing the part in a convincing manner. He’s what you call a bad actor. On that basis, the arbitrator might deny all future salary to Kiffin.

My issue with Davis and this whole prolonged, agonizing, God-when-will-it-ever-end firing process is not that Davis is wrong to fire Kiffin. It’s a question of Davis’ manners, which are bad and sadistic and a distraction from the one and only goal of a sports team — winning. This firing process is a terrible drag on the Raiders.

But Davis has every right to fire Kiffin on the facts, damning in themselves — and if Davis can do it without paying his coach a nickel, that’s between them.

The facts are these: Two weeks in a row, the Raiders went into the fourth quarter with a lead and two weeks in a row they couldn’t hold the lead, fell apart, gave up the game in a flash.

In the first horrendous loss, the Bills moved at will in the fourth quarter. In Sunday’s horrendous loss, the Raiders’ offense was missing in action in the fourth quarter and was pretty wretched in the third quarter, too, as the Chargers went about scoring 25 points in the second half.

Sure, you partly could blame this loss on the blowhard defensive coordinator, Rob Ryan. Blame away as far as I’m concerned. The Raiders’ defense is no big deal when it needs to be.

But, honestly, the defense needed some help from the offense, needed the offense to make plays and score points and give it a breather. Although Kiffin is supposed to be an offensive whiz, he isn’t. Not really. Not when it matters.

If Davis fires Kiffin this morning or tonight or in the middle of the night or any time Tuesday or sometime during the Bye Week, no one in his/her right mind could say Davis was harsh or made a mistake or didn’t give the kid a chance. A fair-minded observer, an observer in a normal state of mind, would say, “You have every right, Al.”

Kiffin deserves to get the ax and should get it on the merits — or demerits — alone. He hasn’t taught his team how to hold a lead or even believe it deserves a lead. He hasn’t taught the Raiders how to win.
Don’t be sentimental about him because he’s young and apparently has been abused by the owner. Be realistic. The Raiders are going nowhere with Kiffin, which means he has to go. You could say all of this is Davis’ fault – he hired Kiffin when Kiffin didn’t deserve a head coaching gig and after that he made Kiffin’s life miserable. Sure, but that doesn’t mean Kiffin has coached well. If you want to define Kiffin, you define him as a fourth-quarter loser. That is his M.O. and that is his identity.

Naturally, Kiffin doesn’t see things this way. After the game, he met the press — I thought his voice shook just a little and he didn’t seem as cocky as he’s seemed after other crummy defeats. Here are some humdinger pearls of wisdom from him:

“There were some really good things to build off in this game.”

There were? That sounds like a particularly desperate thing for a desperate coach to say because, face it, the bad outweighed the good. And, anyway, Kiffin won’t be around much longer to do anything in the building department.

“I think this team is as good as anyone in the league. We very easily could be 4-0.”

Baloney. Ridiculous. Lots of teams are better than the Raiders and, no, the Raiders couldn’t be 4-0, although with some luck they very easily could be 0-4.

Toward the end of Kiffin’s news conference someone asked, “Do you expect to be the coach when the team goes to New Orleans.”

To which Kiffin replied, “It’s not my call. I don’t know what to expect.”

The team goes to New Orleans in two weeks — the Raiders have a bye in between. Don’t bet the mortgage, such as it is, on Kiffin making the trip or frolicking in the French Quarter.

How can Davis afford NOT to fire him between now and then?

For more on the world of sports in general and the Bay Area in particular go to the Cohn Zohn at cohn.pressdemocrat.com. You can reach Staff Columnist Lowell Cohn at 521-5486
This guy said the same thing about Norv Turner when he was the head coach...while Turner isn't the best head coach in the world he can still win games with a talented roster and freedom to actually coach the team, something he didn't have in Oakland. I think the same goes for Kiffin, he may not be the best coach out there but give him a little more freedom and fill some of the holes on offense and I believe he can be more successful. I hardly ever agree with anything Lowell Cohn has to say.
 
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I think they should bench russell ...I know he needs time, but he can learn on the bench and at practice..Its the NFL playtimes over if he needs his hand held he can do that from the bench. he can throw but he cant react well to any kind of pressure...I almost think he might be a bust.
 
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I guess it's official fellaz.... he's a goner. I am way ahead of my time...
???

Want to talk about being ahead of times?

I predict next coach is gone by next seasons end!!

How's that

That's notbeing ahead of times thats just knowing how bad the raiders are run from the top!
 

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LOL... come on man anyone could guess that... We'll have to see what happens. This is crazy but it had to be done. He should have let Lane go after last year but let's see what happens.
 
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Sources: Raiders finally fire Kiffin, consider promoting assistants
By Chris Mortensen
ESPN.com

The inevitable became reality Tuesday when Lane Kiffin was fired by Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis without pay via the telephone, according to team sources.

Tom Cable, the team's offensive line coach, was emerging as the leading candidate to replace Kiffin, a source said. Cable was among three coaches interviewed by Davis on Monday night; the others were offensive coordinator Greg Knapp and special consultant Paul Hackett.

Davis is expected to have a press conference later Tuesday to explain his decision to dismiss Kiffin.

Unlike the St. Louis Rams, who fired coach Scott Linehan on Monday, the news was not delivered by Davis in a face-to-face meeting. Kiffin was notified by a team executive Tuesday morning that Davis would call him at 9:15 a.m. PT to relieve the coach of his duties. The call came shortly after that time.

Linehan also was allowed to speak briefly with his players on Monday. Kiffin will not be afforded the same opportunity, a source said.

The news did not blindside Kiffin, who was informed by a team executive that he would be fired after the Raiders 24-23 loss to the Buffalo Bills in week three. Even though Davis didn't act a week ago, as Kiffin was told, many team insiders expected the Oakland owner to fire the coach during this bye week.

The Raiders are 1-3, having blown leads in the fourth quarter to the Bills and the San Diego Chargers. During Kiffin's 20-game tenure, in which the team was 5-15, the Raiders took leads into the fourth quarter of 11 games.

Davis hired Kiffin, who was USC's offensive coordinator at the time, as the NFL's youngest coach at 31 years old in February 2007. Even though many observers questioned the hiring, Kiffin ultimately gained respect around the league for fielding a significantly more competitive team than the Raiders had displayed before he was hired.

Despite being competitive in the majority of games, Kiffin and Davis had a falling out on several fronts, starting when Davis believed Kiffin expressed private interest in the head coaching position at the University of Arkansas during the 2007 season.

However, it was well-documented that their relationship disintegrated when Kiffin attempted to fire defensive coordinator Rob Ryan after the 2007 season. A source said Kiffin suggested to Davis that the owner had reneged on an agreement that the coach would have control over his own staff. Shortly thereafter, Davis sent a letter of resignation for Kiffin to sign, sources said. Kiffin declined.

Kiffin also opposed some of Davis' big free-agent signings such as wide receiver Javon Walker and, to a lesser degree, cornerback DeAngelo Hall, sources said. Kiffin also expressed public frustration that the team was not more aggressive in claiming other team's released players via the waiver process to strengthen the bottom of the roster.

However, a Raiders source said that Davis privately sent a letter to Kiffin after the season's opening-game loss to the Broncos, attempting to "document" that the coach approved of the offseason acquisitions. A source close to Kiffin described that claim as "fiction."

Chris Mortensen is senior NFL analyst for ESPN.
 
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I guess it's official fellaz.... he's a goner. I am way ahead of my time...
LOL...I guess I am too.

I originally predicted a 7-9 record this season but now Im leaning more towards 6-10 with the Javon Walker situation and the O-line defiencies in camp. Injuries will happen and the team has no depth on the OL, DL and at WR. Look for more bad pass blocking, penalties, poor run defense and alot of blame to go on Kiffin once again for a team that lacks talent on both sides of the LINE.